Cops using STI's?
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drftk|d
05-25-2005, 01:05 AM
dampachi
05-25-2005, 01:13 AM
viet_boiiiii
05-25-2005, 01:13 AM
dampachi
05-25-2005, 01:14 AM
:uhh: Not fixed.
viet_boiiiii
05-25-2005, 01:15 AM
Lmao if the US had STi's as cop cars noone would wanna race anymore because they'd now they would be caught in an instant. i guess me and dampachi cant fix the image haah.
drewh4386
05-25-2005, 01:19 AM
Ok Brian Spilner
drftk|d
05-25-2005, 01:19 AM
Damnit sorry about the pic problem, if you guys want more I probably got a few more of this specific car.
CassiesMan
05-25-2005, 01:29 AM
I can see it in the first post just fine. Hey, whatever gets the job done...
youngvr4
05-25-2005, 01:50 AM
they should stick to camaro's and mustangs, they have better top end speed, sti's arent your typical highway monsters
drewh4386
05-25-2005, 01:55 AM
they should stick to camaro's and mustangs, they have better top end speed, sti's arent your typical highway monsters
They would, but they can catch ricers in sti's. Camaro's and mustangs would be over over kills.
They would, but they can catch ricers in sti's. Camaro's and mustangs would be over over kills.
97Tsi
05-25-2005, 01:57 AM
they should stick to camaro's and mustangs, they have better top end speed, sti's arent your typical highway monsters
:werd:
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CassiesMan
05-25-2005, 02:51 AM
Probably not a real cop car. Like those Vipers done up in police colors. Not really there to chase anyone, or even scare anyone, but there to do the whole school visits and what not. Theres one or two here in the f dub, one a viper and the other a cobra. I talked to the one who drives the Cobra, and he says they dont use it for chase or anything, its just kinda there to appeal to younger people who are into cars and what not, ya know, cops are cool too kinda thing.
drftk|d
05-25-2005, 03:10 AM
I am not 100% sure if this one is used for traffic, but I know the other cars that you are talking about. We got one that is looks like a full on drag car, that one goes to schools.
It's too damn expensive to replace those nice cars if ever they are in a accident.
BTW you guys should see the fight over who gets the Impala SS.
It's too damn expensive to replace those nice cars if ever they are in a accident.
BTW you guys should see the fight over who gets the Impala SS.
KrNxRaCer00
05-25-2005, 03:53 AM
we've already got the camaros and stangs as cops up here, so that'd be nothing new.
on the highway, the STI wouldn't really be any more effective, it'd stand out and as others have said...the top end isn't the greatest.
stick to the american muscle w/ this one.
on the highway, the STI wouldn't really be any more effective, it'd stand out and as others have said...the top end isn't the greatest.
stick to the american muscle w/ this one.
mason_RsX
05-25-2005, 09:50 AM
Cops are being a bit more creative not with their UC cars (except for that sti its just obvious....around here I have seen a few Durango cop cars and they really threw me off
in Toronto they have this stupid anti street racing show car which is a Civic SIR (wait a second...our SIR is your SI...WTF???) with a body kit, rims, and a billion stickers...and completely stock under the hood...our city actually promotes rice, its insane
in Toronto they have this stupid anti street racing show car which is a Civic SIR (wait a second...our SIR is your SI...WTF???) with a body kit, rims, and a billion stickers...and completely stock under the hood...our city actually promotes rice, its insane
clawhammer
05-25-2005, 10:40 AM
What a waste of taxpayers money. Around where I live I heard that they're going to be using Harleys because they get about 40 mpg, compared to like 20 with the Crown Vics.
i3o2Matt
05-25-2005, 11:23 AM
meh....in MD, on the highway at least i've seen a GTO undercover trooper...that was a sight...he had a camry pulled over lol
n i've seen a few of the brand new durangos as troopers as well.
n i've seen a few of the brand new durangos as troopers as well.
carrrnuttt
05-25-2005, 12:11 PM
For those questioning the practicality of an STi as a cop car, consider how many road monsters can be as comfortable going off-road? If a perp did that to try and shake a cop by going off-road, an STi equipped cop is actually getting the advantage. Unless the perp is in a rock-crawler.
For those questioning the STi's top-end, remember the car is electronically-limited to 155mph, while a Crown Vic is only rated up to 125mph in chases, though it can go faster, and Police Camaros are rated for chases up 150mph.
For those questioning the STi's top-end, remember the car is electronically-limited to 155mph, while a Crown Vic is only rated up to 125mph in chases, though it can go faster, and Police Camaros are rated for chases up 150mph.
xXRyCe_R0CkEtXx
05-25-2005, 12:24 PM
the acceleration and handling of the STI is also better then the "american muscle cars". and like carrrnuttt said having a rally car for a cop car would be very advantageous in off road chases. oh yea and it looks wayyy better too =P lol
drftk|d
05-25-2005, 12:28 PM
Crown Vics do 145 ;)
I've done it in mine.
I've done it in mine.
Aerowitz
05-25-2005, 12:53 PM
Drftk|d, is that a new alias or what? I'm confused.
My apologies if I'm mistaken.
My apologies if I'm mistaken.
Musashi3000GT
05-25-2005, 12:53 PM
The whole idea of an interceptor car is one that can advance ahead of a chace to block off, set up spikes, or do whatever it is they do. In a highway chase the STI can be criticized all you want. but if a cop had to cut through an open field, a dirt road, or even complex industrial streets, then the STI would out manuver and out run a camaro and crown vic any day. I know how monsterous and effective those two are. but rally racing is "the fastest point to point race in the world". so if a cop had to cut through downtown to head off a chase on a highway, the STI would be most effective.......or a helicopter! :loser:
clawhammer
05-25-2005, 01:14 PM
I'm questioning the STi's offroading capabilities. Yes, I'm aware that they are used in the rallies, but there just isn't enough ground clearance, especially if the cop versions were equipped with a performance suspension system. There would be a lot of underbody damage on those cars.
CassiesMan
05-25-2005, 01:22 PM
Those rally cars have rally suspensions and tires and other goodies like that. Also, does the STi come in an auto? I dunno to many cops in his area that can drive a standard. Be pretty funny to watch him try to take off after someone and end up stalling out...
jon@af
05-25-2005, 05:01 PM
Those rally cars have rally suspensions and tires and other goodies like that. Also, does the STi come in an auto? I dunno to many cops in his area that can drive a standard. Be pretty funny to watch him try to take off after someone and end up stalling out...
As far as I know the STi's only come in manual but I could be wrong. Besides that, I'm sure that if they needed to, the police could have it specially ordered to have an auto in it.
As far as I know the STi's only come in manual but I could be wrong. Besides that, I'm sure that if they needed to, the police could have it specially ordered to have an auto in it.
youngvr4
05-25-2005, 05:17 PM
if its for the city that would be cool, but i still say a maro or stang would be better for highway area.
for example, on I-90 there is no twists and turns its just triaght go top speed. and i know 1st hand what a sti can do up top and what a camaro can do up top. camaro will LS1 will eat a sti on a highway anyday
and more areodynamic.
for example, on I-90 there is no twists and turns its just triaght go top speed. and i know 1st hand what a sti can do up top and what a camaro can do up top. camaro will LS1 will eat a sti on a highway anyday
and more areodynamic.
drftk|d
05-25-2005, 05:50 PM
I'm not drftk1d( but use it as a way of staying very anonymous), I am someone who likes to read this forum, but can't really participate due to other reasons.
I can find out about that STI if it is used will take a few calls. I saw it while doing some training with CSP.
I can find out about that STI if it is used will take a few calls. I saw it while doing some training with CSP.
devster18
05-25-2005, 06:02 PM
Think of it this way. Even if they were to start using STIs, it only gives us a reason to make our cars faster.
CassiesMan
05-25-2005, 06:56 PM
And STis do stand out a lot more than Crown Vics and 'Maros...
BlackGT2000
05-25-2005, 08:09 PM
I think this is more of a novelty as people stated earlier. Its just so people think the police are cool. This car is too small to really hold all the equipment that it needs to be a true police cruiser. Also, your power to weight would go way off with 500 pounds of shit in there. The only advantage of having an STI over a camaro or mustang is that it has 4 doors and you could put criminals in the back. I don't think top end is really an issued since in most states high speed chases are actually not legal. In the end there are plenty of reasons why the police use the crown vic for regular duty.
1 roomy- They have enough room for electronics, weapons, rape kits, search kits, and 4 doors to put people in.
2 fast enough-the police 99.99 percent of the time are not driving off road after street racers, you fast and the furious types. And anyone with a 15 second car ought to look out anyway if you go around racing cops.
3 recognizable- police want to be seen. They would rather people not do a crime than sneak up on someone doing it. Its all about presence. For every time you got pulled over speeding, you have seen a cop and slowed down about 20 times.
1 roomy- They have enough room for electronics, weapons, rape kits, search kits, and 4 doors to put people in.
2 fast enough-the police 99.99 percent of the time are not driving off road after street racers, you fast and the furious types. And anyone with a 15 second car ought to look out anyway if you go around racing cops.
3 recognizable- police want to be seen. They would rather people not do a crime than sneak up on someone doing it. Its all about presence. For every time you got pulled over speeding, you have seen a cop and slowed down about 20 times.
NoRiceHere01
05-25-2005, 08:26 PM
the manual/automatic questions a good point. the older 5.0 mustang state police cars as well as the camaros are autos obviously, but they have engines that have torque curves that allow use of automatics. i just dont think the sti would run the same with an auto. theyre fast by stock import standards, but dont have anything a cobra or ls1 doesnt have. 300 horses just arent wut they used to be lol...
phantomz28
05-25-2005, 10:39 PM
as reguards to the manuvering of the camaro, i remember reading an article, i cant remember where my comp got a bug and trashed everything. but it was a list of the top 10 cars that where manuverable and the camaro was i think 6 or 7 and it was in good company too. the porsh 911 tt (thats the only one i can remember:P) but with the right upgrades camaros are very mauverable. my club does a canyon run every friday andits amaizing the sppd they can take those turns.
Mr. Luos
05-25-2005, 11:38 PM
I have actually taken pics of that car. In Boulder, couple miles from here.
Not a real cop car as far as I know, but who knows, that was about a year ago.
Not a real cop car as far as I know, but who knows, that was about a year ago.
carrrnuttt
05-26-2005, 12:24 AM
How the fuck did a discussion about the STi's viability as cop-car become a discussion about Camaros and Crown Vics, in an off-shoot of "import VS. domestic?
Anyhow, for those that haven't figured it out yet, the STi pictured is a novelty car, used for D.A.R.E. in Colorado.
I've addressed the issues. The top rated chasers, in the Camaros, are only rated for 150mph chases, and with the advent of new technology, are being used less, and less, as top-speed chases are being left to helicopters, and light-planes. Also, better communication between jurisdictions allows a relay between officers, where they can "pass off" perps.
You guys are missing the real value of the perennial cop-car, the Vic.
It is heavy enough to be used to push cars, and even trucks off-road, while still having enough oomph, and even handling, to be used on the freeway and the streets, all the while being cheap, and easy to replace.
Camaro's and Mustangs are specialists - chasers only. Although they are heavy enough to push some cars off the road, unless the situation is desperate, they will not be used for such.
With that being said, you might say that a car like the STi does not have the same oomph up top as the above-mentioned cars, especially the Camaro, but as mentioned above, there is not really a need for that anymore.
What you do need is a flexible car. Though not a ramming car, an STi is fast enough, and agile enough, where it will stay closer, and safer, to a perp's car than a Vic ever can, especially in inclement weather.
It's also a lot better with gas-mileage.
The Subaru, or any other car like it's biggest drawback is it is not suited for automatic shifting. Automatic is necessary for cops, as they are required to drive, and perform other things at the same time, such as speaking on the radio, pulling-up data on the CIC computer, or even shooting out tires on the move.
With that being said, one of the chasers the Arizona Department of Public Safety uses is a Volvo, which I have seen personally. I found out later, that with just the limiter removed, the turbo Volvo was capable of near 180mph.
You guys will find this interesting: http://www.promotex.ca/articles/cawthon/2003/02-15-2003_article.html
Anyhow, for those that haven't figured it out yet, the STi pictured is a novelty car, used for D.A.R.E. in Colorado.
I've addressed the issues. The top rated chasers, in the Camaros, are only rated for 150mph chases, and with the advent of new technology, are being used less, and less, as top-speed chases are being left to helicopters, and light-planes. Also, better communication between jurisdictions allows a relay between officers, where they can "pass off" perps.
You guys are missing the real value of the perennial cop-car, the Vic.
It is heavy enough to be used to push cars, and even trucks off-road, while still having enough oomph, and even handling, to be used on the freeway and the streets, all the while being cheap, and easy to replace.
Camaro's and Mustangs are specialists - chasers only. Although they are heavy enough to push some cars off the road, unless the situation is desperate, they will not be used for such.
With that being said, you might say that a car like the STi does not have the same oomph up top as the above-mentioned cars, especially the Camaro, but as mentioned above, there is not really a need for that anymore.
What you do need is a flexible car. Though not a ramming car, an STi is fast enough, and agile enough, where it will stay closer, and safer, to a perp's car than a Vic ever can, especially in inclement weather.
It's also a lot better with gas-mileage.
The Subaru, or any other car like it's biggest drawback is it is not suited for automatic shifting. Automatic is necessary for cops, as they are required to drive, and perform other things at the same time, such as speaking on the radio, pulling-up data on the CIC computer, or even shooting out tires on the move.
With that being said, one of the chasers the Arizona Department of Public Safety uses is a Volvo, which I have seen personally. I found out later, that with just the limiter removed, the turbo Volvo was capable of near 180mph.
You guys will find this interesting: http://www.promotex.ca/articles/cawthon/2003/02-15-2003_article.html
thecackster
05-26-2005, 12:35 PM
Well the vic is done any ways, it was replaced by the 500. havn't seen any of them yet but would be a cool cop car to see around
Musashi3000GT
05-26-2005, 01:02 PM
I've also been seeing alot about the Dodge Magnum Police Car in the Mopar magazines. Are those gonna be for real or also as showoffs?
BlackGT2000
05-26-2005, 02:51 PM
Actually the Ford 500 replaced the taurus. The Crown Vic is still being produced. Also, from what I understand the Magnum is offered in a police package for regular duty as a cruiser. It makes sense to use something that big and powered by a V8 as a cop car.
LoW_KeY
05-26-2005, 03:10 PM
no matter what they use would be fitting, its the radios that kill ya :lol2:
vegetto1982
05-26-2005, 05:10 PM
The cameras on intersections are used for what again? Running redlights.
mason_RsX
05-26-2005, 06:07 PM
Yeah but theres still enough situations that you need a fast capable police car...and the radios are deadly, but there can be situations where your the only cop in the area and you need to ge this guy before he hurts himself or others...you need the speed and power
Sleepr awd
05-26-2005, 07:40 PM
they should stick to camaro's and mustangs, they have better top end speed, sti's arent your typical highway monsters
here in mizery, we have snow,... snow + RWD = funny images of cops not being able to go anywhere...
i'm guessing they would be using STI's because:
#1 if they don't drive aggressively they get better gas mileage (2.5i4 vs. V8 supercharged...)
#2 it's easier to keep traction through windy country roads
#3 its easier to keep traction in rain, snow, and through gravel roads
#4 didnt' think cops could continue a chase after 120mph, which the STI dominates up to that
i imagine even further their sti's would be faster because they wouldn't leave them stock, they certainly dont' have stock crown vic's in my town they are all police interceptor supercharged
here in mizery, we have snow,... snow + RWD = funny images of cops not being able to go anywhere...
i'm guessing they would be using STI's because:
#1 if they don't drive aggressively they get better gas mileage (2.5i4 vs. V8 supercharged...)
#2 it's easier to keep traction through windy country roads
#3 its easier to keep traction in rain, snow, and through gravel roads
#4 didnt' think cops could continue a chase after 120mph, which the STI dominates up to that
i imagine even further their sti's would be faster because they wouldn't leave them stock, they certainly dont' have stock crown vic's in my town they are all police interceptor supercharged
-The Stig-
05-26-2005, 10:33 PM
i'm guessing they would be using STI's because:
#1 if they don't drive aggressively they get better gas mileage (2.5i4 vs. V8 supercharged...)
Since when is the STi an Inline four? And... what supercharged V8's are in Cop cars?
I dunno to many cops in his area that can drive a standard. Be pretty funny to watch him try to take off after someone and end up stalling out...
You make it sound like Cops never drove stick before they joined the force... Or that it's improbable that they drive a stick in their daily cars. Ya'know.. they're guys/gals just like us.
They like to drive fun cars too! hehe.
#1 if they don't drive aggressively they get better gas mileage (2.5i4 vs. V8 supercharged...)
Since when is the STi an Inline four? And... what supercharged V8's are in Cop cars?
I dunno to many cops in his area that can drive a standard. Be pretty funny to watch him try to take off after someone and end up stalling out...
You make it sound like Cops never drove stick before they joined the force... Or that it's improbable that they drive a stick in their daily cars. Ya'know.. they're guys/gals just like us.
They like to drive fun cars too! hehe.
ac427cpe
05-26-2005, 10:53 PM
/sigh @ the arguing
at least the car is still marked... i see more unmarked police cars here in phoenix than marked... i've seen at least 3 "unmarked" police wrx's here... white with a vertical slanted black stripe, with the LED lights on top of the black stripe, they just blended in...
at least the car is still marked... i see more unmarked police cars here in phoenix than marked... i've seen at least 3 "unmarked" police wrx's here... white with a vertical slanted black stripe, with the LED lights on top of the black stripe, they just blended in...
Redcivic3
05-26-2005, 11:27 PM
Cops are being a bit more creative not with their UC cars (except for that sti its just obvious....around here I have seen a few Durango cop cars and they really threw me off
in Toronto they have this stupid anti street racing show car which is a Civic SIR (wait a second...our SIR is your SI...WTF???) with a body kit, rims, and a billion stickers...and completely stock under the hood...our city actually promotes rice, its insane
that PACER car is never on the road though.
where i live, in Orangeville,Ontario the UC cop car is a Regal GS.
that supercharged engine helps it scoot along nicely.
in Toronto they have this stupid anti street racing show car which is a Civic SIR (wait a second...our SIR is your SI...WTF???) with a body kit, rims, and a billion stickers...and completely stock under the hood...our city actually promotes rice, its insane
that PACER car is never on the road though.
where i live, in Orangeville,Ontario the UC cop car is a Regal GS.
that supercharged engine helps it scoot along nicely.
drftk|d
05-28-2005, 02:10 AM
CSP has unmarked WRX's and a few other cars. That STI is more of a show car.
ac427cpe, PHX we got alot of different cars including a few seized cars that are unmarked, ones that probably not many people would even figure on. Some ghetto rides aswell.
I'll tell you this we got 3 Porsche's that are unmarked in PHX .
ac427cpe, PHX we got alot of different cars including a few seized cars that are unmarked, ones that probably not many people would even figure on. Some ghetto rides aswell.
I'll tell you this we got 3 Porsche's that are unmarked in PHX .
RACER D12
05-28-2005, 09:40 AM
Looks to me like that license plate says Colorado so a STI would make a lot of sense.
drftk1d
05-28-2005, 04:59 PM
WTF who is using my sn?
fucking biters. get your own screename, i had this shit since 03. IM A REAL OG.
fucking biters. get your own screename, i had this shit since 03. IM A REAL OG.
broddie50
05-28-2005, 06:36 PM
I can see the sti as viable police car in certain areas of the states... awd in the snow has definate advantages over big torque rwd drive cars in that case. Just imagine a cammed ls1 or chipped and pullied cobra on the Cali highways though, talk about "interceptors"....
CivRacer95
05-28-2005, 08:04 PM
WTF who is using my sn?
fucking biters. get your own screename, i had this shit since 03. IM A REAL OG.
Sorry drftk1d, but his name does look cooler than yours. You may be the OG, but he's updated and X-rated :biggrin:
fucking biters. get your own screename, i had this shit since 03. IM A REAL OG.
Sorry drftk1d, but his name does look cooler than yours. You may be the OG, but he's updated and X-rated :biggrin:
drftk1d
05-28-2005, 09:06 PM
Sorry drftk1d, but his name does look cooler than yours. You may be the OG, but he's updated and X-rated :biggrin:
fine then, watch out for CivRacer96.
fine then, watch out for CivRacer96.
Sleepr awd
05-28-2005, 10:24 PM
Since when is the STi an Inline four? And... what supercharged V8's are in Cop cars?
the police crown vics in my area at least used to be supercharged, not entierly sure about V8's and i guess the STi isn't an inline 4, cuz itsa boxer motor? i kno very little except i get smoked by them
the police crown vics in my area at least used to be supercharged, not entierly sure about V8's and i guess the STi isn't an inline 4, cuz itsa boxer motor? i kno very little except i get smoked by them
drftk1d
05-29-2005, 12:10 PM
boxer = horizontally opposed, or flat.
http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/engine-flat-4.jpg
inline:
http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/engine-inline-4.jpg
http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/engine-flat-4.jpg
inline:
http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/engine-inline-4.jpg
Sleepr awd
05-29-2005, 05:39 PM
^^ so what is it called...just 4 cyl?
CassiesMan
05-29-2005, 07:46 PM
I call 'em H4s...they use the similar motor in the Porsche 911s. Cept theirs have 6 cylinders.
drftk1d
05-30-2005, 01:44 PM
^^ so what is it called...just 4 cyl?
the one on top is a boxer or flat 4, one on bottom is an inline 4.
btw subaru has 6 cylender flat 6s also.
the one on top is a boxer or flat 4, one on bottom is an inline 4.
btw subaru has 6 cylender flat 6s also.
Sleepr awd
05-30-2005, 03:44 PM
gotcha thanks
Right_LiRrr
06-01-2005, 05:03 AM
The cops in sydney have 2 STi's, both marked I think.
Probably more to do with scaring ppl on highway chases since STi's have a very scary reputation.
Probably more to do with scaring ppl on highway chases since STi's have a very scary reputation.
SubaruRally
06-02-2005, 01:02 AM
I am pretty sure the Sti has a higher top speed than a GT mustang, so i dont know why you would say the mustang is better on the highway (Sti max speed = 155mph ... mustang = 140 mph ) http://www.supercars.net/cars/2005@$Ford@$Mustang%20GTx.html
http://www.supercars.net/cars/2003@$Subaru@$Impreza%20WRX%20STix.html
there is info for both cars.. as for the camaro it is a bit faster but overall i think the Sti is a much better car except i wouldent want to drive a cop car hehe
http://www.supercars.net/cars/2003@$Subaru@$Impreza%20WRX%20STix.html
there is info for both cars.. as for the camaro it is a bit faster but overall i think the Sti is a much better car except i wouldent want to drive a cop car hehe
Mr. Luos
06-02-2005, 01:08 AM
I took these pics about a year ago....probably a little longer.
This car is NOT an actual CSP patrol car. I think that had been resolved already though.
http://home.comcast.net/~mrluos/Patrol01.JPG
http://home.comcast.net/~mrluos/Patrol.JPG
This car is NOT an actual CSP patrol car. I think that had been resolved already though.
http://home.comcast.net/~mrluos/Patrol01.JPG
http://home.comcast.net/~mrluos/Patrol.JPG
BlackGT2000
06-02-2005, 04:58 PM
I am pretty sure the Sti has a higher top speed than a GT mustang, so i dont know why you would say the mustang is better on the highway (Sti max speed = 155mph ... mustang = 140 mph ) http://www.supercars.net/cars/2005@$Ford@$Mustang%20GTx.html
http://www.supercars.net/cars/2003@$Subaru@$Impreza%20WRX%20STix.html
there is info for both cars.. as for the camaro it is a bit faster but overall i think the Sti is a much better car except i wouldent want to drive a cop car hehe
The STI being a better car is totally subjective, personally I don't see any of these cars as particularly well suited to police duty. The only valid point I have heard for using a STI, Mustang or camaro for police duty is for a DARE car or simply to make a cop look cool to young kids. Off subject but, prior to 05 not all mustangs were governed to 140, or any speed for that matter. Police shouldn't be driving that fast anyway.
http://www.supercars.net/cars/2003@$Subaru@$Impreza%20WRX%20STix.html
there is info for both cars.. as for the camaro it is a bit faster but overall i think the Sti is a much better car except i wouldent want to drive a cop car hehe
The STI being a better car is totally subjective, personally I don't see any of these cars as particularly well suited to police duty. The only valid point I have heard for using a STI, Mustang or camaro for police duty is for a DARE car or simply to make a cop look cool to young kids. Off subject but, prior to 05 not all mustangs were governed to 140, or any speed for that matter. Police shouldn't be driving that fast anyway.
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