oil filter adapter problem
profox02
05-23-2005, 12:16 PM
Ive got a '91 chevy p/u with a '92 GM crate 350...and ive run into a problem...this has never happen to me before or anyone i know...The oil filter adapter(the piece that the oil filter treads onto to hold up the filter) has cracked in two...i got another one from a junkyard cause a new one at the dealer is 113.00 ....i put this one on and it was all good for a day then this moring on the way to work the piece of crap broke again....and i had to call my wife and bring the other truck ....but anyways i need to know whats wrong with it befor I buy another one and just brake it again...thx
84fiero123
05-23-2005, 12:34 PM
is the adapter case itself broken or is it just one of the lines? if the whole case is broken i would go with the $113. one from the dealer, but i would also check the local parts stores first, napa, car quest, motor supply or who ever you have local. they may stock it, they have been stocking the lines for those because of the amount of problems there are with the lines, as far as why it broke you got me there is nothing there that would break it unless you front shaft coming from transfere case has a bad u joint, thats the only thing close to that that moves. good luck, and hope you didn't run it out of oil before you realized it was broken.
profox02
05-23-2005, 12:53 PM
as soon as i saw my oil pressure drop i pulled over...but its the thing that holds up the filter ..my buddy thinks maybe its turn the wrong way...any more ideas
mbumgua
05-23-2005, 12:53 PM
Do you have 2 or 4 wheel drive?
profox02
05-23-2005, 01:10 PM
its a 2wd half ton short bed, with standard cab.
mbumgua
05-23-2005, 03:58 PM
A couple of things it could be-- the oil pump itself has a pressure relief valve in it -if this sticks it can blow the filter and crack the housing-usually this happens when you start up cold, not driving down the road--have you noticed any high oil pressures? Do you have the oil cooler with lines coming out of the adapter or just the filter adapter with plugs, and is your filter vertical or is it horizontal--large filter-1 quart or small half quart filter? There are pressure relief fittings in the filter housing as well. The jukyard one could have had a hairline crack from being wrecked-- Did it crack in the same place as the first one? You could go with the cheaper old style 350 adapter --which mounts the filter vertical-- if you don't have an oil cooler.
profox02
05-23-2005, 04:20 PM
I Have Just Noticed Normal Oil Pressure And No There Are No Oil Lines Coming Out Ofthe Adapter Also It Is Mounted Vertical(its A "ph5" I Think Its A Quart) And Yes It Cracked In The Same Place As The Old One.
mbumgua
05-23-2005, 11:49 PM
OK a couple more question--did you install the crate 350 yourself--did you reuse the old adapter or did the crate motor come with a new one? Is it possible that you tightened it too much? the chevy book calls for 80 inch-lbs torque. $113 is awful high for that tiny piece of aluminium.
profox02
05-24-2005, 09:13 AM
yes my bubby and i installed the 350...and yes i had to reuse the adaptor...i also called another dealer and they said they could get me one for 35 bucks..
profox02
05-24-2005, 09:15 AM
i could have tightened it too much...cause i did not use a torque wrench i just tighten it ... :disappoin
mbumgua
05-24-2005, 09:17 AM
I would get the $35 one and install it with a torque wrench and see what happens--Good luck!!
profox02
05-24-2005, 09:25 AM
k thankz
profox02
05-24-2005, 09:40 AM
oh yeah ..one more ? we did this swap awhile ago and there has been no problem..and just one day its breaks...one thing is when it did break, it was on the longest trip the new engine has been on since we swap it....also on the 80inch-pounds is that 80x.083 to convert to foot-pounds..???
mbumgua
05-24-2005, 03:45 PM
80 inch-lbs = 6.7 foot pounds
mbumgua
05-24-2005, 03:46 PM
Did you change the oil and filter right before you went on the long trip?
profox02
05-24-2005, 04:03 PM
i did the oil change about a week before the trip...and i did notice the oil filter had some oil on it the day before i left...
mbumgua
05-24-2005, 05:15 PM
How high is your normal oil pressure; and how tight do you usually tighten the oil filter--did you tighten it more when you noticed the oil on it?
profox02
05-24-2005, 06:35 PM
Dont Know What The "normal" Oil Pressure Is ..it Goes All The Way To The End Of The Gauge....and I Hand Tight The Filter(1/2 To 3/4 Of A Turn After The Rubber Gasket Touches)...and Yes I Did Tighten The Filter When I Saw Oil...
mbumgua
05-25-2005, 09:23 AM
I think perhaps the problem is your oil pump relief valve sticking and overpressuring the system. Normal oil pressure for a new chevy 350 is between 30-45 lbs or halfway to 3/4 on the gauge. I would hook up a temp press gauge with numbers and see how high it is. If relief valve is sticking you could use lighter oil or add a quart of dexxron in place of one quart of oil to free it up- or pull pan and check the pump.
profox02
05-25-2005, 09:24 AM
got a new adaptor with oil cooler lines...this one seems to be alot stronger...put it one last night and it seems to run fine...but this morning it seems to have dripped a little oil..but i dont know if its from the adaptor or if its from all the oil that sprayed all over the place when the old adaptor broke....how tight should this one be(oil filter adaptor with oil cooler)?
mbumgua
05-25-2005, 09:28 AM
Chevy book says same as other adapter-6.7 foot-lbs.
profox02
05-25-2005, 09:31 AM
the torque wrence that im using starts at 15 foot-pounds...so i just went by hand it seems to be holding well
profox02
05-26-2005, 09:33 AM
another ?....which way is the oil flow..does it go into the middle of the filter then out the little holes around the center???....im gonna add the oil cooler sometime not to long from now..the new adaptor seems to be holding well, no oil drips last night...
mbumgua
05-26-2005, 11:47 AM
In the little holes out the big hole
profox02
05-26-2005, 11:52 AM
Thanks For All The Help Mbumgua.
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