does this seem like a decent setup?

i have a low budget...and a stock 98 dx. these are the things im planning on doing to it as i work this summer:
1. mini me swap with d16y8 head and p28 ecu
2. cat-back exhaust?
3. cold air intake?
4. headers?
5. piece together a turbo setup
6. rims?? coilovers?? (too far away to worry about for now)

im only going to be working minimum wage...but i will be working pretty much everyday, all day...so this setup will take a while...i know it would be better to do an engine swap...but i cant wait around for that kind of cash...so what do you guys think?...ANY help or suggestions are appreciated. i really want some feedback on this.

also...what would be a decent cat-back exhaust and a decent cold air intake for my setup?...i havent really researched that much...but they seem to vary in price by ALOT.
thanks

**edit** maybe throw in an ex tranny somewhere in that list

if you are not wanting to do a full swap, the y8 head is a good idea, but if you can find a Full D16Y8 Swap (tranny and all) do it. this should be under $1,000 (more like $700) and only a days time to do, if you know what you are doing, which i dont- LOL
while you are doing that you may as well build intenal, cams ect... anyway the full d16y8 should be a complete drop in and cheap

peacing together a turbo setup sounds real great but it is not as easy as every one says. there is many things to worry about, oil lines, turbo manifold, the actaul turbo, blow off valves, pipeing (can get from the exaust shop). this takes a little know how.
this will end up being over $1500

as for the exaust you just need somthing high flow. maybe $350

about $3000 total.
i am not an expert, far from it actauly.
and it is possible that i am retarded also

P.S.
if this thing has any power you will need a new suspetion also.

this may make me a bastard, but i hate young kids with ambitions

what other differences are there with a FULL d16y8 swap...between a mini-me and a ex tranny?..for building up the motor...what would i do to it? and how much would that end up costing?

and about the turbo...believe me, ive read up on stuff...so i know how complicated its going to be...one of my friends' brother says he can help me with it...not quiet sure about that though...i mean the guy knows his stuff, but i dont know how willing he is to helping me.
thanks for the input

thank you for praising my little d16y8 motor. I feel much better now... someone actually wants to swap in my motor when all i can think about is swapping my motor for a larger one!

if you can, one of my favorite mods thus far, if i had to start all over would be the eibach performance springs. They make the ride so much more fun. Tighter handling too!

If you are going to swap a motor...dont do D series. Whats the point? Get a B series. There's a shop on Ebay that's selling a B18B1 motor for $740 plus S/H. That motor stock puts out 140 HP. A stock D16Y8 only puts out 127 HP. I have a D16Y8 in my car now and there's nothing to brag about. IF you have enough money dont swap for another D series. For a little smiggen more cash you can do a LOT better.

is that 140 whp?

yeah that should be wheel HP

that's flywheel HP, it's more like 115-120 whp

And that's probably for just the motor itself, you're going to need a lot of other parts to do the swap successfully.

www.hmotorsonline.com has their complete b18b swap priced at around $2500 i believe, before shippng.

yeah...im not looking for a d16y8 full motor swap...i was just planning on the head swap (mini me)...and i know its nothing to brag about...and i wouldnt be pulling amazing times in the 1/4 mile...but i want to have a quick car...that i can brag atleast to my friends about...and a d16y8 with a turbo and all the boltons would be pretty fast..i think...obviously it wouldnt be as fast as a b series with a turbo...but i would still get some respect...right? :confused: ...and if i had the cash...trust me, id swap it.

to blkcivic: i was planning on eventually getting some coilovers...ive heard bad things about just getting springs...correct me if im wrong

I would say do the mini me swap. While you are doing it, build up the block for boost. Turbo it, run insane boost on your mini me and have fun with it.

go here and read, check out the dynos etc. http://www.turbod16.com/

thank you for the support....what would i need to do to build up the block?...it might be in the link...but i dont have time to read it right now..(bookmarked)...so if you dont answer...ill just check it out myself
thanks again

forged rods, forged pistons and stronger sleeves. if you go to www.raceeng.com you can pick up a complete package for 800-1000 which isn't bad at all. But there are a few people running stock d16y7 motors on that site pushing near 200whp without a problem

dayymmnn...remember im on a budget here!..haha...could i go without building it up for a while...and if something blows, THEN replace it with that (or..if i had some extra money, id do it)?

also...after the mini-me...when i buy parts for the engine...(such as the forged pistons)..would i buy them for a d16y7 or d16y8?...is there any differences between the two engines besides the head? (which i would be replacing with the mini-me)

the block is the same pretty much. I'm pretty sure that the parts would be listed for both but don't quote me on that

real coil overs are like $1000. The stock shocks should work just fine. Unless you want to autocross, i recommend the Eibach springs.

real coilovers can be bought for around $600

Check out the Tein Basics at www.hpautoworks.com and Omnipower coilovers at www.kteller.com

Both are great units.

alright..thanks for the help guys...does anyone know a good place to look for a p28 ecu or a d16y8 head?

The junkyard is your best friend. There is a junkyard where my friend lives in Eastern washington that sells all of their ecus for $8 a piece no joke. Just look around at your local salvage yards and pick a parts you'll be able to find something.

yeah...but i live in bakersfield...i dont think there are any junkyards around...or atleast any that would have anything...also..i dont know if i would know what i was getting (i dont know much about cars)..lol

i have a virgin ODBI P28 for sale... look in the classifieds section for the title "Parting Out D16Z6"

damn... i thought you said you were on a budget... after spending the money for even a piece together turbo, headers, cat back, and the head, your easily looking to spend over 2500. if i were spending that kind of money i would save it untill i had it and but a b16a2 swap... you could find a complete engine swap kit for around that price, maybe a few hundred more but you would be at like 170hp instead of 130.... just my opinion... its your car, do what you want and like :biggrin:

eh yeah...i am on a budget...as of now i have 180..haha...getting around 300 more by friday...that list that i have is in the far future...and yeah i could save all summer and have enough for a swap...but im impatient...and even after the swap...i wouldnt have as fast of a car as i would with my original plan...and sure, once i saved another year (on top of the summer save), i would have a quicker car...but like i said...im impatient..haha :(...ah, maybe in a couple years ill be sick of this car anyways, and ill be starting a new project....i dont need something that'll be pulling 9 sec times...i just want something that'll be quick, and have something to show off...in the end it wont be as quick as it could be...but i think ill be happy :uhoh:

edit: plus, i know jack about cars...so this'll be a good learning experience

damn... i thought you said you were on a budget... after spending the money for even a piece together turbo, headers, cat back, and the head, your easily looking to spend over 2500. if i were spending that kind of money i would save it untill i had it and but a b16a2 swap... you could find a complete engine swap kit for around that price, maybe a few hundred more but you would be at like 170hp instead of 130.... just my opinion... its your car, do what you want and like :biggrin:

yah you could swap in the B16, but then you would have to pay to get it installed as alacard said, he's new to this and he'd only be sitting at about 135-140whp. Where as with the Mini me and turbo he'd could be sitting at 200whp.

BTW, getting a header, not headers, if you're getting a turbo is pointless since you will have to get rid of the header anyhow.

yeah...i recently realized that..haha.. thanks

So stick to your original plan. The stock Y7 block will handle up to 175whp without a problem. You'll be pushing it after that, but with a great tune, 200whp on a stock block is possible.

if it was me, a b series swap isnt too much money, like someone else said they are cheap. a shop where i live sells b18b1 motors for like $550, you still have to get axles ecu, all that b.s. but i would rather just save a little longer and throw an ls motor in, then slap a b16 or gsr head on it, then you got a fat lsvtec, which then you really have something to brag about....thats just my opinion, also i got a b20vtec for sale...it will fit into an 88-91 perfectly, but that doesnt help you i guess.

You guys keep saying that the B series swaps are cheap and they are in terms of motor swaps, but the prices you guys keep throwing out aren't for the entire swap. The entire swap is going to cost around $2000. With $2000 you get a whopping 140hp and need to spend more to make it fast. He's not looking for an all out drag car, just something quick. With $2000 into his D motor he could be looking at 200+WHP which is plenty for a daily driver.

You guys keep saying that the B series swaps are cheap and they are in terms of motor swaps, but the prices you guys keep throwing out aren't for the entire swap. The entire swap is going to cost around $2000. With $2000 you get a whopping 140hp and need to spend more to make it fast. He's not looking for an all out drag car, just something quick. With $2000 into his D motor he could be looking at 200+WHP which is plenty for a daily driver.

perfectly said

perfectly said
http://www.turbod16.com/
A d series-turbo is so much more cost effective than any b series. I do admit if you are looking for more than 250whp, a b series would be a better idea.