Which camber correction bolts? PICS inside!!
LX98Civic
04-13-2002, 01:20 PM
Ok, I am sick and tired of driving around town looking for these damn bolts. I bought 4 from the Home Depot here only to find out the bolts in the packages are not 1.25 thread. I now have 4 40mm 8 . 8 grade that I got from ACE Hardware and 4 45mm
10 . 9 grade automotive bolts that I got from Pep Boys. The only bad thing about the Pep Boys bolts are the threads only are about halfway up the bolt as you can see in the pics.... I am most likely going to just use the Pep Boys bolts since they are the strongest material. I am measuring the bolt and just under 1" has threads and another 1" without threads. This does NOT include the hex head. Just the shaft of the bolt. Since my camber is off 3 degrees in the rear I am most likely going to need 4-5 washers anyhow.
You'll have to use your imagination since I do not know how to copy pictures. At the time when I took the OEM bolt out I had the Home Depot 40mm lenght (wrong thread pitch) bolts. Those are the 2 bolts in the pic below:
http://a7.cpimg.com/image/CD/1F/9516237-38dc-01E00280-.jpg
Now here is another 40mm lenght bolt (right thread pitch) lined up against the Pep Boys bolt that is only threaded half way:
http://a1.cpimg.com/image/EF/20/9516271-62b9-028001E0-.jpg
Here is another pic of the same 2 bolts showing the size of them. I covered the flash since it was causing a glare on the tape measure:
http://a8.cpimg.com/image/E2/20/9516258-818f-028001E0-.jpg
You can just imagine how much longer the 45mm is to the OEM bolt when looking at the pics. My main concern are the 1" of threads on the Pep Boys bolt. I don't think it will be a problem though since those bolts are really strong.
Here is a site that tells you about the grade / strength of bolts:
http://mdmetric.com/tech/u19e2.htm
What do you think? Pep Boys bolts should be fine?
[i]Previewing Post: Actually, as I am previewing the pics it looks as if the OEM may only be threaded an inch or so. So, I think the Pep Boys bolts should work fine.... Anyone else see this? I am going to be doing this Monday, so hopefully I am seeing all this right...
10 . 9 grade automotive bolts that I got from Pep Boys. The only bad thing about the Pep Boys bolts are the threads only are about halfway up the bolt as you can see in the pics.... I am most likely going to just use the Pep Boys bolts since they are the strongest material. I am measuring the bolt and just under 1" has threads and another 1" without threads. This does NOT include the hex head. Just the shaft of the bolt. Since my camber is off 3 degrees in the rear I am most likely going to need 4-5 washers anyhow.
You'll have to use your imagination since I do not know how to copy pictures. At the time when I took the OEM bolt out I had the Home Depot 40mm lenght (wrong thread pitch) bolts. Those are the 2 bolts in the pic below:
http://a7.cpimg.com/image/CD/1F/9516237-38dc-01E00280-.jpg
Now here is another 40mm lenght bolt (right thread pitch) lined up against the Pep Boys bolt that is only threaded half way:
http://a1.cpimg.com/image/EF/20/9516271-62b9-028001E0-.jpg
Here is another pic of the same 2 bolts showing the size of them. I covered the flash since it was causing a glare on the tape measure:
http://a8.cpimg.com/image/E2/20/9516258-818f-028001E0-.jpg
You can just imagine how much longer the 45mm is to the OEM bolt when looking at the pics. My main concern are the 1" of threads on the Pep Boys bolt. I don't think it will be a problem though since those bolts are really strong.
Here is a site that tells you about the grade / strength of bolts:
http://mdmetric.com/tech/u19e2.htm
What do you think? Pep Boys bolts should be fine?
[i]Previewing Post: Actually, as I am previewing the pics it looks as if the OEM may only be threaded an inch or so. So, I think the Pep Boys bolts should work fine.... Anyone else see this? I am going to be doing this Monday, so hopefully I am seeing all this right...
sparq
04-13-2002, 09:01 PM
4-5 washers ? Yeah right... Rene (Rice-Rocketeer) ended up using like 3-4 washers PER DEGREE of camber -- and is it really that hard to just ASK someone for the right shit instead of waisting your money on bolts that you wont use? :confused:
LX98Civic
04-14-2002, 11:48 AM
Originally posted by sparq
4-5 washers ? Yeah right... Rene (Rice-Rocketeer) ended up using like 3-4 washers PER DEGREE of camber -- and is it really that hard to just ASK someone for the right shit instead of waisting your money on bolts that you wont use? :confused:
They're all going back. And if the 5-6 don't correct the camber, they're all going back and I am just going to buy a camber kit :rolleyes: ...How thick were the washers he used?
4-5 washers ? Yeah right... Rene (Rice-Rocketeer) ended up using like 3-4 washers PER DEGREE of camber -- and is it really that hard to just ASK someone for the right shit instead of waisting your money on bolts that you wont use? :confused:
They're all going back. And if the 5-6 don't correct the camber, they're all going back and I am just going to buy a camber kit :rolleyes: ...How thick were the washers he used?
LX98Civic
04-14-2002, 03:42 PM
I just added 6 per bolt (Pep Boys bolts) and it straightened the $hit out of my rear wheels. Actually, too much! I bet it's about at 0 degrees and now my rear is rubbing on EVERY little bump. This is after I raised it up maybe a 1/4" of an inch because the rear had been sitting a little lower than the front. So, I am going to miss work today (I'm going to play dumb and act like I had the day off :rolleyes: ) and have to go back out and remove 2 washers from each bolt :o
Pics will be up later :)
Pics will be up later :)
sparq
04-14-2002, 09:23 PM
Cool, dunno what size washers he used, but speaking of that -- I think I need to do that... hit me up with a PM, we have details to discuss :bloated:
LX98Civic
04-15-2002, 09:58 AM
I'm going to remove 3 washers and just hope for no more than 1.8 degrees of negative camber. If I were to remove 2 washers I bet it still will rub hard in the rear. I'll just make sure I rotate the tires between 3 and 4k.
Well here are the pics:
http://a4.cpimg.com/image/1E/43/9533214-a32d-028001E0-.jpg
http://a3.cpimg.com/image/1D/43/9533213-8443-028001E0-.jpg
http://a6.cpimg.com/image/20/43/9533216-ea97-028001E0-.jpg
http://a1.cpimg.com/image/25/43/9533221-96df-028001E0-.jpg
After I took her around the block and rubbed at least 4 times :eek:
That has got to be 0 or maybe even positive camber. I am going to remove 3 of the 6 washers.....
http://a9.cpimg.com/image/19/42/9533209-338c-01E00280-.jpg
I'll be back....
I used 3/8" galvanized washers as showed on the jdmfan site :)
Well here are the pics:
http://a4.cpimg.com/image/1E/43/9533214-a32d-028001E0-.jpg
http://a3.cpimg.com/image/1D/43/9533213-8443-028001E0-.jpg
http://a6.cpimg.com/image/20/43/9533216-ea97-028001E0-.jpg
http://a1.cpimg.com/image/25/43/9533221-96df-028001E0-.jpg
After I took her around the block and rubbed at least 4 times :eek:
That has got to be 0 or maybe even positive camber. I am going to remove 3 of the 6 washers.....
http://a9.cpimg.com/image/19/42/9533209-338c-01E00280-.jpg
I'll be back....
I used 3/8" galvanized washers as showed on the jdmfan site :)
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