$5000 build-up game
clawhammer
05-20-2005, 11:53 PM
No, you won't win $5000, but after reading the thread on the Camaro vs. Evo, everyone write up a car (including the car) that you could build for $5000 and guesstimate the HP it will have. The rules are that it must be fairly reliable (no 300 shot on a stock civic engine), $5000 budget including the car, and no flaming. I'll go first:
91 NA MR2 $1000
Gen 2 JDM 3sgte $2500
clutch $400
IC (Greddy) $700
Custom exhaust $500
At 15-17 psi should dyno at about 250 whp and run low 13s with a good driver..
91 NA MR2 $1000
Gen 2 JDM 3sgte $2500
clutch $400
IC (Greddy) $700
Custom exhaust $500
At 15-17 psi should dyno at about 250 whp and run low 13s with a good driver..
91300zxtt
05-21-2005, 12:03 AM
Foxbody mustang, tired engine
Replace internals and supercharge
Replace internals and supercharge
CassiesMan
05-21-2005, 12:15 AM
I cant buy any car that I want for less than five grand, and any engine that I would want for less than five...
Ummm...I say a go kart with an LS1 or 2JZ...lol...I dunno.
Seriously? I think I could find a 240Z body thats motorless, and not quite up to par with most safty standards for 200, a used SR20DEt on ebay for a cuple thouand, use the rest to build up the motor.
Ummm...I say a go kart with an LS1 or 2JZ...lol...I dunno.
Seriously? I think I could find a 240Z body thats motorless, and not quite up to par with most safty standards for 200, a used SR20DEt on ebay for a cuple thouand, use the rest to build up the motor.
dampachi
05-21-2005, 12:24 AM
honda civic 2,500
altezzas 100
universal wing 250
spinner hubcaps 25
muffler tip 25
electric mist ultra blue paintjob with an elaborate dragon painted on the side plus 34u324 stickers 2100
400fwhp. 9s.
altezzas 100
universal wing 250
spinner hubcaps 25
muffler tip 25
electric mist ultra blue paintjob with an elaborate dragon painted on the side plus 34u324 stickers 2100
400fwhp. 9s.
chevytrucks92
05-21-2005, 12:27 AM
Ahh, can't do it for just $5K. So i'll just build an engine, lol.
Start with a 400 block, get it punched out .030. Then get forged internals (probably $1500 for rods, pistons-13.5:1 compression-, crank, and all the bearings/rings), then go with a .680 lift roller cam, AFR allum. heads, 2.10/1.6 valves, ported Victor Jr. Intake with Holley 750-850 cfm Proform carb.
All of that would get ya about 650 or so hp.
Start with a 400 block, get it punched out .030. Then get forged internals (probably $1500 for rods, pistons-13.5:1 compression-, crank, and all the bearings/rings), then go with a .680 lift roller cam, AFR allum. heads, 2.10/1.6 valves, ported Victor Jr. Intake with Holley 750-850 cfm Proform carb.
All of that would get ya about 650 or so hp.
TatII
05-21-2005, 01:18 AM
this guy i know is building a 12 second 240 for $2500 hes almost done.
a 89 240sx with blown engine. $300
custom turbo manifold $300
T3 super 60 turbo $250
custom intercooler and piping $300
custom downpipe and exhuast $400
injectors and fuel controller $500 ( ebay )
junkyard sohc engine with tranny $200
clutch $300
drag radial $250
so thats a total of $2800. but since he has alot of those parts lying around his house, he actually has to spend less then $2500
he should run a high 12 and trap over 110mph. to show his credibility, his other car is a ka-t S14 making over 400whp on race gas and is able to spin his drag radials down the 1320 shifting to 5th going 110+mph.
other v8's can run similar times, but i doubt any will touch his top end. most 12 second 5.0's in my school only traps in the mid 100mph range.
a 89 240sx with blown engine. $300
custom turbo manifold $300
T3 super 60 turbo $250
custom intercooler and piping $300
custom downpipe and exhuast $400
injectors and fuel controller $500 ( ebay )
junkyard sohc engine with tranny $200
clutch $300
drag radial $250
so thats a total of $2800. but since he has alot of those parts lying around his house, he actually has to spend less then $2500
he should run a high 12 and trap over 110mph. to show his credibility, his other car is a ka-t S14 making over 400whp on race gas and is able to spin his drag radials down the 1320 shifting to 5th going 110+mph.
other v8's can run similar times, but i doubt any will touch his top end. most 12 second 5.0's in my school only traps in the mid 100mph range.
dampachi
05-21-2005, 01:46 AM
high 12s @ 110mph+? at 110mph i'd think he should be running mid 12s.
TatII
05-21-2005, 02:32 AM
well thats all up to shifting speed and take off. of course its typical for imports to run a higher trap speed for the same 1/4 mile time. we just don't have the low end grunt of a v8. however we make up for it up top. of he has done mid 12's @110mph before in his other 240 so its all up to how good of a run he has. but still a mid 12 second car for $2500 is freaking cheap. of course the car doesnt' have matching color body panels and its pretty much a clunker, but thats not the point of it.
dampachi
05-21-2005, 03:05 AM
For imports? You mean for any small high revving motors? Normally FWD traps higher than RWD for the same ETs..but 240s are RWD.
-Josh-
05-21-2005, 10:57 AM
89 LeSabre T-Type- $2K
L67 Swap
Smaller Pulley
Chip
Headers
Finish somewhere around 5K and have close to or a little over 300 FWHP
L67 Swap
Smaller Pulley
Chip
Headers
Finish somewhere around 5K and have close to or a little over 300 FWHP
chexmixa
05-21-2005, 05:01 PM
honda civic 2,500
altezzas 100
universal wing 250
spinner hubcaps 25
muffler tip 25
electric mist ultra blue paintjob with an elaborate dragon painted on the side plus 34u324 stickers 2100
400fwhp. 9s.
Damn that shit will be fast.
Hmm
92-95 civic hatch 800
b18b block 1500
b18c heads 1500
tranny- 600
t3/t4 custom turbo set up 600
Suspension work 200
Depending on how much boost you run your looken at 210-230 hp
altezzas 100
universal wing 250
spinner hubcaps 25
muffler tip 25
electric mist ultra blue paintjob with an elaborate dragon painted on the side plus 34u324 stickers 2100
400fwhp. 9s.
Damn that shit will be fast.
Hmm
92-95 civic hatch 800
b18b block 1500
b18c heads 1500
tranny- 600
t3/t4 custom turbo set up 600
Suspension work 200
Depending on how much boost you run your looken at 210-230 hp
CassiesMan
05-21-2005, 06:12 PM
Borrow neighbor's son's Ferrari 550 Maranello-$4995
Slurpee-$5
Slurpee-$5
i3o2Matt
05-23-2005, 01:37 AM
Borrow neighbor's son's Ferrari 550 Maranello-$4995
Slurpee-$5
that is the best idea yet lol
Slurpee-$5
that is the best idea yet lol
dampachi
05-23-2005, 02:00 AM
Borrow neighbor's son's Ferrari 550 Maranello-$4995
Slurpee-$5
I agree.
Slurpee-$5
I agree.
Drifty
05-23-2005, 11:09 AM
ok i think i can catually do this get my buddy's 98 pontiac grand prix... free
rb26dett out of a r32 gtr complete with all wheel drive setup and 5 speed tranny with 46,000 miles on it ....$4999
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=33615&item=7975550983&rd=1
rb26dett out of a r32 gtr complete with all wheel drive setup and 5 speed tranny with 46,000 miles on it ....$4999
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=33615&item=7975550983&rd=1
i3o2Matt
05-23-2005, 11:21 AM
ok i think i can catually do this get my buddy's 98 pontiac grand prix... free
rb26dett out of a r32 gtr complete with all wheel drive setup and 5 speed tranny with 46,000 miles on it ....$4999
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=33615&item=7975550983&rd=1
you forgot that extra 100-250 in shipping :p
rb26dett out of a r32 gtr complete with all wheel drive setup and 5 speed tranny with 46,000 miles on it ....$4999
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=33615&item=7975550983&rd=1
you forgot that extra 100-250 in shipping :p
Drifty
05-23-2005, 12:40 PM
crap i tried hard and i was close
clawhammer
05-23-2005, 01:09 PM
ok i think i can catually do this get my buddy's 98 pontiac grand prix... free
rb26dett out of a r32 gtr complete with all wheel drive setup and 5 speed tranny with 46,000 miles on it ....$4999
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=33615&item=7975550983&rd=1
And don't forget all the custom modifications. Even the supplies will cost a lot. I doubt that a Grand Prix is the same length as a Skyline, so you'll probably have to custom make that driveshaft.
rb26dett out of a r32 gtr complete with all wheel drive setup and 5 speed tranny with 46,000 miles on it ....$4999
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=33615&item=7975550983&rd=1
And don't forget all the custom modifications. Even the supplies will cost a lot. I doubt that a Grand Prix is the same length as a Skyline, so you'll probably have to custom make that driveshaft.
banditkiller
05-23-2005, 07:50 PM
1. 86 rx-7 base model. 500
2. 306 motor with c4 trans. 50
3. Custom mounts for tranny and engine cradle . ~ 600
4. Afr 185's with rpm intake and a nice 750 holley. 1300
5. blood sweat and some painfull hands. free
6. 75 shot 800
7. Strip car down to front seats and dash
8 go to track ease off the line spray in second 3rd and go mid 10's .....
9 pray you dont break the poor stock rx-7 axles.
Edit. This is a ruff estimate that my car should run based on a few others expeirences. One man has gone a 9.98 @ 139 with the smae setup slicks and a 100 shot.
2. 306 motor with c4 trans. 50
3. Custom mounts for tranny and engine cradle . ~ 600
4. Afr 185's with rpm intake and a nice 750 holley. 1300
5. blood sweat and some painfull hands. free
6. 75 shot 800
7. Strip car down to front seats and dash
8 go to track ease off the line spray in second 3rd and go mid 10's .....
9 pray you dont break the poor stock rx-7 axles.
Edit. This is a ruff estimate that my car should run based on a few others expeirences. One man has gone a 9.98 @ 139 with the smae setup slicks and a 100 shot.
Amish_kid
05-24-2005, 12:27 AM
Go Kart Frame 50 bucks
turbo'd 'Busa Engine probably 4k or so
rest of the money in life insurance
Me = Teh Winnar!
turbo'd 'Busa Engine probably 4k or so
rest of the money in life insurance
Me = Teh Winnar!
clawhammer
05-24-2005, 12:40 AM
1. 86 rx-7 base model. 500
2. 306 motor with c4 trans. 50
3. Custom mounts for tranny and engine cradle . ~ 600
4. Afr 185's with rpm intake and a nice 750 holley. 1300
5. blood sweat and some painfull hands. free
6. 75 shot 800
7. Strip car down to front seats and dash
8 go to track ease off the line spray in second 3rd and go mid 10's .....
9 pray you dont break the poor stock rx-7 axles.
Edit. This is a ruff estimate that my car should run based on a few others expeirences. One man has gone a 9.98 @ 139 with the smae setup slicks and a 100 shot.
That's only $3250, but you still need to buy your slicks.
2. 306 motor with c4 trans. 50
3. Custom mounts for tranny and engine cradle . ~ 600
4. Afr 185's with rpm intake and a nice 750 holley. 1300
5. blood sweat and some painfull hands. free
6. 75 shot 800
7. Strip car down to front seats and dash
8 go to track ease off the line spray in second 3rd and go mid 10's .....
9 pray you dont break the poor stock rx-7 axles.
Edit. This is a ruff estimate that my car should run based on a few others expeirences. One man has gone a 9.98 @ 139 with the smae setup slicks and a 100 shot.
That's only $3250, but you still need to buy your slicks.
drftk1d
05-24-2005, 12:42 AM
wow, who would use stock n/a axles with nearly three times the torque of the stock motor? thats asking for broken parts.
CivRacer95
05-24-2005, 06:54 AM
Pfftt..,I'll take the $5000 and invest into stocks. Then 10 years from now, after the interest builds up real nicely, I'll buy and build up something much nicer and cheaper then. Gotta think towards the future ya know?
dampachi
05-24-2005, 09:17 AM
1. 86 rx-7 base model. 500
2. 306 motor with c4 trans. 50
3. Custom mounts for tranny and engine cradle . ~ 600
4. Afr 185's with rpm intake and a nice 750 holley. 1300
5. blood sweat and some painfull hands. free
6. 75 shot 800
7. Strip car down to front seats and dash
8 go to track ease off the line spray in second 3rd and go mid 10's .....
9 pray you dont break the poor stock rx-7 axles.
Edit. This is a ruff estimate that my car should run based on a few others expeirences. One man has gone a 9.98 @ 139 with the smae setup slicks and a 100 shot.
Sounds like bullshit to me unless he had suspension and a built rear. And where you gonna get a motor and transmission for $50? And theres so much more you'd need to make that work. You really can't build a fast car with $5,000. Just a temporary toy.
2. 306 motor with c4 trans. 50
3. Custom mounts for tranny and engine cradle . ~ 600
4. Afr 185's with rpm intake and a nice 750 holley. 1300
5. blood sweat and some painfull hands. free
6. 75 shot 800
7. Strip car down to front seats and dash
8 go to track ease off the line spray in second 3rd and go mid 10's .....
9 pray you dont break the poor stock rx-7 axles.
Edit. This is a ruff estimate that my car should run based on a few others expeirences. One man has gone a 9.98 @ 139 with the smae setup slicks and a 100 shot.
Sounds like bullshit to me unless he had suspension and a built rear. And where you gonna get a motor and transmission for $50? And theres so much more you'd need to make that work. You really can't build a fast car with $5,000. Just a temporary toy.
clawhammer
05-24-2005, 09:32 AM
Sounds like bullshit to me unless he had suspension and a built rear. And where you gonna get a motor and transmission for $50? And theres so much more you'd need to make that work. You really can't build a fast car with $5,000. Just a temporary toy.
Yes and no. It depends on how fast you want to go. High 12s low 13s, 5k is enough and it will last a pretty long time. But if your definition of fast is 10s, you might get like a couple of runs for $5k
Yes and no. It depends on how fast you want to go. High 12s low 13s, 5k is enough and it will last a pretty long time. But if your definition of fast is 10s, you might get like a couple of runs for $5k
dampachi
05-24-2005, 01:10 PM
$5,000 can get you a reliable mid 13 second car. From my experience, thats what I have found to be true.
Polygon
05-24-2005, 06:55 PM
1989 Chrysler LeBaron GTC: $600
Full 3" mandrel bent exhaust, downpipe, and sv: $750
Turbos Unleashed custom thermal coated header: $500
Mopar Performance +40 injectors: $152
Walbro 255 l/hr high pressure fuel pump: $120
FWD Performance stage 4 ECU: $185
3 bar MAP sensor: $75
Spearco 1,080 CFM FMIC: $550
Modified 1st generation DSM shift valve: $45
Apexi intake: $185
Garrett GT28RS dual ball bearing turbo (disco potato): $1,600
That comes to $4,762 and the rest would be eaten up with hardware like T-clamps, silicone couplers, and intake tubing. Anyhow, that would all be good for around 350-400 WHP at 30 PSI. Wheel torque would be close to 500 or more. They are VERY torquy motors. That would be good for at least low 11s in the 1/4. If I had another $1,500 for headwork that would probably break it into the 10s.
Full 3" mandrel bent exhaust, downpipe, and sv: $750
Turbos Unleashed custom thermal coated header: $500
Mopar Performance +40 injectors: $152
Walbro 255 l/hr high pressure fuel pump: $120
FWD Performance stage 4 ECU: $185
3 bar MAP sensor: $75
Spearco 1,080 CFM FMIC: $550
Modified 1st generation DSM shift valve: $45
Apexi intake: $185
Garrett GT28RS dual ball bearing turbo (disco potato): $1,600
That comes to $4,762 and the rest would be eaten up with hardware like T-clamps, silicone couplers, and intake tubing. Anyhow, that would all be good for around 350-400 WHP at 30 PSI. Wheel torque would be close to 500 or more. They are VERY torquy motors. That would be good for at least low 11s in the 1/4. If I had another $1,500 for headwork that would probably break it into the 10s.
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