from stock...to rocket!
gstKillerRed07
05-14-2005, 12:12 AM
I'm going to pick up a compleatly stock GS-T and make it BAD! I want to know the best of the best mods and the order they should be done! Cost is no object! Hopefully going to be running mid 9's to high 8's when this bad boy is done! Lets see what you all can come up with!
97_3clipse
05-14-2005, 12:31 AM
step 1) sell the GST and buy a GSX.....
JoeWagon
05-14-2005, 12:41 AM
I'm going to pick up a compleatly stock GS-T and make it BAD! I want to know the best of the best mods and the order they should be done! Cost is no object! Hopefully going to be running mid 9's to high 8's when this bad boy is done! Lets see what you all can come up with!
Buy a car that already runs 9's, you won't do it. No joke, if you don't know HOW to do it, you are so far away from 9's its not even funny. Get a 1g GSX to run 12's first.
Buy a car that already runs 9's, you won't do it. No joke, if you don't know HOW to do it, you are so far away from 9's its not even funny. Get a 1g GSX to run 12's first.
guitarXgeek
05-14-2005, 10:44 AM
Buy a car that already runs 9's, you won't do it. No joke, if you don't know HOW to do it, you are so far away from 9's its not even funny. Get a 1g GSX to run 12's first.
:werd: How can you POSSIBLY ask how to run 9's (and 8's is absolutely out of the question for you right now) when you haven't even ran 12's yet?! http://www.dsmtuners.com/tuning-guide/2gturbo/ <--- set up a parts list of what you think you'll need to get into the 12's/high 11's and then check back with us. It takes a LOT of knowledge, experience, and awesome driving/tuning just to run low 11's in a full weight 2g. It may be slightly easier if you gutted it out, but just try to get the basics down first.
Start with low 12's as a goal, then work your way up as your driving/tuning/experience grows :)
:werd: How can you POSSIBLY ask how to run 9's (and 8's is absolutely out of the question for you right now) when you haven't even ran 12's yet?! http://www.dsmtuners.com/tuning-guide/2gturbo/ <--- set up a parts list of what you think you'll need to get into the 12's/high 11's and then check back with us. It takes a LOT of knowledge, experience, and awesome driving/tuning just to run low 11's in a full weight 2g. It may be slightly easier if you gutted it out, but just try to get the basics down first.
Start with low 12's as a goal, then work your way up as your driving/tuning/experience grows :)
drewh4386
05-14-2005, 12:45 PM
Just from reading, I found out to run 9's and below, you need at least 800hp
gstKillerRed07
05-14-2005, 01:31 PM
ok, guys, I asked for what setups work the best from you guys, you just assume that i have no clue what I'm doing, This will be my 3ed Project car, and 5th DSM, and i just want to know the best of the best from the consumer point of view, if you dont think 9's are possible, then you are dumb! And, if there was an AWD for sale, ANYWHERE ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH, i would have bought it! an awd conversion on a 99 gst isnt too hard so it will be an awd if needed...now if you guys dont mind, make the list, and hopefully this will turn into a forum to answer all modd fourms questions!
alphalanos
05-14-2005, 01:33 PM
you cant spell 3rd, i wouldnt even trust you near my lowly honda.
there are tons of gsx for sale....
there are tons of gsx for sale....
TsiTalon9587
05-14-2005, 01:47 PM
You'll need at least a t-67, 1600 cc, aem ems, race rods (groden or similar), not ones you can use on the street. Nitrous would help too.....Good luck with FWD.
drewh4386
05-14-2005, 02:13 PM
ok, guys, I asked for what setups work the best from you guys, you just assume that i have no clue what I'm doing, This will be my 3ed Project car, and 5th DSM, and i just want to know the best of the best from the consumer point of view, if you dont think 9's are possible, then you are dumb! And, if there was an AWD for sale, ANYWHERE ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH, i would have bought it! an awd conversion on a 99 gst isnt too hard so it will be an awd if needed...now if you guys dont mind, make the list, and hopefully this will turn into a forum to answer all modd fourms questions!Dude running 9's on a eclipse is so 5+years ago. I would also suggest a weight reduced car...alot. Also race built transmission. Spark plugs, 3-4 in exhaust and i/c piping and last but not least.......race gas!
TsiTalon9587
05-14-2005, 03:31 PM
Dude running 9's on a eclipse is so 5+years ago. I would also suggest a weight reduced car...alot. Also race built transmission. Spark plugs, 3-4 in exhaust and i/c piping and last but not least.......race gas!
Are you being sarcastic?
Are you being sarcastic?
drewh4386
05-14-2005, 03:57 PM
Are you being sarcastic?
That didn't come out right. I was refering to when he said if you dont think 9's are possible then you are dumb! which is true.
Which i meant was 9's have been accomplished by eclipses at least 5+ years ago.
Read the mag D-Sport (i think) and they have a 1236 hp eclipse that runs 7's (or 8's I think)
That didn't come out right. I was refering to when he said if you dont think 9's are possible then you are dumb! which is true.
Which i meant was 9's have been accomplished by eclipses at least 5+ years ago.
Read the mag D-Sport (i think) and they have a 1236 hp eclipse that runs 7's (or 8's I think)
viet_boiiiii
05-14-2005, 04:26 PM
2.4L motor and bore and ported
Slow Boy Racing GT35R turbo
Big front mount intercooler
1600cc
any boost controller
boost/fuel/temp/knock/oil gauge's
3inch downpipe with no cat or exhaust
AWD conversion
DSMlink
SFAC
Racing cams
motor mounts
eagle rods
aftermarket pistons
if your not gona go awd gst then go LSD (qualife)
strip interior all the way to 1 seat
carbon fiber the whole body of eclipse
remove stock air box
hard intake pipe w/ KN filter
250 walbro pump
Shep tranny
or buy a 1g awd and spend at least 5-6 g's to make it run 10's maybe 9's
Slow Boy Racing GT35R turbo
Big front mount intercooler
1600cc
any boost controller
boost/fuel/temp/knock/oil gauge's
3inch downpipe with no cat or exhaust
AWD conversion
DSMlink
SFAC
Racing cams
motor mounts
eagle rods
aftermarket pistons
if your not gona go awd gst then go LSD (qualife)
strip interior all the way to 1 seat
carbon fiber the whole body of eclipse
remove stock air box
hard intake pipe w/ KN filter
250 walbro pump
Shep tranny
or buy a 1g awd and spend at least 5-6 g's to make it run 10's maybe 9's
guitarXgeek
05-14-2005, 05:54 PM
Yea, DSMs have been running 9s for a couple years now, but how many do you know that do it repeatedly? Who are these names? I'll answer it for you, they are people who have been racing DSMs since they hit the market.
Since you think 9's should be so simple, please, show me a low 11 second timeslip first :) Even then, you are a LONG way away from 9's. Either way, good luck.
Since you think 9's should be so simple, please, show me a low 11 second timeslip first :) Even then, you are a LONG way away from 9's. Either way, good luck.
JoeWagon
05-14-2005, 06:24 PM
ok, guys, I asked for what setups work the best from you guys, you just assume that i have no clue what I'm doing, This will be my 3ed Project car, and 5th DSM, and i just want to know the best of the best from the consumer point of view, if you dont think 9's are possible, then you are dumb! And, if there was an AWD for sale, ANYWHERE ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH, i would have bought it! an awd conversion on a 99 gst isnt too hard so it will be an awd if needed...now if you guys dont mind, make the list, and hopefully this will turn into a forum to answer all modd fourms questions!
I didn't say 9's were not possible, I said you won't be running 9's. 95 GSXracer has a 95 GSX for sale RIGHT NOW. LandoAWD has a 92 AWD for sale RIGHT NOW, both on this site. Marco from Magnus Motorsports said he might sell his 9 second (green?) car. If you are loaded, do it the easy way.
Here's the thing. If you want to be fast, you have to talk to the guys who do it. Except... they won't talk to you because you sound like a fool coming to a basic DSM forum telling us that you will be faster than all of us, but yet you don't know how to do it. Call me dumb again, because I haven't been listening to the guys that run 8's and 9's for years. You aren't there yet.
I didn't say 9's were not possible, I said you won't be running 9's. 95 GSXracer has a 95 GSX for sale RIGHT NOW. LandoAWD has a 92 AWD for sale RIGHT NOW, both on this site. Marco from Magnus Motorsports said he might sell his 9 second (green?) car. If you are loaded, do it the easy way.
Here's the thing. If you want to be fast, you have to talk to the guys who do it. Except... they won't talk to you because you sound like a fool coming to a basic DSM forum telling us that you will be faster than all of us, but yet you don't know how to do it. Call me dumb again, because I haven't been listening to the guys that run 8's and 9's for years. You aren't there yet.
EclipseRST
05-14-2005, 09:19 PM
Ok for one... YOU ARE NOT GOING TO RUN 9's IN ANY FWD in the next few years so start researching. Two... To run a 9 in FWD you would have to have about 300hp up and over John shepherd who already runs a low 8, traps enough to run a 7.
2.4L motor and bore and ported
Slow Boy Racing GT35R turbo
Big front mount intercooler
1600cc
any boost controller
boost/fuel/temp/knock/oil gauge's
3inch downpipe with no cat or exhaust
AWD conversion
DSMlink
SFAC
Racing cams
motor mounts
eagle rods
aftermarket pistons
if your not gona go awd gst then go LSD (qualife)
strip interior all the way to 1 seat
carbon fiber the whole body of eclipse
remove stock air box
hard intake pipe w/ KN filter
250 walbro pump
Shep tranny
or buy a 1g awd and spend at least 5-6 g's to make it run 10's maybe 9's
Your not going to run a 9 on a GT35R unless the car weighs less than 2k lbs.
You wont need an SAFC. Not possible.
Eagle rods wont even come close to holding up.
1- Walbro pump isnt going to happen. You most likly will need atleast 2.
The amount of money and time its going to take to make a FWD DSM run that time is just insane. Expecially when you start talking about the suspension and safty features you need just to run at the track. Then you need to find a turbo that isnt going to lag (good luck) too much so you can actually get a good launch in but not spin all the way down the track. Then the fuel to support it and the motor to handle it. I bet by the time your done you have 50k into a FWD that only runs 9s. Hope you got deep pockets.
2.4L motor and bore and ported
Slow Boy Racing GT35R turbo
Big front mount intercooler
1600cc
any boost controller
boost/fuel/temp/knock/oil gauge's
3inch downpipe with no cat or exhaust
AWD conversion
DSMlink
SFAC
Racing cams
motor mounts
eagle rods
aftermarket pistons
if your not gona go awd gst then go LSD (qualife)
strip interior all the way to 1 seat
carbon fiber the whole body of eclipse
remove stock air box
hard intake pipe w/ KN filter
250 walbro pump
Shep tranny
or buy a 1g awd and spend at least 5-6 g's to make it run 10's maybe 9's
Your not going to run a 9 on a GT35R unless the car weighs less than 2k lbs.
You wont need an SAFC. Not possible.
Eagle rods wont even come close to holding up.
1- Walbro pump isnt going to happen. You most likly will need atleast 2.
The amount of money and time its going to take to make a FWD DSM run that time is just insane. Expecially when you start talking about the suspension and safty features you need just to run at the track. Then you need to find a turbo that isnt going to lag (good luck) too much so you can actually get a good launch in but not spin all the way down the track. Then the fuel to support it and the motor to handle it. I bet by the time your done you have 50k into a FWD that only runs 9s. Hope you got deep pockets.
GSXracerGuy
05-14-2005, 10:04 PM
Why the hell would you even have a wanting to work on a FWD that much...that's retarded....are you retarded? I don't even have anything close to enough racing knowledge as most people do with DSM's but I know that I wouldn't want to put all that money into a damn FWD...damn
gstKillerRed07
05-15-2005, 12:27 PM
LOL i got 1 list...out of all that? HAHA you guys make me laugh, And i would buy A GSX but, i dont want to have to go out of state to get it, i want something close... pluse, this is going to be a project car, and has nothing to do with FWD of EXPENCES, its about having fun, if u guys this the retarted to try and challenge your cars ability, to try and prove people like you wrong, and have fun doing it, they YOU guys are not "car people" HAHA, are you all Retarded? This is AUTOMOTIVE forums, not "bitch and wine at someone becaue what they are trying to do is theoretically impossible" forums... and thank you *viet_boiiiii* for at least answering the orignal question. the rest of you, are sad, sad people...thinking you know about cars, when u dont even know what a challenge is...and you forgot FUN to! HAHA
clipsekid99
05-15-2005, 12:33 PM
LOL i got 1 list...out of all that? HAHA you guys make me laugh, And i would buy A GSX but, i dont want to have to go out of state to get it, i want something close... pluse, this is going to be a project car, and has nothing to do with FWD of EXPENCES, its about having fun, if u guys this the retarted to try and challenge your cars ability, to try and prove people like you wrong, and have fun doing it, they YOU guys are not "car people" HAHA, are you all Retarded? This is AUTOMOTIVE forums, not "bitch and wine at someone becaue what they are trying to do is theoretically impossible" forums... and thank you *viet_boiiiii* for at least answering the orignal question. the rest of you, are sad, sad people...thinking you know about cars, when u dont even know what a challenge is...and you forgot FUN to! HAHA
I think you're the retarded one lol. If you are going to post, you should make yourself seem more mature, and use proper grammar and punctuation. THEN, maybe someone might take you seriously.
I think you're the retarded one lol. If you are going to post, you should make yourself seem more mature, and use proper grammar and punctuation. THEN, maybe someone might take you seriously.
viet_boiiiii
05-15-2005, 12:38 PM
gstKillerRed07 All of the people in here are true about runing a gst into 9's. If u can prove that u can do it than u will have more respect from these people because its proven that gst are very hard to reach 9's 10's if possible without wasteing so much money. And isnt this idea pretty dumb? Wasting over 50k into a car to make it run 9's when u can buy a car and spend a fraction of that to make it run 9-10's. They're just saying whats true and whats not.
JoeWagon
05-15-2005, 03:34 PM
LOL i got 1 list...out of all that? HAHA you guys make me laugh, And i would buy A GSX but, i dont want to have to go out of state to get it, i want something close... pluse, this is going to be a project car, and has nothing to do with FWD of EXPENCES, its about having fun, if u guys this the retarted to try and challenge your cars ability, to try and prove people like you wrong, and have fun doing it, they YOU guys are not "car people" HAHA, are you all Retarded? This is AUTOMOTIVE forums, not "bitch and wine at someone becaue what they are trying to do is theoretically impossible" forums... and thank you *viet_boiiiii* for at least answering the orignal question. the rest of you, are sad, sad people...thinking you know about cars, when u dont even know what a challenge is...and you forgot FUN to! HAHA
So you come to my forum asking questions, probably because you are 15 years old with no budget... and when I tell you the truth you get upset. Fuck off.
So you come to my forum asking questions, probably because you are 15 years old with no budget... and when I tell you the truth you get upset. Fuck off.
guitarXgeek
05-15-2005, 03:44 PM
So you come to my forum asking questions, probably because you are 15 years old with no budget... and when I tell you the truth you get upset. Fuck off.
:cheers: Thank you.
:cheers: Thank you.
kjewer1
05-16-2005, 08:14 AM
LOL i got 1 list...out of all that? HAHA you guys make me laugh, And i would buy A GSX but, i dont want to have to go out of state to get it, i want something close... pluse, this is going to be a project car, and has nothing to do with FWD of EXPENCES, its about having fun, if u guys this the retarted to try and challenge your cars ability, to try and prove people like you wrong, and have fun doing it, they YOU guys are not "car people" HAHA, are you all Retarded? This is AUTOMOTIVE forums, not "bitch and wine at someone becaue what they are trying to do is theoretically impossible" forums... and thank you *viet_boiiiii* for at least answering the orignal question. the rest of you, are sad, sad people...thinking you know about cars, when u dont even know what a challenge is...and you forgot FUN to! HAHA
Please unfuck your attitude, then come back in 5 years. If you dont like our opinions, go fist yourself.
No one with a fast car acts like a 15 year old. Coincidence? Probably not. The only real problem I had with the original post is that the same thing always comes from topics like this. Exactly nothing. No one posting about a parts list for a 9 second car ever comes back and says "hey guys, thanks for that list, I have a 9 second car now." Its not worth the time. 90% of the reason is that the parts list is only 10% of the equation.
Please unfuck your attitude, then come back in 5 years. If you dont like our opinions, go fist yourself.
No one with a fast car acts like a 15 year old. Coincidence? Probably not. The only real problem I had with the original post is that the same thing always comes from topics like this. Exactly nothing. No one posting about a parts list for a 9 second car ever comes back and says "hey guys, thanks for that list, I have a 9 second car now." Its not worth the time. 90% of the reason is that the parts list is only 10% of the equation.
EclipseRST
05-16-2005, 02:09 PM
Personally, the way I see it, we cant make a parts list for you... Look at recent posts, even my posts about running times. People post up a parts list and ask if they a good supporting mods to a certain time or hp goal of theirs. You cant just come on here or go up to the best most experianced person in the world and say, "Hey, I want to run 9s. What do I need?" He will most like respond "Stop watching the Fast and the Furious and get into the 12s first, then go for 11s and 10s. When you reach that then start worring about 9s!" You cant just buy a shit tone of parts that will support a 9 second run, slap them on a car and have it run that. There is a lot more to it, like the driver, tuning, and getting the car to stay together. Do more searching, then get the car, then start asking how to achieve smaller goals. Its fine to set huge goals at first but it will take a long ass time to achieve them!
2of9
05-16-2005, 08:31 PM
dude, i think he meant the 9s/ high 8s in the 1/8 mile...hahahah...but hell, who knows? 9s are possible if you have a seven digit salary tho. Well, to that guy, good luck. You have better chances of hitting the 11s street driven.
drewh4386
05-16-2005, 08:41 PM
That guy was watching to much of that movie. You know which one I talking about. Anyway, If he ever comes back, tell him to make sure that he uses big slicks.
hellah fresh
05-18-2005, 04:23 PM
hey my Rs does 9's high 8's what are you all talkinga bout huh??? Yeah thats right! 9's + 9 more Lol
metalhedskater
05-18-2005, 11:36 PM
damn didnt take too long for him to be banned, huh?
91 Eclipse
05-19-2005, 06:24 PM
Well since all you guys were talking about 15 year olds, I'm 15 and none of you guys have said anything to me but JoeWagon gave me shit before and I learned not to act like a little kid and grow the fuck up and stop being a little bitch about everything.
firedemonlord89
05-20-2005, 01:45 AM
you wish u had deep pockets to make your car in the 9's
kjewer1
05-20-2005, 07:52 AM
Might as well let this thread die off and pass into oblivion...
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05-20-2005, 07:42 PM
This is off-topic, but: Jake, your car is fucking clean.
Whathits14
05-31-2005, 02:34 AM
Haha I say let him go with the setup listed here and watch him cry when he blows up his fucking car trying to pump 1300hp out of a engine with eagle rods. I've never seen a fwd (dsm) break 10s...if its been done someone please, enlighten me.
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