Wars
a007apl
04-11-2002, 06:40 AM
Ssom
04-11-2002, 06:48 AM
where the fuck is this thread going????
a007apl
04-11-2002, 06:53 AM
Originally posted by Moss1O6GTi
where the fuck is this thread going????
I hate Wars:angryfire , this is one ALERT O K!
where the fuck is this thread going????
I hate Wars:angryfire , this is one ALERT O K!
Ssom
04-11-2002, 07:13 AM
Oh I see
I hate wars as well, they solve fuck all
I hate wars as well, they solve fuck all
moondog
04-11-2002, 04:22 PM
that is a really really powerful picture; and very distressing too. :(
kris
04-11-2002, 04:59 PM
haha, thats great.
MBTN
04-11-2002, 06:45 PM
That would be a scary sight to see. This would be even scarier. :cool:
S Brake
04-11-2002, 08:01 PM
Originally posted by kbslacker
haha, thats great. LOL, you crack me up!:hehe:
haha, thats great. LOL, you crack me up!:hehe:
NismoDrifts
04-11-2002, 08:51 PM
MECHWARRIOR!!! YES!!!!!!!! wow.....*realizes how much of a nerd i am*
anyway, im not against war. There are very many times where aggressive force is the only way out. I mean, as they say if you dont stand for something youll fall for anything. Sure tons of people die and thats unfortunate, but war is about the people that live, and to ensure those people live with whatever goal accomplished that the soldiers sought to achieve. Also some of the greatest scientific advancements were made or directly related to occurences in war *ww2 specifically*
Still the fact that people die shows that you cant eat your cake and have it too............(by the way that is the correct way of saying that, not have your cake and eat it too because that is possible.......just one of my pet peeves......like when people say "i could care less" that means you care to some degree...........ok im out now before i get too offtopic)
anyway, im not against war. There are very many times where aggressive force is the only way out. I mean, as they say if you dont stand for something youll fall for anything. Sure tons of people die and thats unfortunate, but war is about the people that live, and to ensure those people live with whatever goal accomplished that the soldiers sought to achieve. Also some of the greatest scientific advancements were made or directly related to occurences in war *ww2 specifically*
Still the fact that people die shows that you cant eat your cake and have it too............(by the way that is the correct way of saying that, not have your cake and eat it too because that is possible.......just one of my pet peeves......like when people say "i could care less" that means you care to some degree...........ok im out now before i get too offtopic)
a007apl
04-11-2002, 08:59 PM
I've nš 2,3 and 4 , in my opinion , MECHWARRIOR
3 is the Best,and,who Play with me on multiplayer,I Seek & Destroy because ...:jump: ....i'm the Best:D
3 is the Best,and,who Play with me on multiplayer,I Seek & Destroy because ...:jump: ....i'm the Best:D
a007apl
04-11-2002, 09:09 PM
And i've Mech Commander too
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/632894mech001.jpg
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/632894mech001.jpg
Ssom
04-11-2002, 10:27 PM
Originally posted by MBTN
That would be a scary sight to see. This would be even scarier. :cool:
And you wonder why you are still single :finger: :finger:
Please note the :D in:finger:
That would be a scary sight to see. This would be even scarier. :cool:
And you wonder why you are still single :finger: :finger:
Please note the :D in:finger:
moondog
04-11-2002, 10:37 PM
Originally posted by NismoDrifts
anyway, im not against war. There are very many times where aggressive force is the only way out. I mean, as they say if you dont stand for something youll fall for anything. Sure tons of people die and thats unfortunate, but war is about the people that live, and to ensure those people live with whatever goal accomplished that the soldiers sought to achieve. Also some of the greatest scientific advancements were made or directly related to occurences in war *ww2 specifically*[/B]
War doesn't accomplish anything that's worth all the deaths. Especially considering that most (or more likely all) of the deaths are of people who don't know or understand the issues, but have been forced or brainwashed into fighting. It always comes down to politics/personal power/someone wants a bigger sand-pit to play in. Yes there are a lot of technological advancements - mostly in how to kill more people more quickly. Ok there are others; but as I said earlier, I don't believe they are worth all the deaths and destruction.
"...the soldiers sought to achieve."??????? :eek: Like I said, the soldiers aren't seeking anything except to avoid getting killed, and hoping like hell they actually make it home alive to see their family again.
It's just not worth it. The people who actually want the war should line up in a big field, armed with hand-to-hand weapons, so they can't ignore what they're doing to their "enemies", and sort it out themselves, without involving anyone else.
The terrorist attacks of September 11 were acts of war. Ok, a different kind of war from what we usually think of, but these people saw themselves as being at war with the US, and could provide plenty of what was to them, justification of what they did - because they were (to paraphrase you) seeking to achieve something. What they did was wrong. I don't accept any system of belief that would say that their actions were not wrong. BUT, it was war - just a different kind.
War is wrong.
anyway, im not against war. There are very many times where aggressive force is the only way out. I mean, as they say if you dont stand for something youll fall for anything. Sure tons of people die and thats unfortunate, but war is about the people that live, and to ensure those people live with whatever goal accomplished that the soldiers sought to achieve. Also some of the greatest scientific advancements were made or directly related to occurences in war *ww2 specifically*[/B]
War doesn't accomplish anything that's worth all the deaths. Especially considering that most (or more likely all) of the deaths are of people who don't know or understand the issues, but have been forced or brainwashed into fighting. It always comes down to politics/personal power/someone wants a bigger sand-pit to play in. Yes there are a lot of technological advancements - mostly in how to kill more people more quickly. Ok there are others; but as I said earlier, I don't believe they are worth all the deaths and destruction.
"...the soldiers sought to achieve."??????? :eek: Like I said, the soldiers aren't seeking anything except to avoid getting killed, and hoping like hell they actually make it home alive to see their family again.
It's just not worth it. The people who actually want the war should line up in a big field, armed with hand-to-hand weapons, so they can't ignore what they're doing to their "enemies", and sort it out themselves, without involving anyone else.
The terrorist attacks of September 11 were acts of war. Ok, a different kind of war from what we usually think of, but these people saw themselves as being at war with the US, and could provide plenty of what was to them, justification of what they did - because they were (to paraphrase you) seeking to achieve something. What they did was wrong. I don't accept any system of belief that would say that their actions were not wrong. BUT, it was war - just a different kind.
War is wrong.
87accordlxi
04-12-2002, 03:15 AM
ohhhh i can see this thread is destined for failure...
taranaki
04-12-2002, 09:11 AM
Arms manufacturers and some politicians are the only people who benefit from wars.If wars actually solved anything, all of the world's territorial problems would have gone away by now.
YogsVR4
04-12-2002, 10:47 AM
Originally posted by moondog
War doesn't accomplish anything that's worth all the deaths. Especially considering that most (or more likely all) of the deaths are of people who don't know or understand the issues, but have been forced or brainwashed into fighting. It always comes down to politics/personal power/someone wants a bigger sand-pit to play in. Yes there are a lot of technological advancements - mostly in how to kill more people more quickly. Ok there are others; but as I said earlier, I don't believe they are worth all the deaths and destruction.
"...the soldiers sought to achieve."??????? :eek: Like I said, the soldiers aren't seeking anything except to avoid getting killed, and hoping like hell they actually make it home alive to see their family again.
It's just not worth it. The people who actually want the war should line up in a big field, armed with hand-to-hand weapons, so they can't ignore what they're doing to their "enemies", and sort it out themselves, without involving anyone else.
The terrorist attacks of September 11 were acts of war. Ok, a different kind of war from what we usually think of, but these people saw themselves as being at war with the US, and could provide plenty of what was to them, justification of what they did - because they were (to paraphrase you) seeking to achieve something. What they did was wrong. I don't accept any system of belief that would say that their actions were not wrong. BUT, it was war - just a different kind.
War is wrong.
Cool! I want everyone else to think this way and then POW - I'll threaten to wage war on the world and since they all refuse to defend themselves, I'll own it all. Everything will be mine mine mine!!! (actually it is all mine now, I just freely loan out almost all of it)
This is great news! People are stupid because they dont know what they are fighting for. People just dont understand whats happening. These poor souls are sitting around all day waiting for the high and mighty to tell them what to think and what to do.
Sorry, my sarcasm is turning into disbelief.
Wars are fought for two reasons. Either someone is out for gain (similiar to stated above) or its fought because someone is attacking you. (self defense) We'll never be rid of the first one so unless your a spineless coward or French style capitulator, wars will be fought.
War doesn't accomplish anything that's worth all the deaths. Especially considering that most (or more likely all) of the deaths are of people who don't know or understand the issues, but have been forced or brainwashed into fighting. It always comes down to politics/personal power/someone wants a bigger sand-pit to play in. Yes there are a lot of technological advancements - mostly in how to kill more people more quickly. Ok there are others; but as I said earlier, I don't believe they are worth all the deaths and destruction.
"...the soldiers sought to achieve."??????? :eek: Like I said, the soldiers aren't seeking anything except to avoid getting killed, and hoping like hell they actually make it home alive to see their family again.
It's just not worth it. The people who actually want the war should line up in a big field, armed with hand-to-hand weapons, so they can't ignore what they're doing to their "enemies", and sort it out themselves, without involving anyone else.
The terrorist attacks of September 11 were acts of war. Ok, a different kind of war from what we usually think of, but these people saw themselves as being at war with the US, and could provide plenty of what was to them, justification of what they did - because they were (to paraphrase you) seeking to achieve something. What they did was wrong. I don't accept any system of belief that would say that their actions were not wrong. BUT, it was war - just a different kind.
War is wrong.
Cool! I want everyone else to think this way and then POW - I'll threaten to wage war on the world and since they all refuse to defend themselves, I'll own it all. Everything will be mine mine mine!!! (actually it is all mine now, I just freely loan out almost all of it)
This is great news! People are stupid because they dont know what they are fighting for. People just dont understand whats happening. These poor souls are sitting around all day waiting for the high and mighty to tell them what to think and what to do.
Sorry, my sarcasm is turning into disbelief.
Wars are fought for two reasons. Either someone is out for gain (similiar to stated above) or its fought because someone is attacking you. (self defense) We'll never be rid of the first one so unless your a spineless coward or French style capitulator, wars will be fought.
Sham365
04-12-2002, 10:50 AM
LOL
NismoDrifts
04-12-2002, 04:02 PM
awww sham doesnt agree with us!
now, take what sham did, it can be considered an act of aggression. So in disagreeing he further proved my point that war and violence is in human nature, and will always happen.
As yog stated you can defend or die.
As for the people knowing they arent fighting and most of the stuff you said, its case specific, i believe we dont need any explanation or examples of that, but yeah
now, take what sham did, it can be considered an act of aggression. So in disagreeing he further proved my point that war and violence is in human nature, and will always happen.
As yog stated you can defend or die.
As for the people knowing they arent fighting and most of the stuff you said, its case specific, i believe we dont need any explanation or examples of that, but yeah
NismoDrifts
04-12-2002, 04:04 PM
sorry about the knowing they arent fighting thing, been a long day...what i meant to say "not knowing the true purpose for which they are fighting" or not truly believing in it but doing it for thier facist govt. (ya know, like the US and all :rolleyes: )
ac427cpe
04-14-2002, 02:05 AM
i thought that war was always after a political gain (aside from total war)
taranaki
04-14-2002, 02:23 AM
Originally posted by NismoDrifts
awww sham doesnt agree with us!
not sure who it is he's disagreeing with.......:confused:
nice pic though..:rolleyes:
awww sham doesnt agree with us!
not sure who it is he's disagreeing with.......:confused:
nice pic though..:rolleyes:
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