how to drift with no lsd?

i have a 96 240 base model. just started drifting and have no idea how to start. when it rains i just spin around in parking lots but dont know the right way. any ideas? all i do is just accelerate from 1st to 2nd gear then turn make the car swerve then just step clutch then accelerate. thanks.

1st, get a lsd

2nd, practice

you dont need an LSD. if, however, you have no suspension mods you will have a very tough time of it. i suggest AT LEAST getting rear subframe spacers (if you find some for a 300ZX they will work too, same rear subframe) but those spacers tighten up the rear end a lot and help a great deal. second it is easier for me to drift actual turns instead of just going crazy in a parking lot. but the basic idea is if you arent really going into a slide go faster lol. once you are sideways you need to figure out the steering to keep you sideways. good luck and dont crash.

no lsd = why bother.

i suggest you download the drift bible. or buy it if you want to learn. Dont go directly into a turn. Thats a bad recomendation. And dont just go crazy in a parking lot either. you need to learn how the car feels sliding. And dont go in second gear just yet. Get first gear drifts down, then progress to 2nd gear. Just get the god damn drift bible so i can stfu. It teaches you to become the next D1 competitor!!!!! Get as much seat time as possible and as much used tires as possible. And werent you complaining about hitting a dog earlier??? Might as well get used to dings and dents and new body parts. I would suggest gettinga s13. CHEAPER to deal with.

thats bullshit it is entirely possible to drift with no lsd. in the rain i doubt it makes much of a difference at all if you have it or not and in dry pavement you just have to go faster.

watch the drift bible they actually tell u to start off w/ no lsd and get the basicas down w/ no lsd and once you have the basics such as a hand brake 90 turn and 180 and a few other things down then you should get a lsd. my advice is study the drift bible religiously(no pun intended) get down the basics then get a lsd and im w/ O up there practiceing in the rain as a beginner is a good thing it gives you the feel

no one said it wasnt possible to drift without an lsd. So i dont see the bullshit.

I just said why bother, your going to need one anyways. Might as well learn with it, than without. It will require you to change a little technique going from without to with. So thats my opinion. Might as well get used to 2 wheels hooking up as opposed to one, since you will never be using a open diff. anyways. So why learn what you will never use? But since he doesnt have one anyways, you might as well just practice it without one until you get one.

yeah the why bother part. i say bother with it and fuck around in the rain because its hella fun and the main part is the countersteering (well maybe not main part but at least a 50/50 split with throttle control)

yea as in your agreeing with me??

ANd yea the throttle thing is a biggie. Most people prolly mash it to the floor at first. If you let off and slowly steer the car, you will notice you have more control. Start with controlled donuts. You'll get the steering/throttle thing down.

stopming the gas to get sideways is good for underpowered cars like a stock ka. its best to get the basics then get lsd

yes but once you start "spinning" the tires, you dont have to keep the throttle mashed.

main thing is being able to control the weight of the car.

Stiffen the chassis before anything...

Teh way I always found it easy to initiate a drift is to get on the same side of the road as the apex of the turn is on and then make a very sharp swerve towards the other side. Obviously before you go off the road (duh?) cut the wheel back sharply, but not much more than you would to go around the turn or you will severely oversteer and spin out. Downshift at eh same time and punch it. You shoulc initiate a drift. Now just keep control fo the throttle and aim the front tires where you wanna go. Throttle control is key. If you begin to oversteer, let off the gas a little until the car corrects. If you begin to straighten out unintentionally, give it more gas. You can use the E brake to break loose again if necessary.

I assume no responsibility for people who get hurt using this method. It works for me, but may not for you. Good luck and keep it safe, intellegent,and not stupid. Thanks

just go find a dirt road and figure it out on your own.......

this is proof that good or decent drifting can be done...with out suspension mods, or huge power mods...on a fairly basic s13...i do have ALOT of practice though...this is on open diff if no one figured that out...(not talking about the regulars around here)
http://videos.streetfire.net/player.aspx?fileid=8AC5A536-15E3-4FA2-892C-2F2BB0000234

WTF???!!!


hell YEAh u can Drift with out LSD!

left turns for sure, right turns.... u need speed and faint. its hella hard to do a right drift with open diff but its doabe... rain helps too.

don't get me wrong ..u need an LSD to drift right, open diff is hard and sloppy, but it can be done!!

yea as in your agreeing with me??


ummm NO as in NO im not agreeing with you. you said bleh if you dont have a LSD dont bother. i say fuck that theres no reason to not try just because you dont have an LSD. as proved by driftking you can do just fine without it so why the hell would you tell someone to not even bother with it?

yeah its possible to "drift" without LSD, like people have said, the drift bible is a good resource, i think if ur not getting lsd the best thing u can do is like some people have said is to go fast, then when u step on the brakes this will create a larger weight transitition, sending most of the weight to the front of the car, the s14 wont need as much weight transfered as the s13, but im not sure because we have the KA's lol...Thats a lot more weight in the front..but it will still work

IMO i think if you learn to drift w/o lsd, you can do a lot better with it. And learning to drift requires crash courses, its almost imposible to drift w/o crashing in the city.

this is proof that good or decent drifting can be done...with out suspension mods, or huge power mods...on a fairly basic s13...i do have ALOT of practice though...this is on open diff if no one figured that out...(not talking about the regulars around here)
http://videos.streetfire.net/player.aspx?fileid=8AC5A536-15E3-4FA2-892C-2F2BB0000234

WHY CANT I SEE THE VIDEO!!!!!!!????????????? :mad:

IMO i think if you learn to drift w/o lsd, you can do a lot better with it. And learning to drift requires crash courses, its almost imposible to drift w/o crashing in the city.

I can honestly say that i have never crashed...any vehicle i have ever owned...an ive been drifting for nearly 4 years now...so...i guess not everyone gets the crash course.

and johnnyboy...dont know why you cant see the vid...duno?

driftking where do you drift cause if you only drift in that parking lot then i can see why no wrecks but if you do drifting anyplace that gets kinda tight most people would hit a curb or 2 sometime or a mail box. i can close to a brick mailbox once i was sidewayz and my wheels got traction again and i jumped forward right at the mailbox it sucked but i was quick w/ the brakes and caught it. ive never had anything bad happen but have gone sideways into some ditches

a mail box?? You drift in the neighbor hoods??

and orestes, i stated why in a previous post. Im mean sure you can do it, but i wouldnt get hard core into it unless i had one. Guess thats my view point. I mean your going to need one anyways, so might as well learn with one too. Sure doing it with out one will still help you develope skills and get the feel of sliding and what your car will do in given situations. Thats my idea, i just wouldnt really get into it unless i had one. Sure i go out to the occasional parking lot and do some figure eights around light poles and shit, but if i had an lsd i might do it more often. I do it like once every 2-3 months just to go screw around in my car.

i try not to but this corner is the shit so i had to hit it once. and i knew there were no kids or cars around to hit

I can honestly say that i have never crashed...any vehicle i have ever owned...an ive been drifting for nearly 4 years now...so...i guess not everyone gets the crash course.

and johnnyboy...dont know why you cant see the vid...duno?

Thats good for you BRO! :bigthumb:
Defying the odds is a good feeling. Try to keep it that way. But you cant do it safe all te time. Anyway, thats why i said "almost impossible" to drift w/o crashing. I also drift in the neighborhoods and in the mountains ocasionally late at night, or when i definitely know that theres no risks of injuries to other things.

yep

at least Drifting an Open Diff will keep you from using power as a crutch like some of the hackasses that think 15 degrees over coming out of a corner is drifting.

Basically a LSD will...

make your car feel like it has more power
Add to Effective rear traction (lateral and Accelerative)
Tend Towards Understeer (yes understeer)
Make Slides more predictable and Easy to control

could'nt said it beter myself!

thanks for all of your replys. but i gues i wont be doin anything for a while cuz it stopped rainin. im still waitn on my homie to put in his new lsd so i can buy his old one. oh by the way some of you ask where i practice? wel just go out to where all the big factories are at.