Stunned: I need help!
Darkwing
04-11-2002, 12:38 AM
I need to know what to do. I am shaking all over and can hardly type. I just found out my best friend ( a girl, already married) just tried pot. She for some crazy reason decided to say yes to this creep at school when he asked her if she wanted to try pot. they went to his place and smoked for an hour and a half. She told me, and I am so mixed up right now i don't know what to do. I want to KILL that guy. I see him every day and I'll see him tomarrow and I don't know if I can restrain myself from taking a shot at him. My friend has such a beautiful mind, she is near genious and could have just blown it all because she is too damn curious. I need to know what to do, what to say. unfortunately I just sent a reply to her email basically chewing her out, but giving good reason why. I need advice, soon, before i have a stroke..
Spec2 Girl
04-11-2002, 12:49 AM
I’m sure she’ll be OK as long as it was just pot. I know quite a few people who have smoked a fair bit of pot and they all turned out OK. Don't worry too much. :)
Darkwing
04-11-2002, 12:56 AM
Originally posted by Spec2 Girl
I’m sure she’ll be OK as long as it was just pot. I know quite a few people who have smoked a fair bit of pot and they all turned out OK. Don't worry too much. :)
that makes me feel a little better, but I still don't know what to say or do.
I’m sure she’ll be OK as long as it was just pot. I know quite a few people who have smoked a fair bit of pot and they all turned out OK. Don't worry too much. :)
that makes me feel a little better, but I still don't know what to say or do.
Gonthrax
04-11-2002, 01:09 AM
Originally posted by Darkwing
that makes me feel a little better, but I still don't know what to say or do.
Ok bro, here's a little insite for ya. There are three types of people who smoke bud: The Experimental Smoker, The Professional Smoker, and the Stoner. The experimental smoker is your girlfriend, they have smoke mby three or four times a year. This is OK. There is the professional smoker, we smoke alot but get up a 6:30 every morning to go to work before class, we have nice jobs, we do average or above average in school. We operate at 100% and go about our daily lives just like any one else would, accept we are high when we do it. By looking at us, one wouldn't think that we have ever smoked bud. We know that there will come a time when pot won't fit into our lives but that time hasn't come. We know that after we retire we will probly start smoking agian (If our health permits it :D). Then there is the stoner. They smoke alot of pot but, unlike the professional smoker, they cannot act normaly. They don't do things because they are high, they do things they normaly wouldn't do because they are high. They are broke because they buy pot and don't make enough money to support the habit ('cause they are high and don't go to work). They will smoke themselves into the ground by not knowing when enough is enough.
In the end it is your girlfriend's call, but if she decides to keep smoking, just do your best to make sure she becomes one of the first two, not the last. I would say somthing about the health risks, but we are adults here, we know that it's bad for your body... For christ's sake, your carrying around a fire and breathing the smoke.
that makes me feel a little better, but I still don't know what to say or do.
Ok bro, here's a little insite for ya. There are three types of people who smoke bud: The Experimental Smoker, The Professional Smoker, and the Stoner. The experimental smoker is your girlfriend, they have smoke mby three or four times a year. This is OK. There is the professional smoker, we smoke alot but get up a 6:30 every morning to go to work before class, we have nice jobs, we do average or above average in school. We operate at 100% and go about our daily lives just like any one else would, accept we are high when we do it. By looking at us, one wouldn't think that we have ever smoked bud. We know that there will come a time when pot won't fit into our lives but that time hasn't come. We know that after we retire we will probly start smoking agian (If our health permits it :D). Then there is the stoner. They smoke alot of pot but, unlike the professional smoker, they cannot act normaly. They don't do things because they are high, they do things they normaly wouldn't do because they are high. They are broke because they buy pot and don't make enough money to support the habit ('cause they are high and don't go to work). They will smoke themselves into the ground by not knowing when enough is enough.
In the end it is your girlfriend's call, but if she decides to keep smoking, just do your best to make sure she becomes one of the first two, not the last. I would say somthing about the health risks, but we are adults here, we know that it's bad for your body... For christ's sake, your carrying around a fire and breathing the smoke.
Moppie
04-11-2002, 03:21 AM
Gonthrax that is possibly the most intelligent piece of writing I have ever seen about the subject of useing Dope. :cool:
Differnt people react in differnt ways to drugs, some will try it, not like it and never do it agian, some will try it, enjoy it, but not be negativly affected but it and so it for the enjoyment, and some will try it, like it, and be negativly affected by it, but still continue to do it.
I have friends who fit into all three groups, some are real nobodys with no life, and some make more money in a year than a lot of us will make in our lives. But as all are intellgent educated people, I let them worry about what its doing to thier lives.
anyway, what should you do?
Well fisrt of all RELAX! :smoka:
You are not your friends mind, or consciense. If shes really as intellgent as you think then let her make the desicion. Generaly smart people are able to work something like doing drugs out for themselves.
I'll admit there are some who can't, but you need to wait till they can't help themselves before you worry about them, making a fuss about it before hand can have the oposite affect, and cause them to rebel.
Aplogise to your friend for getting upset, tell her you trust her etc, and let her make her up her own mind.
Differnt people react in differnt ways to drugs, some will try it, not like it and never do it agian, some will try it, enjoy it, but not be negativly affected but it and so it for the enjoyment, and some will try it, like it, and be negativly affected by it, but still continue to do it.
I have friends who fit into all three groups, some are real nobodys with no life, and some make more money in a year than a lot of us will make in our lives. But as all are intellgent educated people, I let them worry about what its doing to thier lives.
anyway, what should you do?
Well fisrt of all RELAX! :smoka:
You are not your friends mind, or consciense. If shes really as intellgent as you think then let her make the desicion. Generaly smart people are able to work something like doing drugs out for themselves.
I'll admit there are some who can't, but you need to wait till they can't help themselves before you worry about them, making a fuss about it before hand can have the oposite affect, and cause them to rebel.
Aplogise to your friend for getting upset, tell her you trust her etc, and let her make her up her own mind.
Ssom
04-11-2002, 05:02 AM
Yes GonthraX has completeley sussed this one out, basically there is little wrong with experimenting with Marajuana, it is only addictive in rare cases and providing she has no mental illlness won't be affected.
If she starts doing it what seems like 24/7 is when you start worrying
If she starts doing it what seems like 24/7 is when you start worrying
Darkwing
04-11-2002, 12:16 PM
gee, I guess I over reacted. I had a nights sleep and good talk with God. I am not mad at the guy anymore, he was just lonely and wanted to have someone else smoke with him. He's so screwed up, that's what made me scared, was that she would be like him.
Apparently this stuff isn't that bad. I thought all drugs were completely evil (illegal ones that is). She said she would never try it again. I hope she is right. I will send an apology letter saying just what you said, that I trust her and I didn't know what I was talking about. I thought it was alot worse that I guess it was.
Thank you all so much. You're great.
Apparently this stuff isn't that bad. I thought all drugs were completely evil (illegal ones that is). She said she would never try it again. I hope she is right. I will send an apology letter saying just what you said, that I trust her and I didn't know what I was talking about. I thought it was alot worse that I guess it was.
Thank you all so much. You're great.
taranaki
04-11-2002, 12:42 PM
This thread is outstanding guys,top quality advice and no bull.If only we could treat all requests for advice/information this wisely.
A little bit of weed never hurt anyone,but it can very easily hurt those around us.In a friendly,relaxed and open context,marijuana can be no more damaging than a glass of beer after work,but when it becomes a 'secret smoke' or an attempt to fit in with the crowd,you are doing it for the wrong reasons.
Looks like your friend has been perfectly honest with you....that deserves a bit of respect.Don't be caught up in the old'dope fiend' myths,it's a fairly common vice,and properly handled ,a relatively harmless one.
A little bit of weed never hurt anyone,but it can very easily hurt those around us.In a friendly,relaxed and open context,marijuana can be no more damaging than a glass of beer after work,but when it becomes a 'secret smoke' or an attempt to fit in with the crowd,you are doing it for the wrong reasons.
Looks like your friend has been perfectly honest with you....that deserves a bit of respect.Don't be caught up in the old'dope fiend' myths,it's a fairly common vice,and properly handled ,a relatively harmless one.
Sham365
04-11-2002, 01:59 PM
Originally posted by Darkwing
...My friend has such a beautiful mind, she is near genious and could have just blown it all because she is too damn curious. I need to know what to do, what to say. unfortunately I just sent a reply to her email basically chewing her out, but giving good reason why. I need advice, soon, before i have a stroke..
Calm down.
Take deep breaths.
Realize this: your friend is now officially a pothead. Just kidding.
But do realize this: Your former governor also smoked pot and he became President of the United States - and he got free blowjobs all the time!
Trying pot does not ruin a person's mind. BEING ADDICTED TO POT does (kills your drive).
Also: Another key piece of info that has some bearing on your recommended course of action - didn't you say this woman was married?. Hmmm...sounds like you need to let the hubby handle this if there is violence involved. I don't see the sense in you popping some local pothead in the eye over a woman if she's not your wife or your GF. Doesn't look too good on the criminal record and if you did then you'd be what is referred to as a "Captain save a ___". Not too good.
Now if her clothes started smelling like weed 24/7 then ya might have a situation...
...My friend has such a beautiful mind, she is near genious and could have just blown it all because she is too damn curious. I need to know what to do, what to say. unfortunately I just sent a reply to her email basically chewing her out, but giving good reason why. I need advice, soon, before i have a stroke..
Calm down.
Take deep breaths.
Realize this: your friend is now officially a pothead. Just kidding.
But do realize this: Your former governor also smoked pot and he became President of the United States - and he got free blowjobs all the time!
Trying pot does not ruin a person's mind. BEING ADDICTED TO POT does (kills your drive).
Also: Another key piece of info that has some bearing on your recommended course of action - didn't you say this woman was married?. Hmmm...sounds like you need to let the hubby handle this if there is violence involved. I don't see the sense in you popping some local pothead in the eye over a woman if she's not your wife or your GF. Doesn't look too good on the criminal record and if you did then you'd be what is referred to as a "Captain save a ___". Not too good.
Now if her clothes started smelling like weed 24/7 then ya might have a situation...
Darkwing
04-11-2002, 02:25 PM
Originally posted by Sham365
Also: Another key piece of info that has some bearing on your recommended course of action - didn't you say this woman was married?. Hmmm...sounds like you need to let the hubby handle this if there is violence involved. I don't see the sense in you popping some local pothead in the eye over a woman if she's not your wife or your GF. Doesn't look too good on the criminal record and if you did then you'd be what is referred to as a "Captain save a ___". Not too good.
Now if her clothes started smelling like weed 24/7 then ya might have a situation...
exactly. That is another thing, she won't tell her husband...
I am calm now though, and the guy is pretty safe from me I think for the moment. I'm not too rash, just a bit stunned. much better now though thanks to you lot. Cheers!
Also: Another key piece of info that has some bearing on your recommended course of action - didn't you say this woman was married?. Hmmm...sounds like you need to let the hubby handle this if there is violence involved. I don't see the sense in you popping some local pothead in the eye over a woman if she's not your wife or your GF. Doesn't look too good on the criminal record and if you did then you'd be what is referred to as a "Captain save a ___". Not too good.
Now if her clothes started smelling like weed 24/7 then ya might have a situation...
exactly. That is another thing, she won't tell her husband...
I am calm now though, and the guy is pretty safe from me I think for the moment. I'm not too rash, just a bit stunned. much better now though thanks to you lot. Cheers!
KatWoman
04-11-2002, 02:50 PM
This is definitely a good thread on this topic...especially because there are intelligent replies instead of the typical "drugs are bad.....mmmmkay?" responses you would get on similar boards.
I have to say that I have never experimented with anything. I rarely even drink. I used to think at one time that pot was very bad, especially growing up in a Christian upbringing and having gone to Christian school where they taught that anything outside of praying was bad...well not really, but might as well have been :rolleyes:
But through having friends and knowing people who have different "hobbies", I learned that pot is not the devil that others make it out to be. I even had an opportunity to sit amongst friends who were smoking one nite (usually if I knew they were doing that I would just make other plans) and it really wasn't that bad....actually it was funny seeing them laf their asses off at the littlest things. I still chose for myself to not participate and try it. It's not something I want to try or get into, I just don't have the desire to. I am silly enough without any other influences LOL.
It's called educating yourself. The people that jump down on others and are out to change things are usually the ones that are uneducated and do not know enough about the subject to have any say in the matter. Pot can be bad if overused. Alcohol can be bad if overused. Food is bad if you eat too much. So.....Everything in moderation.
I have to say that I have never experimented with anything. I rarely even drink. I used to think at one time that pot was very bad, especially growing up in a Christian upbringing and having gone to Christian school where they taught that anything outside of praying was bad...well not really, but might as well have been :rolleyes:
But through having friends and knowing people who have different "hobbies", I learned that pot is not the devil that others make it out to be. I even had an opportunity to sit amongst friends who were smoking one nite (usually if I knew they were doing that I would just make other plans) and it really wasn't that bad....actually it was funny seeing them laf their asses off at the littlest things. I still chose for myself to not participate and try it. It's not something I want to try or get into, I just don't have the desire to. I am silly enough without any other influences LOL.
It's called educating yourself. The people that jump down on others and are out to change things are usually the ones that are uneducated and do not know enough about the subject to have any say in the matter. Pot can be bad if overused. Alcohol can be bad if overused. Food is bad if you eat too much. So.....Everything in moderation.
S Brake
04-11-2002, 05:47 PM
One of my friends tried weed last year, but it was only like twice. but then he started asking his girlfriends permission to do it just one last time, that was it. as of now, he has dropped out of school and gets high at least once a day. and when he tuns 18 in a few days he will be recieving sufficient funds because of his ethnic background. with all this money pouring in i know what he'll do with it. mod his car and puff the magic dragon. i'm just worried because sometimes weed can lead to the harder drugs.
SiRedge
04-11-2002, 06:32 PM
True enough call there snowboarder, there can be that to it...
But seriously darkwing, all the advice here has been pretty sound. I'm not sure exactly, but from my experience more people seem to have tried it than those who haven't! Maybe this isn't the case in other countries... but I've had my fair share of it, and I definately don't call myself a pothead!! LMAO
Nope, I'm a perfectly sane, fairly normal (alright, maybe only sort of normal :finger: ) guy who goes to university, has a part time job, and does his car up when he isn't broke! I'm none the worse for doing weed for a while... in fact, I look back on it and am happy I've done it. It's been a learning curve (experience is the best teacher), and I know exactly what people mean when they talk about it, because I can relate!
About the only thing weed really has against it is that it's illegal. AND if you smoke it more regularly, it can take a while (a few months) for your brain to properly "wake up" again. You're not very affected, you hardly notice it... but after you "wake up" again, you look back and it seems that you've been slightly behind the 8 ball and a bit slower mentally for the past few months. That's something I've had to deal with once or twice, and I'm not going back to doing weed again.
But most of the time it's all good. I had some good times with it, and learnt a few things too... but I don't think I'm any less for doing it.
If the girl you refer to here was just curious and tried it coz she was offered, she won't be affected by it long term at all - she just got high! I wouldn't make a big deal about it... unless she starts buying it herself. Then there could be trouble. Otherwise, it's all good, relax!
Hope this helps a little...
But seriously darkwing, all the advice here has been pretty sound. I'm not sure exactly, but from my experience more people seem to have tried it than those who haven't! Maybe this isn't the case in other countries... but I've had my fair share of it, and I definately don't call myself a pothead!! LMAO
Nope, I'm a perfectly sane, fairly normal (alright, maybe only sort of normal :finger: ) guy who goes to university, has a part time job, and does his car up when he isn't broke! I'm none the worse for doing weed for a while... in fact, I look back on it and am happy I've done it. It's been a learning curve (experience is the best teacher), and I know exactly what people mean when they talk about it, because I can relate!
About the only thing weed really has against it is that it's illegal. AND if you smoke it more regularly, it can take a while (a few months) for your brain to properly "wake up" again. You're not very affected, you hardly notice it... but after you "wake up" again, you look back and it seems that you've been slightly behind the 8 ball and a bit slower mentally for the past few months. That's something I've had to deal with once or twice, and I'm not going back to doing weed again.
But most of the time it's all good. I had some good times with it, and learnt a few things too... but I don't think I'm any less for doing it.
If the girl you refer to here was just curious and tried it coz she was offered, she won't be affected by it long term at all - she just got high! I wouldn't make a big deal about it... unless she starts buying it herself. Then there could be trouble. Otherwise, it's all good, relax!
Hope this helps a little...
Darkwing
04-12-2002, 12:40 AM
well, just to let you all know, I had a good talk with her about it. We worked it out and things would be fine if she hadn't told me that it wasn't the crazyest thing she has ever done. She told me what it was. Now I can't get THAT out of my head. It was 4 yrs ago, but still, just that she would do that...
anyways, the pothead actually now is held in high regard by me. I guess what really scared me about the whole pot thing was that she went to his apartment, alone, with a pothead. Man, he was high. He is a girl-chaser, and he could have y'know, like raped her or something, easily. The fact that he was a good enough person to just give her the pot and let it go at that makes me happy. If it had been a meaner person...
I owe him one, I guess. I asked her if she had to do it all over again would she still do it, and she said yes. So she was going to try pot anyways. I'm glad that's all that came of it. I know that if I was high on pot, with a girl as pretty as her, that I wouldn't have been so, um, gentlemanly.
I also owe you lot one. For making me to see the truth before it was too late. I could have seriously screwed up, had you all not told me. I am glad I am on this part of the learning experience. I get to know what its like to try pot, how it affects others, how stupid it is, and why not to, all without ever having to stick a joint in my mouth!! Being able to say "I smoked pot" is not one of the things I would ever like to be able to do. That, along with any other drug, cigarette, cigar, or illegal substance. I also never want to be able to say I got drunk off my ass. Or that I had pre-marital sex. I like who I am, and I don't want to be ruined spiritually by any of these things. or physically. That may make some of you get the "huh?" face, but dammit I'm proud I've never fallen to the vices of the Devil. Am I the only one? I dunno...........
peace, and long life!
anyways, the pothead actually now is held in high regard by me. I guess what really scared me about the whole pot thing was that she went to his apartment, alone, with a pothead. Man, he was high. He is a girl-chaser, and he could have y'know, like raped her or something, easily. The fact that he was a good enough person to just give her the pot and let it go at that makes me happy. If it had been a meaner person...
I owe him one, I guess. I asked her if she had to do it all over again would she still do it, and she said yes. So she was going to try pot anyways. I'm glad that's all that came of it. I know that if I was high on pot, with a girl as pretty as her, that I wouldn't have been so, um, gentlemanly.
I also owe you lot one. For making me to see the truth before it was too late. I could have seriously screwed up, had you all not told me. I am glad I am on this part of the learning experience. I get to know what its like to try pot, how it affects others, how stupid it is, and why not to, all without ever having to stick a joint in my mouth!! Being able to say "I smoked pot" is not one of the things I would ever like to be able to do. That, along with any other drug, cigarette, cigar, or illegal substance. I also never want to be able to say I got drunk off my ass. Or that I had pre-marital sex. I like who I am, and I don't want to be ruined spiritually by any of these things. or physically. That may make some of you get the "huh?" face, but dammit I'm proud I've never fallen to the vices of the Devil. Am I the only one? I dunno...........
peace, and long life!
Spec2 Girl
04-12-2002, 12:45 AM
Originally posted by Darkwing
but dammit I'm proud I've never fallen to the vices of the Devil. Am I the only one? I dunno...........
Nope. I've never touched dope either. :)
but dammit I'm proud I've never fallen to the vices of the Devil. Am I the only one? I dunno...........
Nope. I've never touched dope either. :)
Moppie
04-12-2002, 02:44 AM
Originally posted by Spec2 Girl
Nope. I've never touched dope either. :)
Ill 2nd that.
Iv done almost everything else in his little list of vice's, but I have never inhaled weed. :smoka: :D
Nope. I've never touched dope either. :)
Ill 2nd that.
Iv done almost everything else in his little list of vice's, but I have never inhaled weed. :smoka: :D
Gonthrax
04-13-2002, 01:18 PM
Originally posted by Moppie
Gonthrax that is possibly the most intelligent piece of writing I have ever seen about the subject of useing Dope. :cool:
Thanks Moppie :D :D
Any how, good advice all 'round, darkwing I'm glad your an open minded person :)
Gonthrax that is possibly the most intelligent piece of writing I have ever seen about the subject of useing Dope. :cool:
Thanks Moppie :D :D
Any how, good advice all 'round, darkwing I'm glad your an open minded person :)
Darkwing
04-13-2002, 02:40 PM
Originally posted by Gonthrax
Any how, good advice all 'round, darkwing I'm glad your an open minded person :)
so am I :)
it saved my friendship :)
Any how, good advice all 'round, darkwing I'm glad your an open minded person :)
so am I :)
it saved my friendship :)
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