Shut off all lights - 1995
68meteor
05-10-2005, 02:48 PM
Ok, my friend has a 1995 Continental and we can't manage to get all the exterior lights to turn off. I know that pushing the e-brake on should do the trick, but it isn't. Is there a setting somewhere to allow this to work or would a "door ajar" cause it to keep the lights on for some reason?
I'm going to fix the door ajar problem today, but we need to figure out the light thing before the drive-in opens again.
Later.
I'm going to fix the door ajar problem today, but we need to figure out the light thing before the drive-in opens again.
Later.
Towncar
05-11-2005, 01:14 PM
Find and turn off the "Auto" lights. On my TC it's intergated into the headlight switch but I've heard through other posts there's other configurations as well.
68meteor
05-11-2005, 02:50 PM
I'm not talking the headlights, I'm talking the running (daytime) lights. I know that turning the autolight feature to "off" will turn off the headlights, but there's still the "daytime" lights - and there's always a way to turn these off.
Later.
Later.
Towncar
05-12-2005, 06:12 PM
...but there's still the "daytime" lights - and there's always a way to turn these off.
Wrong, DRL are there for a reason. You CAN circumvent the system with a few wires and switches but the option to turn them off isn't built in.
I'll give you everything from the Serice Manual, and you decide what to do about it.
Section 17-04: Lamps, Daytime Running
VEHICLE APPLICATION: Continental
DESCRIPTION AND OPERATION
DIAGNOSIS AND TESTING (I'll only post this if you need it, It's huge)
REMOVAL AND INSTALLATION
SPECIAL SERVICE TOOLS/EQUIPMENT ( Multimeter )
Daytime Running Lamp (DRL) System
DESCRIPTION AND OPERATION
The daytime running lamp system is designed to turn the high-beam headlamps ON, with a reduced light output and without illuminating the high-beam indicator in the instrument cluster when the following conditions are met:
* The ignition switch is in the RUN position.
* The park brake is fully released.
* The headlamp switch is in the OFF position.
Note:
If vehicle is equipped with an autolamp system, the daytime running lamp system is active until the autolamp system turns on the headlamps.
The daytime running lamp system is required by the Canadian government for vehicles sold in Canada.
WARNING:
DAYTIME RUNNING LAMPS CONTROL MODULE GETS VERY HOT DURING OPERATION. BE SURE DAYTIME RUNNING LAMPS CONTROL MODULE HAS COOLED BEFORE HANDLING IT.
The daytime running lamp system uses a daytime running lamps control module and bracket assembly on the LH inside fender located above the wheel well, toward the front of the vehicle.
* The wiring is connected to theheadlamp dash panel junction wire.
* The daytime running lamps control output consists of rapidly pulsating short bursts of power which cannot be measured using most multimeters.
* Daytime running lamp control output cannot be adjusted.
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Daytime Running Lamp (DRL) Control
Removal and Installation
1. Remove the battery tray.
2. Remove the engine air cleaner.
3. Remove two screws retaining daytime running lamps control to LH inner fender.
4. WARNING: DAYTIME RUNNING LAMPS CONTROL MODULE GETS VERY HOT DURING OPERATION. BE SURE MODULE HAS COOLED BEFORE HANDLING IT.
Disconnect electrical connector and remove daytime running lamps control.
5. To install, reverse Removal procedure.
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Wrong, DRL are there for a reason. You CAN circumvent the system with a few wires and switches but the option to turn them off isn't built in.
I'll give you everything from the Serice Manual, and you decide what to do about it.
Section 17-04: Lamps, Daytime Running
VEHICLE APPLICATION: Continental
DESCRIPTION AND OPERATION
DIAGNOSIS AND TESTING (I'll only post this if you need it, It's huge)
REMOVAL AND INSTALLATION
SPECIAL SERVICE TOOLS/EQUIPMENT ( Multimeter )
Daytime Running Lamp (DRL) System
DESCRIPTION AND OPERATION
The daytime running lamp system is designed to turn the high-beam headlamps ON, with a reduced light output and without illuminating the high-beam indicator in the instrument cluster when the following conditions are met:
* The ignition switch is in the RUN position.
* The park brake is fully released.
* The headlamp switch is in the OFF position.
Note:
If vehicle is equipped with an autolamp system, the daytime running lamp system is active until the autolamp system turns on the headlamps.
The daytime running lamp system is required by the Canadian government for vehicles sold in Canada.
WARNING:
DAYTIME RUNNING LAMPS CONTROL MODULE GETS VERY HOT DURING OPERATION. BE SURE DAYTIME RUNNING LAMPS CONTROL MODULE HAS COOLED BEFORE HANDLING IT.
The daytime running lamp system uses a daytime running lamps control module and bracket assembly on the LH inside fender located above the wheel well, toward the front of the vehicle.
* The wiring is connected to theheadlamp dash panel junction wire.
* The daytime running lamps control output consists of rapidly pulsating short bursts of power which cannot be measured using most multimeters.
* Daytime running lamp control output cannot be adjusted.
************************************************
Daytime Running Lamp (DRL) Control
Removal and Installation
1. Remove the battery tray.
2. Remove the engine air cleaner.
3. Remove two screws retaining daytime running lamps control to LH inner fender.
4. WARNING: DAYTIME RUNNING LAMPS CONTROL MODULE GETS VERY HOT DURING OPERATION. BE SURE MODULE HAS COOLED BEFORE HANDLING IT.
Disconnect electrical connector and remove daytime running lamps control.
5. To install, reverse Removal procedure.
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Towncar
05-12-2005, 07:04 PM
OK, I'll post the part about the Parking Brake, since that seems to be the problem
DIAGNOSIS AND TESTING
Electrical Schematics
Daytime Running Lamps
Connector End Views
Inspection and Verification
Symptom Chart -- Daytime Running Lamps
Pinpoint Tests ( I'll show the list, and only detail the parking brake, Test C)
PINPOINT TEST A: HIGH BEAM INDICATOR ON, HIGH BEAMS ON FULL INTENSITY OR HIGH BEAMS INOPERATIVE
PINPOINT TEST B: HIGH BEAMS ON AT REDUCED INTENSITY WITH IGNITION OFF
PINPOINT TEST C: HIGH BEAMS ON AT REDUCED INTENSITY WITH PARKING BRAKE APPLIED
PINPOINT TEST D: HIGH BEAMS ON AT REDUCED INTENSITY WITH HEADLAMP SWITCH ON
PINPOINT TEST E: NO HIGH BEAM INDICATOR WITH HEADLAMPS IN HIGH BEAM POSITION
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PINPOINT TEST C: HIGH BEAMS ON AT REDUCED INTENSITY WITH PARKING BRAKE APPLIED
C1: CHECK PARKING BRAKE SWITCH
C2: CHECK CIRCUIT 22 (LB/BK)
C1 CHECK PARKING BRAKE SWITCH
* Turn ignition switch to RUN; turn headlamps off.
* Disconnect parking brake signal switch and bracket; using a jumper wire connect Circuit 22 (LB/BK) to a known good ground.
* Did high beams turn off?
Yes
REPLACE parking brake signal switch and bracket. RESTORE vehicle. RETEST system.
No
GO to «C2».
C2 CHECK CIRCUIT 22 (LB/BK)
* With jumper wire still connected, disconnect daytime running lamps control.
* Using an ohmmeter connected to a known good ground, measure resistance of Circuit 22 (LB/BK).
* Is resistance 5 ohms or less?
Yes
REPLACE daytime running lamps control. RESTORE vehicle. RETEST system.
No
SERVICE Circuit 22 (LB/BK) for open circuit. RESTORE vehicle. RETEST system.
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Inspection and Verification
1. Verify the customer's concern by following these steps:
a. Turn ignition switch to OFF.
b. Turn headlamp switch ON.
c. Check low beam headlamp operation.
d. Turn high beam headlamp ON with dimmer switch.
e. Check high beam operation.
f. Check high beam indicator located in instrument cluster for proper operation.
g. Turn high beam headlamps OFF.
h. Turn low beam headlamps OFF.
i. Note: Service headlamp concerns before checking daytime running lamps.
Check daytime running lamps system operation:
(1) Turn ignition switch to RUN.
(2) Check for high beam headlamps ON at reduced intensity.
2. Inspect to determine if one of the following mechanical or electrical concerns apply:
VISUAL INSPECTION CHART
Mechanical
Damaged lamps.
Electrical
Power distribution box Fuse 16 (20A), and 34 (15A).
Damaged connectors.
Circuitry open/shorted.
Damaged ignition switch.
Damaged daytime running lamps control module.
Damaged parking brake signal switch and bracket.
3. If the inspection reveals obvious concern(s) that can be readily identified, service as required.
4. If the concern(s) remains after the inspection, determine the symptom(s) and go to the Symptom Chart.
DIAGNOSIS AND TESTING
Electrical Schematics
Daytime Running Lamps
Connector End Views
Inspection and Verification
Symptom Chart -- Daytime Running Lamps
Pinpoint Tests ( I'll show the list, and only detail the parking brake, Test C)
PINPOINT TEST A: HIGH BEAM INDICATOR ON, HIGH BEAMS ON FULL INTENSITY OR HIGH BEAMS INOPERATIVE
PINPOINT TEST B: HIGH BEAMS ON AT REDUCED INTENSITY WITH IGNITION OFF
PINPOINT TEST C: HIGH BEAMS ON AT REDUCED INTENSITY WITH PARKING BRAKE APPLIED
PINPOINT TEST D: HIGH BEAMS ON AT REDUCED INTENSITY WITH HEADLAMP SWITCH ON
PINPOINT TEST E: NO HIGH BEAM INDICATOR WITH HEADLAMPS IN HIGH BEAM POSITION
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PINPOINT TEST C: HIGH BEAMS ON AT REDUCED INTENSITY WITH PARKING BRAKE APPLIED
C1: CHECK PARKING BRAKE SWITCH
C2: CHECK CIRCUIT 22 (LB/BK)
C1 CHECK PARKING BRAKE SWITCH
* Turn ignition switch to RUN; turn headlamps off.
* Disconnect parking brake signal switch and bracket; using a jumper wire connect Circuit 22 (LB/BK) to a known good ground.
* Did high beams turn off?
Yes
REPLACE parking brake signal switch and bracket. RESTORE vehicle. RETEST system.
No
GO to «C2».
C2 CHECK CIRCUIT 22 (LB/BK)
* With jumper wire still connected, disconnect daytime running lamps control.
* Using an ohmmeter connected to a known good ground, measure resistance of Circuit 22 (LB/BK).
* Is resistance 5 ohms or less?
Yes
REPLACE daytime running lamps control. RESTORE vehicle. RETEST system.
No
SERVICE Circuit 22 (LB/BK) for open circuit. RESTORE vehicle. RETEST system.
************************************************** **
Inspection and Verification
1. Verify the customer's concern by following these steps:
a. Turn ignition switch to OFF.
b. Turn headlamp switch ON.
c. Check low beam headlamp operation.
d. Turn high beam headlamp ON with dimmer switch.
e. Check high beam operation.
f. Check high beam indicator located in instrument cluster for proper operation.
g. Turn high beam headlamps OFF.
h. Turn low beam headlamps OFF.
i. Note: Service headlamp concerns before checking daytime running lamps.
Check daytime running lamps system operation:
(1) Turn ignition switch to RUN.
(2) Check for high beam headlamps ON at reduced intensity.
2. Inspect to determine if one of the following mechanical or electrical concerns apply:
VISUAL INSPECTION CHART
Mechanical
Damaged lamps.
Electrical
Power distribution box Fuse 16 (20A), and 34 (15A).
Damaged connectors.
Circuitry open/shorted.
Damaged ignition switch.
Damaged daytime running lamps control module.
Damaged parking brake signal switch and bracket.
3. If the inspection reveals obvious concern(s) that can be readily identified, service as required.
4. If the concern(s) remains after the inspection, determine the symptom(s) and go to the Symptom Chart.
cbittick1
06-11-2005, 01:31 PM
Please tell me how you fixed your "door ajar" problem. 1995 Lincoln keeps putting that message on the display even though no doors are ajar. I have tried to figure it out, but can't. When the car thinks a door is ajar, every time you come to a stop at night, all the interior lights come on...it's embarrassing. I pulled the fuse for my interior lights because of the "door ajar" problem. If you fixed it, please share with me how you resolved the problem.
Thank you,
Heath ([email protected])
Ok, my friend has a 1995 Continental and we can't manage to get all the exterior lights to turn off. I know that pushing the e-brake on should do the trick, but it isn't. Is there a setting somewhere to allow this to work or would a "door ajar" cause it to keep the lights on for some reason?
I'm going to fix the door ajar problem today, but we need to figure out the light thing before the drive-in opens again.
Later.
Thank you,
Heath ([email protected])
Ok, my friend has a 1995 Continental and we can't manage to get all the exterior lights to turn off. I know that pushing the e-brake on should do the trick, but it isn't. Is there a setting somewhere to allow this to work or would a "door ajar" cause it to keep the lights on for some reason?
I'm going to fix the door ajar problem today, but we need to figure out the light thing before the drive-in opens again.
Later.
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