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Hit_N_Run-player
05-10-2005, 12:55 AM
I was wondering what problems i should expect to run into if turboing a carburated engine. It will only be running 1-2 psi, where can i get a wastegate to actuate that low? Are the internal wastegates adjustabel to set that low? Any info would be great...

-Jayson-
05-10-2005, 11:15 AM
why bother 1-2 PSI wont show much of a difference in performance.

Hit_N_Run-player
05-10-2005, 01:00 PM
1-2 psi wont show a difference on a go cart? lol id be willing to be it would

Black Lotus
05-10-2005, 07:20 PM
1-2 psi wont show a difference on a go cart? lol id be willing to be it would
Jayson is right.
It goes something like this---
1-3 pounds boost-------"well I see I'm getting boost" (while flicking the guage with your finger to see if it's working.)
4-7 pounds boost-------"OK here it goes"
8-12 pounds boost------"Whoo-hoo!"
13-18 pounds boost-----"Holy Shit!"
18 pounds is as high as my car goes, but you get the picture.

Hypsi87
05-10-2005, 08:34 PM
Jayson is right.
It goes something like this---
1-3 pounds boost-------"well I see I'm getting boost" (while flicking the guage with your finger to see if it's working.)
4-7 pounds boost-------"OK here it goes"
8-12 pounds boost------"Whoo-hoo!"
13-18 pounds boost-----"Holy Shit!"
18 pounds is as high as my car goes, but you get the picture.

20-23 PSI = my god make it stop


24-30 PSI = ludacris speed!!!!!!!!!!! (space balls quote)

Zgringo
05-10-2005, 10:41 PM
Originally Posted by Black Lotus
Jayson is right.
It goes something like this---
1-3 pounds boost-------"well I see I'm getting boost" (while flicking the guage with your finger to see if it's working.)
4-7 pounds boost-------"OK here it goes"
8-12 pounds boost------"Whoo-hoo!"
13-18 pounds boost-----"Holy Shit!"
18 pounds is as high as my car goes, but you get the picture.

20-23 PSI = my god make it stop


24-30 PSI = ludacris speed!!!!!!!!!!! (space balls quote)

30+ PSI = anyone have some toilet paper

Hit_N_Run-player
05-10-2005, 11:29 PM
You guys are joking right? its a damn go kart....

nissanfanatic
05-11-2005, 05:41 PM
15psi from a T25=That was 15psi???? Shoulda brought my cd player.

Go for a 4psi setup man. Tial makes 4.xpsi springs. Even on a go kart, 1-2psi isn't gonna make a whole lot of difference. The turbo prolly isn't even efficient that low so power output will further be effected. If I were you, I'd rebuild it because its so easy to rebuild. Less hassle once you boost, ect. Prolly wanna look into adjusting fuel too.

Hit_N_Run-player
05-11-2005, 06:29 PM
rebuild the engine or turbo? because im already rebuilding the turbo, and i can get a whole engine for 90$ so im not that worried about it...i could live with 4psi though.

nissanfanatic
05-11-2005, 09:39 PM
Pistons and such are really cheap for small engines. So is machining. Good learning as well.

Schister66
05-12-2005, 08:28 PM
WHen you boost a car there is about a 3% rule....that is for every pound of boost, you gain 3% over stock power.

For what a turbo kit costs, you'd be better off getting headers and other cheaper more effective parts. Otherwise use more boost.

Hit_N_Run-player
05-12-2005, 11:29 PM
..........do you understand what i am doing here? i picked up a small garrett turbo along with 7 others that i am rebuilding. The garrett that is really small looks to be like a T2 or something. Its very small, and i have a go kart in my garage....go kart +micro turbo = lots of fun on a cheap project....

Schister66
05-17-2005, 10:21 PM
How are you compensating for the extra air....are you using a larger carb....or are you just leaving it alone?? I have a go kart w/ a little Briggs and Straton engine on it and i thought this sounded like fun.

The first post i had....i didn't really read the whole thing beforehand....sorry.

Hit_N_Run-player
05-17-2005, 11:46 PM
well ive been searching around and im going to try and buy a performance carburator that is made for kart racing...im not really sure yet

Schister66
05-18-2005, 10:47 AM
When you figure out what you're going to do....you should let me know!! And if you have any of the same turbos left....i might be interested.

Hypsi87
06-03-2005, 10:18 PM
I know that this is an older post but I was reviewing and I started to wonder.....

on a go kart engine, there is not pressurized oil system. Splash only.
How would you oil the turbo?

-Jayson-
06-04-2005, 12:57 PM
I know that this is an older post but I was reviewing and I started to wonder.....

on a go kart engine, there is not pressurized oil system. Splash only.
How would you oil the turbo?

well if its a water cooled turbo maybe. You could hook up some kind of small water pump system or oil pump system.

halfbluehit
06-07-2005, 03:43 AM
when chevy made the corvairs they didnt even use a wastegate to control bost: something about a small one throat carb to decrease air efficiency. just food for thought anyway...

Hit_N_Run-player
06-07-2005, 08:18 PM
I know that this is an older post but I was reviewing and I started to wonder.....

on a go kart engine, there is not pressurized oil system. Splash only.
How would you oil the turbo?

This was another problem i was trying to find a solution for. IF anyone has any ideas, let me know. maybe like some kind of jimmy-rigged oil pump and filter?

stephenp
11-15-2006, 09:56 PM
Weld a gear (sprocket) onto a small block chevy oil pump... tap and thread so to allow the inlet and outlet to have barbed fittings put a tube going to a 1 quart container (or larger) then attach pressurized side of pump to turbo place a return line back into the holding tank and place a line going to the suction side of the pump........ probably want a vent onto the container.... also on the not of 30 psi I got a 280zx that in theory I'll be able to run 28 to 32 psi of boost....

I thought I was the shit... My buddy then told me about someone who was running a dual turbo at 58 psi........... (dual as in not twin but inline.. where the exhaust goes through the larger turbo then the smaller (exhaust side) and charges through the smaller then through the larger.... I think thats how it went... maybe the other way either way I was like what....... Yeah needless to say it was the same car I saw at the drags earlier this summer... that was the baddest turbo car I ever saw... It coughed (poped out the carb) burped (sucked the cough back up) then farted (spewwed a line of flaming gas out the tailpipe) and launched out of the whole like a jet.......... A white 69 corvette friggin boosted... But it launched that same way everytime.... the guy said it has no power at all off boost (I was like off boost when, at the line???)

anyway til next time.

stephenp
11-15-2006, 10:03 PM
mount a sprocket on the shaft used to power the tires rig up a brace so the pump is stable (and inline with the apposing sprocket... and you want it to be able to adjust to eliminate slack


or a foil bearing ....Some sort of new bearing that doesnt use oil I dont know if it ever got off the ground yet but its in the works.. good luck though..

534BC
11-16-2006, 07:35 PM
2 pounds of boost with a turbo system may produce less hp than a Nice free-breathing nat aspirated set-up and be far more complex and expensive.

28 - 33 pounds = "what was that noise? what is that smoke in the mirror?"

534BC
11-16-2006, 07:39 PM
Weld a gear (sprocket) onto a small block chevy oil pump... tap and thread so to allow the inlet and outlet to have barbed fittings put a tube going to a 1 quart container (or larger) then attach pressurized side of pump to turbo place a return line back into the holding tank and place a line going to the suction side of the pump........ probably want a vent onto the container.... also on the not of 30 psi I got a 280zx that in theory I'll be able to run 28 to 32 psi of boost....

I thought I was the shit... My buddy then told me about someone who was running a dual turbo at 58 psi........... (dual as in not twin but inline.. where the exhaust goes through the larger turbo then the smaller (exhaust side) and charges through the smaller then through the larger.... I think thats how it went... maybe the other way either way I was like what....... Yeah needless to say it was the same car I saw at the drags earlier this summer... that was the baddest turbo car I ever saw... It coughed (poped out the carb) burped (sucked the cough back up) then farted (spewwed a line of flaming gas out the tailpipe) and launched out of the whole like a jet.......... A white 69 corvette friggin boosted... But it launched that same way everytime.... the guy said it has no power at all off boost (I was like off boost when, at the line???)

anyway til next time.

Check out the dsl boys pulling superstock tractors. They may be using about 200 pounds of boost now?

2.2 Straight six
11-19-2006, 07:10 PM
Check out the dsl boys pulling superstock tractors. They may be using about 200 pounds of boost now?

200 seems a little high. my friend is running 54psi on his QSB though.

UncleBob
11-21-2006, 11:22 PM
to answer the ORIGINAL question....carb(s) work just fine with a blow thru, if you know how to reference the float bowl pressure, and are extremely intimate with carbs. Tuning any carb takes experience and knowledge. And....a wbo2 really helps!

That being said, some applications aren't as friendly to boost as others. But most can be made to work...some work extremely well, with flawless drivability....with proper tuning.

Many people believe its nearly impossible. And IMO, those people are either perpetuating a myth that they have heard, or are one of the few unfortunately fellows that found a very bad carb/engine config to attempt to turbo, due to short comings of the carberator(s). The right carb on the right motor, is actually extremely easy to get right.

Hit_N_Run-player
11-22-2006, 04:00 AM
whoa...old ass thread. I dont even have a cart now. Ive moved onto turboing real cars ;) And then blowing engines too...

KiwiBacon
11-23-2006, 02:26 AM
I've made several of my turbos wastegate arms adjustable.

Just by adjusting the length you can change them from no boost to maximum boost.
It's not quite optimal, but it does work.

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