Window help needed quick!!
phatmattj
05-07-2005, 11:14 AM
My passenger window is stuck down about 4 inches:mad:, and i need to get it back up for prom tonight... i tried pulling it up every way possible but nothin works. the motors fried and it wont even go down now... but if anyone knows a way to get it up, please lemme know ASAP!!! thanx ahead of time
public
05-07-2005, 11:30 AM
You may try pulling up while some hits the switch. If that does not work you will need to remove the door panel and either change the motor, or at least disengage the gears by loosening the motor so you can lift the window and then remesh the gears and tighten the motor back into place. Good Luck.
phatmattj
05-07-2005, 11:39 AM
thanx for the tip! but how do i loosen the motor? i dont have to take it out do i? cuz the motors riveted in so its a lil hard and time consuming to take it out
public
05-07-2005, 02:41 PM
Ouch, If it is rivited in you can try turning the gears with a screwdriver. This will work on cars without a worm gear on the motor.(most cars) Try to turn the gear closest to the motor that you can get to. Hurry up, it is Prom night.
phatmattj
05-10-2005, 08:09 AM
it would be nice if i could get to the gears to turn them... its a little cramped in the door panel, so i cant really see or get to the motor or gears to do anything with them... and so far the weather forecast is clear for a few days, so hopefully by wed. i can go to pick-n-pull for a new motor... but after i get it, i think im just gonna bring it to the shop... dont wanna mess my car up any more than it already is :/
4dr92cavi4cyl
05-10-2005, 12:35 PM
Why did they put window motors and PDL motors in with rivets, WTF? My rear PDL motors were shot and they made this annoying sound when the switch was hit, not to mention it was nearly impossible to unlock the rear doors by hand. So I figured I'd take them out. It should have only taken 20 mins. max but those damn rivets made it a 2 hour job. Why?
daveb2012
09-06-2005, 07:43 PM
Why did they put window motors and PDL motors in with rivets, WTF? My rear PDL motors were shot and they made this annoying sound when the switch was hit, not to mention it was nearly impossible to unlock the rear doors by hand. So I figured I'd take them out. It should have only taken 20 mins. max but those damn rivets made it a 2 hour job. Why?
how did you get them "un-rivited" did you need a grinder to cut it out?
how did you get them "un-rivited" did you need a grinder to cut it out?
cdru
09-07-2005, 08:16 AM
I just did my two front windows. It will take 45 minutes or so once you figure things out. The easiest way to remove the rivits is to just grind them out. An angle grinder makes quick work of them. A dremel could be used, but will take forever. You could also drill out the rivits if you have bits hard enough. Cheap bits will just spin there. You may also want to remove the metal bracket the door panel screws to. It makes getting to the rivit beneith it a lot easier to work around.
Once you remove the 5 rivits holding the regulator assembly, remove the two bolts holding the track to the inside of the door in place. This will allow you to "fold" up the mechanism and lower the window far enough to reach the two bolts holding the track to the bottom of the window.
Once the window is lose, raise it back up and support it in the up position. I used a rubber door stop wedged in the top. The regulator assembly can then be wrestled out.
Once out, there are 4 or 5 pop rivits that hold the motor to the spring loaded regulator assembly. Secure the assembly in a vice and drill out the rivets. These are softer alumnium rivets so they drill out easily. Be warned that the arm is under considerable tension from the spring and when the motor is removed will snap around. Secure the arm to something sturdy. My vice is large enough that I just "trapped" the arm in the jaws when I tightened it up arund the base.
The installation is pretty much the reverse. The motor should come with new bolts to mount to the regulator. You are on your own for the replacement bolts for the steel rivits in the door. I couldn't find any rivits large enough to hold the door in place so I just used small bolts. The bolts are a PITA to get in there, so I put the bolts in the assembly while it was out of the window and held them in place with a little bit of duct tape. Yeah it may look a little getto putting it in, but no one will likely ever see it again. :)
Once you remove the 5 rivits holding the regulator assembly, remove the two bolts holding the track to the inside of the door in place. This will allow you to "fold" up the mechanism and lower the window far enough to reach the two bolts holding the track to the bottom of the window.
Once the window is lose, raise it back up and support it in the up position. I used a rubber door stop wedged in the top. The regulator assembly can then be wrestled out.
Once out, there are 4 or 5 pop rivits that hold the motor to the spring loaded regulator assembly. Secure the assembly in a vice and drill out the rivets. These are softer alumnium rivets so they drill out easily. Be warned that the arm is under considerable tension from the spring and when the motor is removed will snap around. Secure the arm to something sturdy. My vice is large enough that I just "trapped" the arm in the jaws when I tightened it up arund the base.
The installation is pretty much the reverse. The motor should come with new bolts to mount to the regulator. You are on your own for the replacement bolts for the steel rivits in the door. I couldn't find any rivits large enough to hold the door in place so I just used small bolts. The bolts are a PITA to get in there, so I put the bolts in the assembly while it was out of the window and held them in place with a little bit of duct tape. Yeah it may look a little getto putting it in, but no one will likely ever see it again. :)
4dr92cavi4cyl
09-07-2005, 11:39 AM
how did you get them "un-rivited" did you need a grinder to cut it out?
A grinder would have been really nice, but no. A screwdriver punched two out easilty, a hammer assisted the flathead screwdriver on the other two, and alot of patience while beating on those rivets.
A grinder would have been really nice, but no. A screwdriver punched two out easilty, a hammer assisted the flathead screwdriver on the other two, and alot of patience while beating on those rivets.
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