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question about internal performance


awdpower
05-05-2005, 01:51 PM
i wanted to know if i should put 950 cc injectors on my car. all i have on my car is intake pipe and filter. would that help or would i need to have more power on my car. i want to do internal performance on my car. what should i do.

Urban_Squrill
05-05-2005, 01:57 PM
First off could you put ur car in your sig. Assuming you have a turbo. You wont need new injectors until you upgrade your turbo. And for what to do next check out http://dsmtuners.com/tech.php .

riff22
05-05-2005, 02:11 PM
that would cause you to run very rich

awdpower
05-05-2005, 03:36 PM
so what would be the best internal work?

Urban_Squrill
05-05-2005, 03:51 PM
Internals like pistons and rods and such?

awdpower
05-05-2005, 03:55 PM
Internals like pistons and rods and such?

yeah. what would be the best things for my turbo eclipse 95

Urban_Squrill
05-05-2005, 03:58 PM
Unless their is something wronge with yours right not or your pushing 400+ hp their is no real reason to dive into internals. Intercooler pipe's MBC and things like that is what you should look into first.

awdpower
05-05-2005, 04:02 PM
Unless their is something wronge with yours right not or your pushing 400+ hp their is no real reason to dive into internals. Intercooler pipe's MBC and things like that is what you should look into first.

yeah but what i want is internal so that way nobody can know how fast my car really is and external work they will know.

Urban_Squrill
05-05-2005, 04:07 PM
Doing your internals wont make you any faster. No one will know how fast you are if you dont pop ur hood or show off.

awdpower
05-05-2005, 04:17 PM
Doing your internals wont make you any faster. No one will know how fast you are if you dont pop ur hood or show off.

well then how come you here about gst or gsx with 300 to 450 hp on engine. like on ebay

Urban_Squrill
05-05-2005, 04:24 PM
Its called bigger turbos intercoolers and things like that. Forged internals just let you use more boost.

awdpower
05-05-2005, 04:27 PM
Its called bigger turbos intercoolers and things like that. Forged internals just let you use more boost.

so no hp with forged or they say something about .50 overbore or something like that. and with the 550 cc injectors and alot of other stuff too.

Urban_Squrill
05-05-2005, 04:29 PM
ahhh you dont make sense. Thats when they rebuild. You only need biger injectors when you get a bigger turbo.

drewh4386
05-05-2005, 04:32 PM
so no hp with forged or they say something about .50 overbore or something like that. and with the 550 cc injectors and alot of other stuff too. A car with that much hp is going to starve of gas without bigger injectors and fuel pump with that much hp turbo'd

.50 overbore it just a little more hp but not alot. Changes the displacment a little to push more power.

awdpower
05-05-2005, 04:38 PM
A car with that much hp is going to starve of gas without bigger injectors and fuel pump with that much hp turbo'd

.50 overbore it just a little more hp but not alot. Changes the displacment a little to push more power.

what is that .50 overbore

drewh4386
05-05-2005, 04:45 PM
what is that .50 overboreeach cylinder was was resized(bored) .50(???)bigger than it original size.


EDIT from vfaq> What is a stroker motor?
What is a 'bored' engine?
What is meant by a 'bored and stroked' engine?http://members.shaw.ca/costall/1000Q/3logos.jpg (http://www.dsm.org/search.epl?type=digest&search=stroker%20motor)Search for this topic now! (http://www.dsm.org/search.epl?type=digest&search=stroker%20motor)A stroker motor is any engine that has been modified to increase its displacement by extending the length of the piston stroke. This involves changing the crankshaft, and possibly the connecting rods and pistons, to increase the maximum combusion chamber size inside the engine. Compression ratios may also be changed, or the design may involve using additional parts to negate this. The net result is usually an engine with significantly more power than the regular engine. A 'bored' engine is an engine that has larger-than-factory pistons installed in it. This involves machining the piston chambers in the block to a larger size, and the installing oversize pistons to match. This again increases the displacement of the engine, and allows the user greater flexibility in choosing their overall compression ratio. The intention, again, is to eke more power from the engine. If both of these methods are used on an engine, the engine is said to be 'bored and stroked'. Since performing one process usually takes a significant amount of labor, many people find that they may as well do both. Also, people who really want the power are likely to really want to do both. Both methods involve modifying the lower half of the engine. The stroker motor is an extreme (and extremely expensive) method of increasing power; it is not a popular mod on DSMs or any other car because of the high initial expense, overall complexity and relatively small margin for error. Those interested should check out the vendors page (http://vendors.dsm.org/) for vendors who sell stroker motors or kits. One little-known but useful fact for overbore proponents is that Mitsubishi sells factory overbore pistons. 1G owners can purchase 0.25mm, 0.50mm and 1.0mm overbore - 0.50mm and 1.0mm overbore are available in 2G style. Since the pistons are interchangeable between 1G and 2G engines (with accompanying changes in compression ratio), these provide additional options to the engine rebuilder. The best part is price - at the time this page was last updated the cost for the 2G pistons was less than $40 ($US) each. .

scottsee
05-05-2005, 04:45 PM
i think you really need to read www.vfaq.com
then read it again.

JoeWagon
05-05-2005, 08:25 PM
There is no way to make your car fast without doing the basics. dsmtuners.com mod list.

macder
05-05-2005, 09:06 PM
In most cases a bore is done to repair cylinder walls when the pistons sieze inside them. IMO it's a foolish way to spend money if it's not required as it is much more costly then other mods that will increase performance more.

l_eclipse_l
05-05-2005, 09:42 PM
yeah but what i want is internal so that way nobody can know how fast my car really is and external work they will know.

LOL you are driving an eclipse and you don't want to do bolt-ons so that nobody can see how fast your car is. That is retarded. You think people don't already think your car is fast as hell just because its an eclipse? Where I'm from, cars like that don't exactly get named slow, unless they know its a N/T. Don't be dumb. I thought you were looking for performance, not what other people think about how fast your car is based on how nice the engine bay looks.

Listen to what people are telling you about not needing internals until you are pushing over 400 hp.

spyderturbo007
05-06-2005, 08:38 AM
And put your FUCKING car in your sig already. At 100+ posts you should have done that a long time ago.

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