Is this spec any good
ragt20
04-07-2002, 06:14 PM
this is the spec of the PC i'm lookin to get watcha think.......
AMD Athlon XP2100 (266mhz)
1024 pc2100 DDR ram
80gb hddisk
128mb nvidia Gforce 4 Ti 4600 grafix card
24x10x40 cdrw
16x DVD rom
OS - XP home edition
network card
Creative Audigy platinum sound card
DTT2000 5.1 channel speakers
mouse keyboard etc.....
inc 3yrs onsite warranty
:)
AMD Athlon XP2100 (266mhz)
1024 pc2100 DDR ram
80gb hddisk
128mb nvidia Gforce 4 Ti 4600 grafix card
24x10x40 cdrw
16x DVD rom
OS - XP home edition
network card
Creative Audigy platinum sound card
DTT2000 5.1 channel speakers
mouse keyboard etc.....
inc 3yrs onsite warranty
:)
Neutrino
04-08-2002, 01:20 AM
I'll say that is the latest atlhlon xp. But why not get like a xp 1900 or so litlle speed difference but mucho dinero difference.
and that is a lot of ram.
what chipset is the motherboard runnin? And also if you want only the latest stuff get a motherboard based on the via k333 that suports pc2700 ram.
and that is a lot of ram.
what chipset is the motherboard runnin? And also if you want only the latest stuff get a motherboard based on the via k333 that suports pc2700 ram.
MBTN
04-08-2002, 01:55 AM
No. Those specs are garbage. :rolleyes: Oh I'm sorry, I'm serving sarcastic sandwiches again. :D :bloated:
ragt20
04-08-2002, 02:58 AM
Originally posted by Neutrino
I'll say that is the latest atlhlon xp. But why not get like a xp 1900 or so litlle speed difference but mucho dinero difference.
and that is a lot of ram.
what chipset is the motherboard runnin? And also if you want only the latest stuff get a motherboard based on the via k333 that suports pc2700 ram.
well it comes standard with that athlon Xp so no point in changing that...
the motherboard unfortunatly isn't the latest 333, but its still not a bad Athlon XP (266mhz) motherboard
I'll say that is the latest atlhlon xp. But why not get like a xp 1900 or so litlle speed difference but mucho dinero difference.
and that is a lot of ram.
what chipset is the motherboard runnin? And also if you want only the latest stuff get a motherboard based on the via k333 that suports pc2700 ram.
well it comes standard with that athlon Xp so no point in changing that...
the motherboard unfortunatly isn't the latest 333, but its still not a bad Athlon XP (266mhz) motherboard
Neutrino
04-08-2002, 04:08 AM
Bottom line those are awesome specs.What are you paying fort it?
One thing i might change are the speakers. The Klipsch 5.1 should be better.
And make sure all the components are good brands. Because I saw many computers being sold with awesome specs but with some cheap components to save money. Something like a Linksys nic or a mb with a K266 chipset instead of 761 or K266A.
One thing i might change are the speakers. The Klipsch 5.1 should be better.
And make sure all the components are good brands. Because I saw many computers being sold with awesome specs but with some cheap components to save money. Something like a Linksys nic or a mb with a K266 chipset instead of 761 or K266A.
ragt20
04-08-2002, 07:34 AM
mb spec is as follows :
Athlon DDR/XP enabled
Form Factor - ATX
CPU Architecture - Socket A
Chipset - ALI Magick 1647
Frontside Bus - 266MHz
Memory Support - 2x DDR or 3x SDR DIMM
Maximum Memory - 2Gb DDR or 3Gb SDR
AGP Slot - 1x AGP Pro (1.5V Cards Only)
PCI Slot - 5x
AMR Slot - 1x
IDE Controller - 2x UDMA-133
Serial Ports - 2x UART
Parallel Ports - 1x EPP/ECP
USB Ports - 4x
Compliancy - PC99
price......b4 I tel, wot do ya think it should be approximately....
Athlon DDR/XP enabled
Form Factor - ATX
CPU Architecture - Socket A
Chipset - ALI Magick 1647
Frontside Bus - 266MHz
Memory Support - 2x DDR or 3x SDR DIMM
Maximum Memory - 2Gb DDR or 3Gb SDR
AGP Slot - 1x AGP Pro (1.5V Cards Only)
PCI Slot - 5x
AMR Slot - 1x
IDE Controller - 2x UDMA-133
Serial Ports - 2x UART
Parallel Ports - 1x EPP/ECP
USB Ports - 4x
Compliancy - PC99
price......b4 I tel, wot do ya think it should be approximately....
Neutrino
04-08-2002, 10:03 AM
Ali Magik chipset not good It will work but you loose way too muck performance. By far the best chipset for DDR 2100 is the Via Kt66A followed by the AMD 761. I very seriously recomend to do your best to get a mb with those chipsets or the K333. It is exactly what I was talking about that many companies build systems with excelent specs but cut corners to lower the price.
As for the price lets see some numbers. this is a system as i will build it and for the record I way serious about getting only the best stuff.
xp 2100 - 362$ note that xp 2000 is 100 less
MSI k7t 266 (via Kt266A chipset) - 117
cooler - 40
HD seagate baracuda IV 80GB 7200 RPM - 175
Toshiba DVD 16X - 70
Plextor 40X12X40 - 170
nic 3COM 905B-TX 10/100- PCI - 45
floppy - 14
audigy platinum - 200
case antec soho file server 350W - 130
1024 Pc 2100 samsung or micron - 350
titanium 4600 - 400
19 in samsung true flat monitor - 350
klipsch 5.1 - 300
Total 2700
but remember you can cut some money by gettin only512 ram and like a radeon 8500 without sacrificing any significant performance.
As for the price lets see some numbers. this is a system as i will build it and for the record I way serious about getting only the best stuff.
xp 2100 - 362$ note that xp 2000 is 100 less
MSI k7t 266 (via Kt266A chipset) - 117
cooler - 40
HD seagate baracuda IV 80GB 7200 RPM - 175
Toshiba DVD 16X - 70
Plextor 40X12X40 - 170
nic 3COM 905B-TX 10/100- PCI - 45
floppy - 14
audigy platinum - 200
case antec soho file server 350W - 130
1024 Pc 2100 samsung or micron - 350
titanium 4600 - 400
19 in samsung true flat monitor - 350
klipsch 5.1 - 300
Total 2700
but remember you can cut some money by gettin only512 ram and like a radeon 8500 without sacrificing any significant performance.
ragt20
04-08-2002, 11:51 AM
they said they've only just got the 333 mbs in, and are testing at the moment....so don't know when they'll launch them, might wait...
same here I'm trying to get the best, so it can last me a while without many problems.......
the price I've been quoted, (converted from £) $1949usd....but this doesn't include a monitor as i'm happy with the 19" I've currently got.
speakers the only ones they supply that I know of at the moment are,
Creative labs DTT2200
C Labs 5300 inspire
and some Videologic ones
never even heard of the klipsch 5.1 speakers :rolleyes:
same here I'm trying to get the best, so it can last me a while without many problems.......
the price I've been quoted, (converted from £) $1949usd....but this doesn't include a monitor as i'm happy with the 19" I've currently got.
speakers the only ones they supply that I know of at the moment are,
Creative labs DTT2200
C Labs 5300 inspire
and some Videologic ones
never even heard of the klipsch 5.1 speakers :rolleyes:
AEstud
04-08-2002, 01:57 PM
those are very good specs but processor speed is very slow
ACCORD EX
04-09-2002, 06:18 AM
man are you kidding ! :?? :eek:
good ??? that's great ! but what brand is the board ! i advise an ASUS !
MIKE
good ??? that's great ! but what brand is the board ! i advise an ASUS !
MIKE
ragt20
04-09-2002, 07:31 AM
yep the board an Asus....:):D
MBTN
04-09-2002, 02:04 PM
MSI is good too. :)
Neutrino
04-10-2002, 02:04 AM
Originally posted by ragt20
yep the board an Asus....:):D
Yes that is good brand. But that is not the point. The chipset is not good. Its a ferrari with a geo engine. And if you are going to get that computer try to get them to put in a mb with one of the chipsets that i mentiones.
And klipsh speakers are the rage here in the US maybe they just don't sell them in the UK.
yep the board an Asus....:):D
Yes that is good brand. But that is not the point. The chipset is not good. Its a ferrari with a geo engine. And if you are going to get that computer try to get them to put in a mb with one of the chipsets that i mentiones.
And klipsh speakers are the rage here in the US maybe they just don't sell them in the UK.
Neutrino
04-10-2002, 02:05 AM
Originally posted by AEstud
those are very good specs but processor speed is very slow
You are sarcastic right.
those are very good specs but processor speed is very slow
You are sarcastic right.
ACCORD EX
04-11-2002, 05:56 AM
so it 's an ASUS !
go and get it ! :D
MIKE
go and get it ! :D
MIKE
Neutrino
04-11-2002, 10:18 AM
Originally posted by ACCORD EX
so it 's an ASUS !
go and get it ! :D
MIKE
Guys please tell me you're joking. Just because the board is a ASUS doesn't mean he should get it LOOOK AT THE CHIPSET. If the norbrige is a piece of junk doesn't matter who makes the board. Please stop giving people bad advice.
so it 's an ASUS !
go and get it ! :D
MIKE
Guys please tell me you're joking. Just because the board is a ASUS doesn't mean he should get it LOOOK AT THE CHIPSET. If the norbrige is a piece of junk doesn't matter who makes the board. Please stop giving people bad advice.
ACCORD EX
04-11-2002, 11:54 AM
take it easy man ! he said it's ALI Magick 1647 !! another thing i wanna say to you ! i was working in system integration for 2 years ! and ASUS is the best ! never got problems installing or after that ! i have been buying ASUS since its 386 MODELS ! so when i say get it ! i lerned it the hard way after trying all the other shit !
long live the ASUS !! :ylsuper
sorry if got a little pissed ! peace ok ! ;)
MIKE
long live the ASUS !! :ylsuper
sorry if got a little pissed ! peace ok ! ;)
MIKE
ragt20
04-11-2002, 12:33 PM
...it is Ali magik 1647....wot is norbridge :confused:......but the thing that makes the big difference is that that is the top motherboard they sell at the moment...waitin for them to launch the new 333 mhz mbs is anyones guess at how long that would take.....other manufacturers don't come close in spec/price comparision...and even if they may have a better motherboard...the price difference doesn't justify going to them...
so its either bite the bullet and go for this one, or wait (for don't know how long) until these guys get the new MBs out....:confused: :rolleyes:
so its either bite the bullet and go for this one, or wait (for don't know how long) until these guys get the new MBs out....:confused: :rolleyes:
Polygon
04-12-2002, 01:23 AM
Well I must address a few things here.
ALI is an Aladdin chipset, and they are some of the worst EVER! I have gone through about five different ASUS boards with Aladdin chipsets and I have had nothing but problems. I ended up with an FIC on that system and it would without a hitch.
ASUS may have been a great motherboard manufacture a while back, but they aren't anymore. I used to work for a computer store where we built systems for corperate clients, so I build A LOT of computers. We used ASUS, MSI, Intel, and Tyan motherboards. ASUS had the highest fail rate of all four. I don't buy ASUS anymore, I stick with MSI and Tyan.
Boards with the 333MHz system bus are already out. Check MSI's website. You can buy them as we speak. Also Nuetrino mispelled that, he meant northbridge.
Now for what I think on these specs:
AMD Athlon XP2100 (266MHz).
1024 PC2100 DDR Ram.
80 GB Hard Drive.
128 MB nVidia GeForce 4 Ti 4600.
24x10x40 CD-RW.
16x DVD-Rom.
XP Home Edition.
Network Card.
Creative Audigy 5.1 Platinum.
DTT2000 5.1 channel speakers.
These are good specs, but there are some things that you may want to change to save you a little money. The processor choice is good, a nice fast AMD XP will do anything you probably need it to do. The first problem I see is with the RAM. Do you think you really need 1 GB of RAM? You would only need that if you were doing a lot, and I do mean A LOT of video and or audio editing/manipulation. I do a lot of both and graphics editing and creation in various programs and I get by just fine with 512 MB. I would cut that in half if I were you. Eighty GB hard drive, good size, I would stick with Seagate or Maxtor on the HDD. All the other brands seem to be unreliable right now. Good video card. Fast CD-RW, who make it? I would stick with Plextor, TDK, or HP with the CD-RW. Fast DVD drive, once again I suggest only Toshiba, they are the best. Here is the biggest problem, XP Home. For the system you are running you are going to want XP Pro NO QUESTION! XP Home is like 98 but a little more stable, FAT32 is not great with large hard drives like this and there are a lot of limitations with home. I HIGHLY suggest you get XP Pro. A NIC, once again, what brand? I would go with Intel, 3Com, or Netgear. Great sound card, you can't go wrong with the Live! series. Those are just my thoughts and suggestions.
ALI is an Aladdin chipset, and they are some of the worst EVER! I have gone through about five different ASUS boards with Aladdin chipsets and I have had nothing but problems. I ended up with an FIC on that system and it would without a hitch.
ASUS may have been a great motherboard manufacture a while back, but they aren't anymore. I used to work for a computer store where we built systems for corperate clients, so I build A LOT of computers. We used ASUS, MSI, Intel, and Tyan motherboards. ASUS had the highest fail rate of all four. I don't buy ASUS anymore, I stick with MSI and Tyan.
Boards with the 333MHz system bus are already out. Check MSI's website. You can buy them as we speak. Also Nuetrino mispelled that, he meant northbridge.
Now for what I think on these specs:
AMD Athlon XP2100 (266MHz).
1024 PC2100 DDR Ram.
80 GB Hard Drive.
128 MB nVidia GeForce 4 Ti 4600.
24x10x40 CD-RW.
16x DVD-Rom.
XP Home Edition.
Network Card.
Creative Audigy 5.1 Platinum.
DTT2000 5.1 channel speakers.
These are good specs, but there are some things that you may want to change to save you a little money. The processor choice is good, a nice fast AMD XP will do anything you probably need it to do. The first problem I see is with the RAM. Do you think you really need 1 GB of RAM? You would only need that if you were doing a lot, and I do mean A LOT of video and or audio editing/manipulation. I do a lot of both and graphics editing and creation in various programs and I get by just fine with 512 MB. I would cut that in half if I were you. Eighty GB hard drive, good size, I would stick with Seagate or Maxtor on the HDD. All the other brands seem to be unreliable right now. Good video card. Fast CD-RW, who make it? I would stick with Plextor, TDK, or HP with the CD-RW. Fast DVD drive, once again I suggest only Toshiba, they are the best. Here is the biggest problem, XP Home. For the system you are running you are going to want XP Pro NO QUESTION! XP Home is like 98 but a little more stable, FAT32 is not great with large hard drives like this and there are a lot of limitations with home. I HIGHLY suggest you get XP Pro. A NIC, once again, what brand? I would go with Intel, 3Com, or Netgear. Great sound card, you can't go wrong with the Live! series. Those are just my thoughts and suggestions.
Neutrino
04-12-2002, 01:43 AM
Polygon is exactly right.
Chris
04-13-2002, 09:15 AM
I got a nice Shuttle AK31A Rev. 3.1 mobo. It uses the KT266A chipset (second newest, other than KT333), it uses the VIA VT8366 chipset. Its got 5 PCI, 1 AGP, 1 CNR, up to 4 GB DDR RAM (PC1600 or PC2100). All that for $72 American. Then I bough a Thermalquake 7 heatsink locally for $20 American. So it is possible to get an almost top of the line system for really cheap.
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