13.1@106mph

just cause in the last thread so many people didnt believe than the Ld9 engine in cavalier Z24's could go anywhere, id like to show you a video of a 13.1 cavalier. This cavalier was done entirely on stock internals, clutch, trans, suspension, street tires. Also this was done with 10 PSI from a turbo.

http://www.airtonics.com/cavfan1/Jbody_drags/Jeff_F_13x1.WMV

its a dead end engine alright :rolleyes:

heh I guess you showed them... heh

good vid, that cavi really shot off like a bat out of hell but please don't try to turn this into an 'I told you so' thread. It will just make things worse with comments like "its a dead engine alright" because then it upsets whoever said that etc etc and it goes downhill from there.

Regardless of all that, I was wondering if the guy with the turbo cavi has a site by any chance to keep up with the condition of the car. I'm interested to see how its running and want to know if he's adding anymore to it. I guess since you know everything is stock besides the turbo kit there has to be a site somewhere that at least has some specs.
Thanks




Edit - checked out the site it came from, the guy has some other vids of pretty quick cavaliers too

http://www.airtonics.com/cavfan1

good stuff

So :screwy:....I could probably shut down just past half track and run a 13.1....












Just j/k man! lolol :biggrin:

That's a pretty cool Cavy and nice video. Talk about seriously damaging some EGOs with that car!

not sure how people will react to this post

he just dyno tuned got 238 whp and 269 wtq far from the breaking point of 270whp

this is his setup for that run, its all up todate

HO Intake Manifold
Upper and Lower Motor mounts
Oil Cooler
T3 Internal Gate Turbo - .48 Turbine - .60 Compressor with a 50 Trim Wheel
Spearco Intercooler 31" x 6" x 3"
Exploited Racing SS Turbo manifold
2.5" Intercooler piping
1G DSM BOV
440cc Ford Green Top Injectors
GM S/C 2 Bar Map Sensor
GM S/C Reflash
Greddy Emanage
Innovate Wideband
B & M Short Shifter

You mod any car and its gunna be fast. End of story, if you want i can show you a metro that runs 9s. Granted it has an ls1 but hey. :) I'ld also be willing to bet that guys got on DR or slicks. Your not going to get my respect by showing a token cavalier runnen low 13s and saying "dead end engine allright"

"Tires used were my 17" rims with Falken Azenis aired down to 22psi"

thats what was used no slicks he would have been in the 12's

"Tires used were my 17" rims with Falken Azenis aired down to 22psi"

thats what was used no slicks he would have been in the 12's

hmm well not bad.

lol i think people are running out of excuses to say that the cavalier LD9 engine has no potential.

... every engine has potential, some more then others. The LD9 is not god, its not a racecar engine, granted the bottem end and mb the heads are in a race car but i'm sure it has forged internals and a whole bunch of other good stuff. I get tired of people trying to gain respect for thier fixed up econo cars with a big HEY LOOK AT ME i'M FAST. It gets old fast. been there done that, good job your z24 can be made fast with ALOT of work. i'm glad you have pride in your car, thank god your not riceing in out and calling it done.

LD9 having no potential i was stating the obvious, a well built relatively high compresion motor. You boost it you break it, you wanna keep it, keep mild boost, you wanna boost higher start strengthening(is that a word?) the motor. When a boosted cavy thinks he is tough shit and starts callen out LS1's ima let him know how i feel. MB give him a lil insight that slappen on a supercharger and a few supporting mods does not in anyway mean your gunna beat any ls1 on the street. 80% of LS1s out there you see have somethen under the hood and will eat you for lunch. I'm not trying to make this a my engine is better then your engine thread. or a I see you riseing up so lemme squish your thread. I just don't like when people fix up there cars and decide they can beat anyone cause they surprise some rice.

Edit: how the? wth, where did jayson's reply go?

i deleted that thread, i thought it would cause trouble. but you got to it before i could.

Also the engine isnt that high of compression, 9.5:1 is the stock. And to think 10 PSI gave the car about a 100HP gain is really impressive. How many engines respond with 10HP per PSI? He dynoed a 238WHP at 10 PSI.

i deleted that thread, i thought it would cause trouble. but you got to it before i could.

i'm pretty crafty, i have kung fuu post watching skillz

i'm pretty crafty, i have kung fuu post watching skillz

forum whore!

pssst, jayson, we get it.

forum whore!

PERSON WHO HAS DUFFMAN IS HIS AVITAR!!!!!!

lol we are not saying the engine is god .. we are just saying its pretty good for a 4cyl tunner car, its one thats often over looked alot of the time but really shouldnt be as it can run sold times with few mods, that guy is far from having ALOT of mods like you say its just a standard turbo kit with a supporting exhaust thats it basicly, i really dont see your point in compairing a V8 to a 4banger anyways not very logical as of course a modern V8 will be faster.. it should be its 2x the size

our engine isnt god and no it cant hold 500whp like some other stock "turbo ready" 4 cyl but it does a really good job for what it is a 4 cyl N/A engine

lol we are not saying the engine is god .. we are just saying its pretty good for a 4cyl tunner car, its one thats often over looked alot of the time but really shouldnt be as it can run sold times with few mods, that guy is far from having ALOT of mods like you say its just a standard turbo kit with a supporting exhaust thats it basicly, i really dont see your point in compairing a V8 to a 4banger anyways not very logical as of course a modern V8 will be faster.. it should be its 2x the size

our engine isnt god and no it cant hold 500whp like some other stock "turbo ready" 4 cyl but it does a really good job for what it is a 4 cyl N/A engine

It is a pretty good tuner car. Only reason i made a reference to the LS1 is becuase you got a lil cocky and decided to call out Mr.Lous. Hey, i didn't want to bring up my car into this thread cause it is in no way related, but yes it can run 500whp on stock internals <insert bow here>

Has he taken a bunch of weight off that car??
Slicks would bump him into the 12's. Rather impressive.
How much more can that motor take , boost wise? I would think that is pushing it for the stock motor. Little more work though, and watch out.

no i dont think he did any major weight reduction, if he did he didnt mention it. I would imagine he removed the spare tire and did simple things like that.

The engine is about the max you want to go on stock internals as far as boost. But he can do alot more to the engine before it needs to be rebuilt with stronger internals.

haha...i never take the spare out when i race. what if i get a flat? :( And yeah..I bet theres a little disclaimer at the bottom of the page you're getting your information from that says "Mr. Cavy racer went on to make one more 13 second pass before his shit blew up. The end."

It has more cylinders, you have a turbo, its a fair game.

And yeah..I bet theres a little disclaimer at the bottom of the page you're getting your information from that says "Mr. Cavy racer went on to make one more 13 second pass before his shit blew up. The end."
That I will doubt. With a very good tune, I am sure that car is pretty reliable.

The problem is that he is one car. Jayson and Orange Z are a couple of the S/C'd guys. Most the the J-Body crowd doesn't do anything for performance. Must be too much work for most of them or something.

damn, this is an EXACT repeat of the last thread, with the same shit said. let it lie...

From my experiences cavaliers aren't reliable stock..throw some F/I on them and run them down the 1/4 mile to some low 13 second passes...and I can't see it lasting too long.

From my experiences cavaliers aren't reliable stock..throw some F/I on them and run them down the 1/4 mile to some low 13 second passes...and I can't see it lasting too long.

agreed :)

Not too shabby - but before you go blabbing about how this makes up for all the crap J-bodies get, consider that all-motor, street-legal Hondas are running that time, and better nowadays. And I'm not a big fan of Hondas (anymore).

What is it with Cavalier owners? Is it a persecution complex?

the 2.4 are great engine as far as things not breaking on them its mostly everything else on the cavalier that will go first lol but for the most part they hold up really good, the 2.2 sohv engines are another story and they are the reasoning we get all the bad rap, besides if FI wasnt reliable dampachi then gm wouldnt have ever made a supercharger kit for the car...

o and by the way i was being sarcastic when i called out mr lous in the other forum but them things are kinda hard to see in text lol i ment no disrespect

also like jayson said the engine is usally maxed out around 10-13psi (depending on turbo size) on stock interals after that though the engine still has about another 30whp that can still be found else where like a built head and what not before anything starts to break

Not too shabby - but before you go blabbing about how this makes up for all the crap J-bodies get, consider that all-motor, street-legal Hondas are running that time, and better nowadays. And I'm not a big fan of Hondas (anymore).

What is it with Cavalier owners? Is it a persecution complex?


first this is the cars stock engine any honda running this n/a on the street probley doesnt have its stock engine no more, secondly they probley put 5x the money into the engine do you know how much it cost to build a fast n/a car well its not cheap thats for sure and they are probably running 110 octain fuel on top of that lol but i do have to admit 12 and 13 second n/a cars are bad ass any brand

we are just trying to keep the view of things in the same class so if we could just compare simular setups in other cars that are 4cyl thats fine if ya wanna do that

compare the car for what its worth its a reliable 4 cyl N/A engine not a large V8

just thought i throw in that you can make these engines fast for all out N/A as well and most the stuff you can get straight from gm as the 2.3 and 2.4 parts are interswapable

we are not out to disrespect other peoples cars just to show you guys what ours can do as we know that not many people have seen something like this becuase up till now not many people wanted to invest in the j platform and not because the platform sucked but becuase everything was to expensive, now things have gone down options have gone up and we are startinng to see a boom in FI J-bodys

5k in mods on a honda to run 13s? mb if you include the new motor. tell me how much you spent to run 13s? Honestly i don't care about a cavalier that can run mid 14s its still a cavalier. I wont have to look out for em cause i am still gunna run faster. If anything you lost repect for your car. Alot of the J-bodies owners are very modest and don't care if someone knows they are fast or not. Bragging on the internet to try to get respect is gunna have the opposite affect.

Damn i was looking for this vid i saw a while back, it was this french vid of these guys trying to get a civic to die on them. First they tried just hitten the E-brake and putting a rock on the gas so see if bouncing off the revlimiter and doen a burnout would kill it but they gave up after a while. The tried putten bananas in the exhaust ports but the civ just shot them out on start up. Then they eventually drained the oil and replaced it with water and slammed on the gas. all the water evaporated out and it died after a good 10 mins of that. They put more water into the motor and it started right back up. They did bounced it off the rev limiter for another 10 mins tell it eventually died. I figured that would be a good movie to post considering we are talken about engine abuse.

But while i was searchen for that vid i found a have dec car vid site

http://www.streetracersonline.com/videos/

http://www.imvfilms.com/films.php

How many engines respond with 10HP per PSI?.

most turbocharged cars.

thats actually what most people go by 10hp per psi cause thats how most cars that are turbocharged respond to turning up the boost.

actually 10hp per psi is an average. its not that big of a deal.

there's honda's that do the same thing as this. regardless cool vid

most turbocharged cars.

thats actually what most people go by 10hp per psi cause thats how most cars that are turbocharged respond to turning up the boost.

actually 10hp per psi is an average. its not that big of a deal.

there's honda's that do the same thing as this. regardless cool vid

jesus 10 hp per psi? that would leave me with 80 whp with no turbo :(

I have that vid somewhere on my comp, if someone could host it, I bet I could send it to them. Also, if I had to chose, I'd take the Dodge...but thats just me. While I agree that yes, this car can be built to go fast, so can any car. Shit, I could get a turbo for my car, toss on some support mods, crank up the boost, and run bad ass times too.

I have that vid somewhere on my comp, if someone could host it, I bet I could send it to them. Also, if I had to chose, I'd take the Dodge...but thats just me. While I agree that yes, this car can be built to go fast, so can any car. Shit, I could get a turbo for my car, toss on some support mods, crank up the boost, and run bad ass times too.

I have a sweet SRvid with a bunch of turbo m3's that vid is crazy. If you haven't seen it i can prolly find it or just send u it.

I probably have it, lol. Its probably Dado and his bunch from DTM. Those E36 ///M3s are mad with the AA turbo. Hes put about 150k into his car (not a typo, its from his mouth...well keyboard), and it runs low 11s on "low boost" (11psi). He claims it can handle much more boost, and that the 11.3xxx pass was just a "test" to see where he is. I was hoping to see him in action back when I was in DC, but no such luck.

I probably have it, lol. Its probably Dado and his bunch from DTM. Those E36 ///M3s are mad with the AA turbo. Hes put about 150k into his car (not a typo, its from his mouth...well keyboard), and it runs low 11s on "low boost" (11psi). He claims it can handle much more boost, and that the 11.3xxx pass was just a "test" to see where he is. I was hoping to see him in action back when I was in DC, but no such luck.

you prolly do, its the one where it starts out and there are 4 or 5 turbo m3s and they are doen burnouts in a parking lot. I think all of em were asain guys in their early to mid 20s. (daddy bough it mb?) Pretty sweet m3s looks fast as f@ck.

I probably have it, lol. Its probably Dado and his bunch from DTM. Those E36 ///M3s are mad with the AA turbo. Hes put about 150k into his car (not a typo, its from his mouth...well keyboard), and it runs low 11s on "low boost" (11psi). He claims it can handle much more boost, and that the 11.3xxx pass was just a "test" to see where he is. I was hoping to see him in action back when I was in DC, but no such luck.


think to your self for a second how many brand new j-bodies you could buy for the price of a m3 but why would anyone want that many anyways haha lol i would hope it would go alot faster then 11's with 150k into the car ...... maybe bs i dunno ether that or gold plated subs maybe?? lol nice cars ether way

i seen that vid with the honda not dieing pretty good but still thats not really what we are talking about now is it naa moving on....

so yeah and nowadays it cost around 2-3k to make that cavy run that time factor in the car only cost about the same you got a low 13 sec tunner car for 6-7k.. not to bad i guess, its all in what ya like

think to your self for a second how many brand new j-bodies you could buy for the price of a m3 lol anyways i would hope it go alot faster then 11's with 150k into the car ...... maybe bs i dunno ether that or gold plated subs maybe?? lol nice cars ether way

o yeah and nowadays it cost around 2-3k to make that cavy run that time factor in the car only cost about the same you got a low 13 sec street car for 6-7k

dood, don't get cassie started. He is in love with the M3 why in the hell would he get an ugly ass j-body when he could buy when m3 and dump 150k into it?

Orangez, go wathc any of the mischief vids. you see that yellow M3, thats Dados car. And why the hell would I buy a fleet of POS Cavaliers and modify them to 13.1 when I can buy a beautiful ///M3 thats already 13.1-12.9 car? I'm outy, peace.

dude cool it!, it was a reference as to that we went off topic here i didnt say anything bad about the m3's they are very nice cars and i even said so

besides i changed my post be for you even posted yours to show it would be stupid to do that anyways

Heh, we're done here...

OMG i said why would anyone wanna do that anyways geeus