Mudding witha 2wd?

When I told my friend I have a 300 I6, he said it rocked and that I should get All terrain T/As and take it to the mud. I asked him if I cold do that with an auto 2wd, and he said yes.

I thought I'd get a second opinion on this...

I would not recemend taking it mudding. That is just asking for trouble. The only two wheel drive car you should take in the mud would be something like a sand rail.

you could if you want, it all depends on how much you value your truck. i know i wouldnt and i have an 300 I-6, it has nothing to do with the engine anyway. It all in the rear-end, and if that truck of yours is stock or close to stock, you most likely dont have posi.

Thank FTO, I had my worries about taking his advice..

Positrack is where both wheels turn at the same time, right? why don't they have that on all vehicles?

Thank FTO, I had my worries about taking his advice..

Positrack is where both wheels turn at the same time, right? why don't they have that on all vehicles?

Yes. Its cheaper to produce cars without it.

tturnpaw is exactly right, most car manufactures try to save as much money when making cars as they can.. now i think some off-road and the SVT packages come with posi, but you pay the differance in $$$.

Cost and....Drivability:
Posis and Limited Slips in general can make the occasional noise as they engage and disengage their clutchpacks or other systems. Also, clutchpack using limited slips require special gearlube additives to keep the clutches working properly. If the lockup is solid on a limited slip diff, you can also have slightly more trouble going around corners as the outside wheel needs to spin faster than the inside; if the diff doesn't let them rotate freely, they can bind and sometimes squeak a tire.

Besides: In 95% of daily life, you don't need posi-traction, limited slip diffs or other forms of such mechanical traction aid. So why bother with the added expense and maintenace from the factory?

On the mudding part: It isn't advised if you have an open diff. However, if you do decide to try it, there are a few things I need to suggest: Make sure you have a friend with a second vehicle there,
Keep your revs up, and use speed to get through the mud,
If you do get bogged down, do NOT sit and floor it repeatedly: You'll just overheat your engine, transmission, and axle. Get help to pull you out.
And mount strong friggin tow hooks to your frame. Bolt them on using Grade 8 bolts, and preferably an 1/8 inch piece of bracing plate on the opposide side of the frame (sandwich the frame between the tow hook and the plate). The reason I suggest the bracing plate of steel, is so that if you do need to use the tow hooks, there is much less risk of them warping your frame, and it provides an even stronger mounting point (useful for hauling 2000+ pounds of mired truck). If you can, mount 4, two at each end. If not, 2 at the minimum, one in front, one in the rear.
This is so that someone doesn't stupidly attach a tow strap to your truck's front suspension or rear axle, and potentially damage your truck.

see folks mudding the 2wd's all the time,most of them are drunk and in the process of blowing up the motor.go have some fun just don't do anything dumb that would tear up your truck.
as for the posi....corners and ice one time in a posi equipped car or truck and you'll see why they don't put them on everything.

Thats also why you dont drive on ice in the first place. And most people, if they do, drive in 4wd. Plenty of cars have posi, and with out it, on ice both wheels would spin regardless.

so from what you say when it snows or sleets the only people out driving have 4wd?and how can you help but not drive on ice when it's all over the road?
when you have a posi both tires spin at the same rate right?and when it's dry or you can get suitable traction it will let the one tire slip as you turn a corner right?well here where we live we gets lots of snow and ice and when you go around a corner in an open diff car or truck,normal driving of course,only one tire is getting power so you can turn the corner with out the rear sliding out.now with the posi rear both tires are spinng the same speed and there isn't sufficent traction for the the posi to slip the one tire so the rear slides.wheter you are doing 15 or 50 mph.
most 4x4 aren't 4wd drive any way,they might have a rear locker in some(factory)but not in the front.factory that is.

with a limited slip and good tires, a good driver can go places in 2wd that an idiot with no skill and 4wd cant even think about going. i still wouldnt recommend muddin in a 2wd unless there's someone there to pull ya out.

Highboy, When you take a turn on ice, BOTH tires will spin, its happened to me and i bet its happened to half the people here. I didnt say that you couldnt drive around in a 2wd in the snow and ice. but if you seriuously wanna see the results of a 2wd in snow and ice take a look: http://media.ebaumsworld.com/index.php?e=wintercarslide.wmv

Now, if you still wanna argue the point, go ahead but your wrong.

don't think you read my post good enuff.no i am not wrong about the way they both function.and i'm sure if you knew half as much as you thought you would know that.so if you want to argue please educate yourself with the way a rear axle functions please.
what does that vid clip have to do with a rear wheel drive car turning a corner?and all them were front wheel drive also.which of course doesn't have an axle like a rwd.

It was the point, and i dont appriciate being called down on what i do know. I wouldnt be posting if i didnt. If you wanna still call me down on it thats fine, but you need to take it somewhere else. Ive slipped around in a non-posi axle before on wet pavement. Most have, i know on dry pavement i cant spin both but on ice, its more than clausable. To the result of only one tire spinning on ice, you must have one heavy ass vehicle. Every time ive ever taken a corner with ice on it, both tires have spun, its the slick ice thats letting it not your rear axle.

Now can we please get off this subject, Its not even about mudding with a 2wd anymore.

my point is the design diff between the two not what people can do on the road.like in my post the open is DESIGNED so that the tires don't get equal power around corners.
the posi or locking diff needs resistance from the road surface to help it disengage to let the one side slip as turn the corner.
like i said before if you knew how the axles worked we wouldn't be arguing.

I know WHAT they are designed for, but the fact of the matter is the guy who started the thread dosent give a damn what they are designed for, im telling him what he needs to know. Like i said, lets get back on the subject please. Plus, not all anti-posi axles are designed to switch power to a certain wheel in turning or by weight in general, Borg Warner made a(n) axle that delivered power to both wheels unless a wheel was restricted by something other than weight.

"Positrack is where both wheels turn at the same time, right? why don't they have that on all vehicles?"
sounds like a question about posi to me.what bw axle are you talking about?

I don't think the extent of his question went quite this far. Borg warner made a rear axle for chrysler called the Chrysler 8-3/4 - 1/4" 28148 rear axle, they designed it to not let loose so much when weight shifted to one side, it was no positrack though.

no i don't think so either.well atleast he knows now huh?

Yeah, i'd say he knows what it is.. haha.