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NeonAtron
04-20-2005, 02:52 PM
I got a pioneer head unit and (out of pure boredom and stupidity) I hooked my amp up to my back speakers one day and the player never worked since. But today, I was looking at it and I noticed the fuse was blown. So is it any chance of repairing it? Maybe replace the fuse? Thanx for the help.

bjboertje
04-20-2005, 02:56 PM
yeah, replace the fuse, you probably just touched a couple of wires together that shouldn't be and blew it.

germanyt
04-20-2005, 03:08 PM
its not a pioneer problem. pioneers makes awesome head units. i dont know why people dont think so. i have the p650 and i love it.

germanyt
04-20-2005, 03:08 PM
its not a pioneer problem. pioneers makes awesome head units. i dont know why people dont think so. i have the p650 and i love it.

germanyt
04-20-2005, 03:08 PM
its not a pioneer problem. pioneers makes awesome head units. i dont know why people dont think so. i have the p650 and i love it.

bjboertje
04-20-2005, 03:18 PM
why did you say that three times?

ngsm13
04-20-2005, 03:20 PM
why did you say that three times?

cuz he's a dummy ;)

NG

bjboertje
04-20-2005, 03:21 PM
oh.

germanyt
04-20-2005, 03:22 PM
i hit the stop and refresh a couple times cuz the internet was moving too slow. must have posted each time...oops

NeonAtron
04-22-2005, 06:40 PM
aaah. Trying to get extra post points are we? j/p I replaced the fuse twice and both of them blew as soon as i put them inside! So now I really don't know what the problem is. And I don't want to give up on it, because I just KNOW as soon as go out and buy another one, sombodys gonna figure out the problem with the old one. So, any ideas would help. thx.

germanyt
04-22-2005, 06:59 PM
if the fuses are blowing then it is most likely a problem somewhere between where the power wire comes into the h/u and the fuse. my guess is a shorted resistor. the h/u is made to be hooked up to like a 12 - 14 volt power source but that might not be what is required by it. the h/u might only need 10 volts to power it and 12 - 14 could cause it to fry, so to get 14 volts down to 10 you need a resistor. the purpose of the fuse would be so that if the resistor did short, the 14 volts would not get past it into the h/u circuitry. with that said, i would not recommend trying to put a larger fuse in. you could fry the deck. obviously im not positive about this because i dont have scematics or a wiring diagram in front of me. but i will tell you that if that is what is wrong, you might as well get a new deck. unless you have some spare resistors and a soldering iron laying around.

CBFryman
04-22-2005, 09:13 PM
that or the HU is fucked, and it is causing a current overload... if you shorted out the RCA's to the chassis it is likely you killed the HU...

PaulD
04-23-2005, 09:18 PM
if the fuses are blowing then it is most likely a problem somewhere between where the power wire comes into the h/u and the fuse. my guess is a shorted resistor. the h/u is made to be hooked up to like a 12 - 14 volt power source but that might not be what is required by it. the h/u might only need 10 volts to power it and 12 - 14 could cause it to fry, so to get 14 volts down to 10 you need a resistor. the purpose of the fuse would be so that if the resistor did short, the 14 volts would not get past it into the h/u circuitry. with that said, i would not recommend trying to put a larger fuse in. you could fry the deck. obviously im not positive about this because i dont have scematics or a wiring diagram in front of me. but i will tell you that if that is what is wrong, you might as well get a new deck. unless you have some spare resistors and a soldering iron laying around.

what in the world are you talking about ........ I don't know about him, but you sure got me confused

Diceman83
04-24-2005, 01:12 AM
I think I know what he's saying... he's saying that there's a short somewhere that's allowing too much current to pass into the head unit. He's telling NeoAtron to open it up, poke around inside with a ohm meter, and find the short and replace whatever it is that's shorted.

That's a pretty advanced procedure to expect a person that fried it trying to hook the head unit up to an amp... no offence NeonAtron.

CBFryman
04-24-2005, 01:37 PM
oh yes, that is a good idea....send someone who has little knowledge of how a componet works into fix it.... :rolleyes:
sometimes i wonder :screwy:

NeonAtron
04-24-2005, 08:50 PM
uh...guys....im still here!!! lol j/p....i think i see what you guys are saying. I so i guess maybe i should look into getting another head unit huh? If it matters it is a 10v fuse, not a 12v. But thanks for the help.

p.s. Maybe one day (out of pure boredom and, not so much stupidity) ill try to fix it ;)

Diceman83
04-24-2005, 09:34 PM
uh, fuses are NOT voltage tripped... the number on it is AMPS, not VOLTS. It's rated for 10 amps, so if you're replacing them with some smaller number, it's not suprising that it's blowing them. Try calling pioneer and see what they say. Also, if you still have all the wires and RCA's and stuff attached when you put it in, you could try having just the power lines and the ground connected. Just a thought.

PaulD
04-24-2005, 09:55 PM
just as I figured, germany confused the hell out of Neon too. In my 20+ years doing electronics work, I have never seen a resistor go bad by shorting out - they always open up. Transistors, diodes and the such ... now that's another matter.

germanyt
04-25-2005, 02:19 AM
ive seen it happen alot. but im an electronics technician. i work with lots of equipment everyday. i guess that was a little too much to tell someone that didn't even understand how fuses work. not his fault though, i jumped the gun.

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