Need Help...please!!!

All right, I had a bad "tick" noise...lifter I guess. I did the Sea Foam thing and the ATF thing and the noise went away almost completely. Now, I went to Jiffy Lube to change the oil and they put in 10W-30 Pennzoil synthetic blended oil. The truck ran great for about 10 minutes and then all of a sudden bang "TICK" came back loud as ever. I am at a loss don't know what to do. Could it be the oil? Maybe I should switch to conventional. PLEASE HELP.

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is 10w 30 thinker then 5w30?

I run 5w30

I don't know. It could be, do you think this is the problem. If it is I'll get rid of the 10W-30 and put in 5W-30. How about 20W-50 I think this is pretty thicker than 10W-30.
Should I use Sea Foam again or the ATF?

Thanks

Check the oil level. These places are notorious for underfilling. Good luck.

Thanks, I checked it out already and it looks fine. What if I put in a quart of thicker oil like 20W-50? Think that may help

I personally would not run anything other than 0w-30, 5w-30 or 10w-30 in your 1996 (3.2L I presume). No 40 or 50wts. The orifices in the hydraulic lash adjusters are very small & thick oils will only make a top end tick worse.
G/luck
Joel

Joel,

Thanks for the advise what do you think of the Sea Foam or ATF?

Luis

Seafoam is a good product & adding it to your engine oil should help clean out clogged lifters. In some cases, adding ATF can help as well by thinning out the engine oil. ATF's of today are not much more than a 20wt oil, a small add pack (often manufacturer specific) & red dye. ATF's of years ago actually contained whale oil which was an EXCELLENT cleaning agent. That was about 30yrs ago. Old habits hang around for a loooong time.
G/luck
Joel

Thanks Joel,

I'll try the ATF and see what happens. Keep you guys posted.

Any other advise from anybody else with similar situations would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Luis

Any other advise from anybody else with similar situations would be greatly appreciated.



Don't use Penzoil. Worst oil you can use other than recycled oil. I use Napa oil which is Valvoline in a Napa bottle. Another excellent oil is Kendall, but its hard to find in some areas.

Thanks Joel,

I'll try the ATF and see what happens. Keep you guys posted.

Any other advise from anybody else with similar situations would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Luis

Don't go to places like Jiffy Lube. Take it to the dealer, or do yourself.

OK now what do I do.....I tried the ATF and absolutely nothing. I still ticks something ferocious. Never did it sound like that before the oil change. Should I go back to conventional see if that helps, or does it really matter if its synthetic or conventional??? My wife is going nuts with the ticking!!!!

OK now what do I do.....I tried the ATF and absolutely nothing. I still ticks something ferocious. Never did it sound like that before the oil change. Should I go back to conventional see if that helps, or does it really matter if its synthetic or conventional??? My wife is going nuts with the ticking!!!!


Are you saying you've always used conventional and just recently switched to synthetic? And this is when the ticking started??

If so, go back to conventional oil. If you have more then 100K miles, I would not recommend switching to synthetic at that point.

I use nothing but straight Dino (conventional) Havoline 10W-30 in my 97 V6 Rodeo - never have had a single tick in over 137K miles.

If it works, don't fix it!

Just my .02cents

I am definately going to go back to conventional oil. Forget this synthetic stuff. I just hope it corrects the problem.....

Keep you guys updated. Thanks.

My oil of choice is Castrol 10w-30. Always worked great in my subarus, now using it in my 2000 passport. In my subaru, i would change the oil every 9000 miles, which was 3 months of highway driving, and added a quart of lucas at the oil change, and the oil came out smoothe and shiny, not gritty. i am changing my oil in the passport at 3-4000 mile increments using the lucas and castrol as mentioned, and getting the same smoothe and shiny when drained. Never any noises. 45000 miles on the passport. My 2 cents

Never had any trouble with 10W-30 by Valvoline in any of my vehicles. Always changed between 3 and 4 K.

Thanks for all of your 2 cents worth of feedback. Keep adding the 2 cents and you end up with a wealth of info. Keep you posted.

Thanks,
Luis

I am definately going to go back to conventional oil. Forget this synthetic stuff. I just hope it corrects the problem.....

Keep you guys updated. Thanks.


While I don't recommend Lucas additives, I think "Bob the oil guy", not quite sure what the webpage address is for sure. But he's done a study on Lucas products (If I recall right) added to oil in which it wasn't a good outcome.

I've never added a single drop of oil additive, but I do religiously every 3K mile oil/filter changes. I do NOT recommend going above 3K miles, these Isuzu's like clean oil.

I personally have never seen the point in synthetic oil, at least not in the Isuzu engines, as these trucks seem to fair much better with very frequent oil changes, and thus defeats the purpose/cost of synthetic oils.

IMHO, from my own stubborness, don't think I'd ever go to synthetics personally, in any engine (unless it came from factory that way), as I've been religiously born/raised into the 3K mile regimen; and I don't think my mind would be at ease increasing that mileage.

Hope this has helped some, keep us posted!

Well, I switched back to conventional 10W-30(Havoline), but really haven't driven around much so much hasn't changed yet (still ticking...alot), but I guess I'll know tomorrow when drive around a bit.

Keep you guys posted thanks.

What I recommend is running that new oil for about 1,500-2K miles then change it & filter again, sooner then usual. And before dumping it, get that oil good & hot before undoing the drain bolt.

May want to wait 10-15 minutes after driving it for about 20-30 minutes or so. But the hotter the oil, better to get the crud out.

Also, what kind of filter are you using? I have tried, over the years, Mobil 1, AC-Delco, Bosch, Fram (only once), three out of those 4 made my truck "tick" and my truck's not a ticker.

If your truck has never been a ticker, and IS now a ticker, check the quality/name of that filter. They could've also put a low-quality filter on there.

I've since gone back to only Isuzu OEM filters.

My 3.2L will tick if I don't keep the oil level pretty close to full or let the change slide to around 4K.

Guess what...changed to conventional and the TICK is gone. I can't believe that from one type of oil to another it makes such a big difference. WHY IS THAT????

Guys thanks for all the help couldn't have figured it out without all the input.

Synthetic is more slippery, so maybe it is not able to "stick" to the lifters as well.

time will tell ....

Guess what...changed to conventional and the TICK is gone. I can't believe that from one type of oil to another it makes such a big difference. WHY IS THAT????

Guys thanks for all the help couldn't have figured it out without all the input.

Did you change anything else? The type of filter perhaps? I only ask this because I fail to understand how having synthetic oil in a vehicle for 10 minutes will cause it to tick. Lifter tick, as I understand, is caused by the hydraulic lash adjusters not fully extending. While varnish build up seems to be the main culprit, I've heard that lower than normal oil pressure to the lash adjuster can also cause it to "not fully extend". If your engine didn't tick before Jiffy Lube got ahold of it, 10 minutes worth of synthetic oil is not going to cause it to varnish up. Additionally, the oil pressure of an equivalent weight of synthetic oil should be the same as that of Dino Oil. I was just wondering if maybe the filter Jiffy Lube installed was the culprit. I've read other vehicle forums (Ford Probe, Mitsu, etc) where owners have experienced lifter tick with any filter that wasn't an OEM filter regardless of the type of oil used.

As we all know though, Isuzu lifter tick seems to be a strange beast. Some oil and filter combinations work on some vehicles, but on others they cause it to sound like a sewing machine.

Anyway, glad to hear you fixed the tick.

I believe Jiffy Lube uses a Pennzoil filter. But, I used a Fram oil filter and Havoline oil. I don't get it either, why some things work on some Rodeo and not on others, but thank goodness this particular chapter on my Rodeo list of things to do is taken care of.

Again, thanks for all the input.