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'03 Cobra vs. '94 TT Supra


Muscletang
04-16-2005, 09:02 PM
http://www.street-racing-videos.com/downloads/pafiledb.php?action=file&id=126

This is probably the best street racing video I've seen in a while. They do four races in this one. There's two 40 mph rolls, one 50 mph roll, and one from a stop. I hope everybody enjoys.

BadA$$Snake
04-16-2005, 09:53 PM
I bow my head to you, that vid rocked. I wish I was rich so I to can enjoy romping TT Supra's with a Snake of my own.

GForce957
04-16-2005, 10:59 PM
Muscletang i commend you sir. Good work

Mr. Luos
04-16-2005, 11:50 PM
DAMN!!!
I was hoping this was the video of that Supra toasting that 500 RWHP Cobra.

I was SO going to post the Trans Am smoking that Supra.

Great vid.

TatII
04-17-2005, 01:49 AM
awesome video. i guess the supra was out of its power band in every other speed other then 40mph cause thats the only race where it would actually catch the cobra and pass it. judging from the mods the supra got, i would assume 350ish whp. hes missing a few things to have 450whp. either way it was a cool vid.

Boosted1
04-17-2005, 07:28 AM
DAMN!!!
I was hoping this was the video of that Supra toasting that 500 RWHP Cobra.

I was SO going to post the Trans Am smoking that Supra.

Great vid.

POST IT ANYWAY. :smokin: Great vid, those Cobras work awesome and respond well to mods. Rock solid engine too IMO. Simple pulley swap and bolt ons, they eat most cars.

Ghost96Gt
04-17-2005, 09:33 AM
yeah that was awsome dude really close race. you could tell that the surpa was better or more aerodynamic then the corba bc once they were in the 100's pry 130 the surpa started pulling back in and caught back yup. that was still a awsome race the corba sounded amazing.

Mr. Luos
04-17-2005, 10:55 AM
POST IT ANYWAY. :smokin:
I am sure most have seen this....but here it is again. I have bought a couple things off the owner of this Trans Am. My cam being the biggest part. Anyways.....enjoy.
http://www.hsvracing.com/~upload/TightAsAMug/TTA-vs-supra.avi

Oh....RIGHT CLICK....SAVE AS

1993_GT
04-17-2005, 11:31 AM
DAMN!!!
I was hoping this was the video of that Supra toasting that 500 RWHP Cobra.

I was SO going to post the Trans Am smoking that Supra.

Great vid.

Cobra 450+ HP -- Supra 350+ HP== Winner everytime COBRA>>>

Mr. Luos
04-17-2005, 11:42 AM
Cobra 450+ HP -- Supra 350+ HP== Winner everytime COBRA>>>
We are thinking of two different things. There is a video of a 600HP Supra smoking a 500HP Cobra. Then after that, you get the video I posted, of the Trans Am eating said 600HP Supra.

Nothing to do with the video posted to start this thread.

gti1689
04-17-2005, 03:21 PM
soooo, how much hp is that TA puttin down?

i have a couple of videos of this exact supra. btw, is the TA guy on LSITECH? i know the supra guy is on bimmerforums, and i think he might also be on LSITECH. He's in Florida, so i woulldn't be surprised if this is the case.

video-1: supra running against cobra (w/a TA in the mix...this one didn't win)
http://www.putfile.com/media.php?n=PHRGT67SupravsCobra67

video-2: same supra on the dyno w/some acceleration clips
http://www.putfile.com/media.php?n=BradDyno

Mr. Luos
04-17-2005, 04:23 PM
That Trans Am makes 725+ RWHP.
He is on LS1Tech. Colorado Springs resident.

-The Stig-
04-17-2005, 05:23 PM
That Trans Am makes 725+ RWHP.
He is on LS1Tech. Colorado Springs resident.


Pfft... He's got nothing on my Econoline. :grinno:

Mr. Luos
04-17-2005, 05:37 PM
Pfft... He's got nothing on my Econoline. :grinno:
You are right. :icon16:

He is only running a T80. :lol:

drftk1d
04-18-2005, 05:22 PM
i will say it once again, Supras are FAT.

CivRacer95
04-18-2005, 05:39 PM
That Supra did a pretty good job at keeping up. What is the deal with all the Cobra vs Supra races lately? I swear I've seen like 20 vids about those two cars racing. Still, I liked it. It was a well done vid. L8...

CassiesMan
04-18-2005, 05:40 PM
Good vids. Still, for some reason, it seems to be the battle that never ends. For every Cobra that kicks a Supras ass, there is another Supra that can whup a Cobra. And For every Supra that whups a Cobras ass, there is a Cobra to whup that Supra. Its a viscious, never ending cycle. I used to want a Supra sooooooo bad...changed my mind after realizing everybody and their brother basicaly owns a Supra. Of all teh street racing vids, I think 80% of them have a Supra somewhere in them.

Muscletang
04-18-2005, 06:07 PM
What is the deal with all the Cobra vs Supra races lately? I swear I've seen like 20 vids about those two cars racing.

All the sites I seem to go to have at least one Supra in the race. As I said though this is the best one I've seen.

Anyway, if you're tired of the Supra vs Cobra races here is one I'm sure you'll love.

http://www.users.qwest.net/~williamsbryanmic/videos/streetracing/69Camaro_Supra.wmv

drftk1d
04-18-2005, 06:22 PM
All the sites I seem to go to have at least one Supra in the race. As I said though this is the best one I've seen.

Anyway, if you're tired of the Supra vs Cobra races here is one I'm sure you'll love.

http://www.users.qwest.net/~williamsbryanmic/videos/streetracing/69Camaro_Supra.wmv


i remember that one from a while back. total annihilation.

drvngstorm05
04-19-2005, 12:25 AM
All the sites I seem to go to have at least one Supra in the race. As I said though this is the best one I've seen.

Anyway, if you're tired of the Supra vs Cobra races here is one I'm sure you'll love.

http://www.users.qwest.net/~williamsbryanmic/videos/streetracing/69Camaro_Supra.wmv

i must say i'm in love w/ that clip :evillol:

Boosted1
04-19-2005, 05:50 AM
Definitely good videos, and hey, I can't complain about the rivalry! Lovin' it. I have seen that vid already that Mr. Luos put up...the TA in that vid is absolutely SICK. :iceslolan

CassiesMan
04-19-2005, 01:14 PM
The sickest thing about that Turbo'd TA is that the Supra walked away from a Cobra doing a buck sixty.

Boosted1
04-19-2005, 02:45 PM
I saw a pretty funny vid of a S/C SS racing a BMW 5 series (it might have been older). The camera was in the Bimmer and they NEVER let off...just kept accelerating and accelerating forever...within 15 seconds the SS was out of sight on this long straight stretch. It was quite funny actually. I'll check to see if I still have it. That car was nutty fast. Oh precious LS1 power. One of my neighbors just got out his black WS6 in PERFECT condition. Mmmmmmmmm.

chexmixa
04-19-2005, 02:50 PM
Even if i am gunna get romped by supras and what not i'll take an 03/04 cobra over any other car any day of the week. Change the pully in that beast and listen to the whine. I def think supras are awsome cars and have HUGE potential. Those single turbo supras put out MASSIVE numbers. But not being able to race below 100mph??? IMO supras invented turbo lag.

Edit: There is a very nice supra i have seen that is owned by an interior company. HUGE single turbo and its pumpen out 700-800 hp. It runs high 12s. You would think it would do a lil better then that with 700 hp. I watched a highway race with it vs a sick ass Z06. The Supra anihilated it on the free way. It was like the supra had rockets. They started from 70 mph and the z06 jumped a car and a half. Once that turbo was actually able to spool on the supra it ate the z06 for lunch.

BullDog71ss
04-19-2005, 03:27 PM
Speaking of nasty supras...I just watched a vhs that my buddy recorded of HIS buddies supra dyno pull. Damn thing made 850+ rwhp, and this was recorded in 2001! Apparently the owner of the car did most of the work himself, and owns about 15 "Mobile on the run" stores.

Mr. Luos
04-19-2005, 04:54 PM
Even if i am gunna get romped by supras and what not i'll take an 03/04 cobra over any other car any day of the week. Change the pully in that beast and listen to the whine. I def think supras are awsome cars and have HUGE potential.
Agreed. For $1000 they can easily see 450HP to the wheels. As much as I defend the LS1, it costs more to mod because of the N/A aspect. Plus, the Cobra gets forged internals. Big difference there.

Of course, there is always the "Add a S/C to that LS1" debate. While true, the Cobra will handle much more boost on the stock motor.

chexmixa
04-19-2005, 04:59 PM
Agreed. For $1000 they can easily see 450HP to the wheels. As much as I defend the LS1, it costs more to mod because of the N/A aspect. Plus, the Cobra gets forged internals. Big difference there.

Of course, there is always the "Add a S/C to that LS1" debate. While true, the Cobra will handle much more boost on the stock motor.

Yeah, forged internals = win. Those kenne bell (sp?) cobras are insane. If i could have any car on the planet it would be a kenne bell cobra. The sound and the raw hp comen from those monsters is friggen amazing. I got my Vehicular lunatics DVD yesterday and they have a blue kenne bell cobra on the dvd and it is .... i can't even begin to describe it. I don't think i blinked or took one breath durning the whole segment.

I would never S/C an ls1. those things are all about N/A hp. how many motors out there do u know of that can run a 100 shot all day long for 85,000 miles? how many cars out there do you know of with just bolt ons runnen 11s? LS1 is quite the motor but i'll take my 4.6L forged interals kenne bell blown cobra over an ls1 :)

youngvr4
04-19-2005, 05:06 PM
i just read on this black single turbo supra with 925whp at 25psi as a daily driver. thats beyond impressive

chexmixa
04-19-2005, 05:11 PM
i just read on this black single turbo supra with 925whp at 25psi as a daily driver. thats beyond impressive

Yeah its not terribly hard (but it is expensive) to have a daily driven high hp single turbo supra. Those things don't boost tell high rpms. You can easily keep your motor out of boost preserving your engine and making your car streetable. I bet 0-70 that car has nothing, my srt-4 could prolly keep up with it. Past 70 mph i bet that thing screams, like it has friggen rockets.

eps
04-19-2005, 06:17 PM
Who says Supras can’t race below 100mph? Check this Supra out. FULL WEIGHT, STREET car. This guy drives his car to and from the track, while listing to his radio. This run was with 1248rwhp, and the car now has 1520rwhp. STREET CAR!

8.45 in car (http://familysedan.crawlinjunk.com/marko-845.wmv)
8.45 (http://familysedan.crawlinjunk.com/marko-845-incar.wmv)

chexmixa
04-19-2005, 07:07 PM
Who says Supras can’t race below 100mph? Check this Supra out. FULL WEIGHT, STREET car. This guy drives his car to and from the track, while listing to his radio. This run was with 1248rwhp, and the car now has 1520rwhp. STREET CAR!

8.45 in car (http://familysedan.crawlinjunk.com/marko-845.wmv)
8.45 (http://familysedan.crawlinjunk.com/marko-845-incar.wmv)


Obviously that guy is the exception.... did he even shift? it sounded like his car was at a constant rpm and started climbing l8er on. Also is it an auto with one of those auto lock trannies?

Mr. Luos
04-19-2005, 07:17 PM
Yeah, forged internals = win. Those kenne bell (sp?) cobras are insane. If i could have any car on the planet it would be a kenne bell cobra. The sound and the raw hp comen from those monsters is friggen amazing. I got my Vehicular lunatics DVD yesterday and they have a blue kenne bell cobra on the dvd and it is .... i can't even begin to describe it. I don't think i blinked or took one breath durning the whole segment.

I would never S/C an ls1. those things are all about N/A hp. how many motors out there do u know of that can run a 100 shot all day long for 85,000 miles? how many cars out there do you know of with just bolt ons runnen 11s? LS1 is quite the motor but i'll take my 4.6L forged interals kenne bell blown cobra over an ls1 :)
I would SO turbo an LS1. 600+ RWHP on stock internals, including STOCK heads and cam. :evillol:
http://www.4redlinemotorsports.com/ls1turbopage.htm

You like the Cobra's??? Check this out. I wish we could have a dyno day like this.
http://www.modularpowerhouse.com/forums/videos/ModularPowerhouseDynoDayMarch2005.wmv

chexmixa
04-19-2005, 07:26 PM
I would SO turbo an LS1. 600+ RWHP on stock internals, including STOCK heads and cam. :evillol:
http://www.4redlinemotorsports.com/ls1turbopage.htm

You like the Cobra's??? Check this out. I wish we could have a dyno day like this.
http://www.modularpowerhouse.com/forums/videos/ModularPowerhouseDynoDayMarch2005.wmv

before i look at the vids thats that one guy who pops those HUGE wheelies at the track huh. His LS1 is bad ass i have seen him race huybusa's n beat em on the highway.

Edit: OMG that twin turbo stang is crazy!!!!!!! i still want a kenne bell cobra over that though. and no thats not the ls1 i was thinking of. the one i am thinking of is that black ws6 with that huge single turbo and i think he is looken more at 1000hp. i wish i could remeber his name (i keep thinking parish but thats the guy with the 10 sec truck, it will come to me l8er)

Lol those reg mustangs are a joke compaired to those cobras and blow gt's they have lol. First you see and 700whp twin turbo gt and then you see some joke with a 265 whp stang lol.

Mr. Luos
04-19-2005, 07:30 PM
Not sure if that is the same car. It might be though. I haven't seen much from the owner of this particular car.

chexmixa
04-19-2005, 07:33 PM
Not sure if that is the same car. It might be though. I haven't seen much from the owner of this particular car.

LOL no way? lol lemme find some links to this guys Ws6 it is friggen amazing

Edit: ugg i can't find it anywhere. I would suspect you would know who he is. He is a leggend in the ls1tech community. He is the guy with the black ws6. they have a couple drag vids of him popping insane wheelies in his ws6. So high up that you see his exhaust shoot sparks. He drops down for the 1-2 shift and shoots right back up again. LOL it is amazing.

Mr. Luos
04-19-2005, 07:38 PM
That guys WS.6.....The cam in my car now was in that WS.6.
I know him, have met him. I envy that car.
He goes my Mecham on most sites.

EDIT: I think we are talking about the same car. The WS.6 from that Supra video I posted. There isn't any video of Mecham's car doing wheelies, he always ran on street tires until this year. Soon, he will have some INSANE times.

chexmixa
04-19-2005, 07:40 PM
That guys WS.6.....The cam in my car now was in that WS.6.
I know him, have met him. I envy that car.
He goes my Mecham on most sites.

EDIT: I think we are talking about the same car. The WS.6 from that Supra video I posted. There isn't any video of Mecham's car doing wheelies, he always ran on street tires until this year. Soon, he will have some INSANE times.


Lol awsome, that guys car is amazing. He has one hell of a car, it takes alot of guts to drive a car that fast.

Mr. Luos
04-19-2005, 07:43 PM
I am slowly on my way to having that much power. Slowly. Although, I will only be down the TTi kit here soon enough. Of course, I would need all new fuel set-up as well.
Mecham runs a single T80 turbo at 13.5 PSI. Makes over 725 RWHP. He thinks there is plenty more with a better tune. We shall see.

drftk1d
04-19-2005, 08:05 PM
I am slowly on my way to having that much power. Slowly. Although, I will only be down the TTi kit here soon enough. Of course, I would need all new fuel set-up as well.
Mecham runs a single T80 turbo at 13.5 PSI. Makes over 725 RWHP. He thinks there is plenty more with a better tune. We shall see.

those numbers look really low! i would hope he makes more than 725whp.

that mustang dyno video was amazing! i loved the sound of the last blue one.

Mr. Luos
04-19-2005, 08:26 PM
On only 13.5 pounds of boost??

drftk1d
04-19-2005, 08:34 PM
i mean that turbo is capable of way more than 13.5psi. plus he has a big engine, should be more than that.

Muscletang
04-19-2005, 10:11 PM
Who says Supras can’t race below 100mph? Check this Supra out. FULL WEIGHT, STREET car. This guy drives his car to and from the track, while listing to his radio. This run was with 1248rwhp, and the car now has 1520rwhp. STREET CAR!

8.45 in car (http://familysedan.crawlinjunk.com/marko-845.wmv)
8.45 (http://familysedan.crawlinjunk.com/marko-845-incar.wmv)

I'm agreeing with chexmixa that this thing isn't a normal street car. It didn't even sound like he shifted. It was like he had one of those funny car two speed automatic transmissions. Also, even if he does drive it to the track I'm sure it takes a full tank of gas just to get there and he has to go very, very, very easy on it.

Besides, if you open up a 5.0 & Superfords magazine you'll see that 8-10 second 5.0s, 4.6s, and Cobras aren't unheard of either.

I just saw in one issue this guy made the world's first twin turbocharged Mach 1 with 1000 horsepower to the wheels. He took crank, pistons, and transmission out of an '03 Cobra and put it in the Mach 1. The rest of the engine was stock with the turbos added.

As much as I defend the LS1, it costs more to mod because of the N/A aspect. Plus, the Cobra gets forged internals. Big difference there.

Of course, there is always the "Add a S/C to that LS1" debate. While true, the Cobra will handle much more boost on the stock motor.

I don't know if this is true but I heard on Horsepower TV the LS-1 isn't really the engine to go strapping super or turbochargers to or even nitris. They said something about the intake and stuff wasn't designed for or can handle the pressure.

They did say though something about the LS-6's intake and upgrade package is better off for this and you should get it before running boost. Is there any truth to this Luos?

Anyway, I guess I'm a little biased and would pick the '03's supercharged 4.6 over an LS-1 but I wouldn't mind having one either. To me, if you have to pick either you're coming out ahead either way of most of the competition.

Something I wouldn't mind seeing is Chevy taking Ford's path and them making a DOHC supercharged LS-1. Now that'd be one bad@$$ engine.

chexmixa
04-19-2005, 11:07 PM
Hey, i like the cobra cause of the raw power and that intoxicating whine it has. The LS1 is great engine but imo purely for N/A with a fatty shot of nitrous. You wanna go FI get something that allready is.

Mr.Lous i have nothing but respect for you n your car plz don't take this as me ragging on ls1's :)

Mr. Luos
04-19-2005, 11:23 PM
I don't know if this is true but I heard on Horsepower TV the LS-1 isn't really the engine to go strapping super or turbochargers to or even nitris. They said something about the intake and stuff wasn't designed for or can handle the pressure.

They did say though something about the LS-6's intake and upgrade package is better off for this and you should get it before running boost. Is there any truth to this Luos?
The LS1 LOVES nitrous.
The LS6 intake is no difference than the LS1 intake. Flows a ton better is all.
I know plenty of guys here that are DEEP in the 12's racing 5800 feet up with supercharged LS1's. Three off the top of my head.
I would have NO problem running nitrous, a turbo, or a supercharger on my car. It would love it. They take really well to boost/juice. The problem falls in the build of the bottom end. The crank and the block are good for 700HP, but the rods aren't the strongest. 550RWHP is a TON of power. Bolt-ons and a supercharger pumping in 8 PSI will get you that number. All stock motor, heads and cam included.

I prefer the pushrod design to the DOHC. I know it better. GM uses it because they can make the same power with it as Ford does running a smaller displacement blower set-up.

Show me a Cobra that gets 22.5 MPG around town. I just tested my 380RWHP LS1, and that is what it got. Very efficient.
Not taking anything from the Cobra motor here though.

gti1689
04-20-2005, 05:24 AM
this video was in another thread, and it is currently in the videos section. i thought you might like it.
http://www.hsvracing.com/~upload/TightAsAMug/BESVBMYFRIEND.mpeg

CivRacer95
04-20-2005, 06:43 AM
this video was in another thread, and it is currently in the videos section. i thought you might like it.
http://www.hsvracing.com/~upload/TightAsAMug/BESVBMYFRIEND.mpeg

I actually posted that in another thread here in the SR section not to far down. Titled Bwuce Wee in Action. That Supra is definitely the fastest I've seen. The Bruce Lee Poopra. One Supra I'd definitely love to own.

As for that white supra that ran the 8.45, I never heard that thing shift once. I'm curious to know how it is geared myself. Or did someone already post it? Also, the dyno vids of the Stangs were very impressive. Would hate to meet up with any of those in that entire group. They were all just mean altogether. A very good vid indeed. L8...

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