Good SQ SUBS??????

What are some good SQ subs???

I know infinity is good...

what else is there???

in price order?


PS: oh and how's audiobahn's SQ?

this is a joke right?
if you are serious, throw audiobahn out of the window....and give us a budget...
as for subs with good SQ, from experence and hear-say...ones with * are from experence...
RE SE*: Call for direct pricing
RE XXX*: Call for direct pricing
Ascendant Atlas*: 145-160
Ascendant Avalanche: 300-399
Adire Koda: Adire is on back order
Adire Tempest*: Being re-designed into more than a 15" driver
Adire Shiva*: same as tempest
Adire Brahma*: Being re-designed
Adire Tumult: I have no idea
JL w6v2*: Constantly variying, dependso n where you get it from.
JL w7*: same as above
Image Dynamics IDmax*: 400-450 on sounddomain
Image Dynamics ID*: 110-130
Image Dynamics IDQ: 160-260
Stereo Integrety Magnum D2 (they are back up and running right?): not really sure...
RE seXXX (no longer made, buy mikes): $350 for 2 12's

the higher end alpines are also good for sq

this is a joke right?

Image Dynamics IDQ: 160-260




:icon16: :cool:


speaking of IDQ, i have one just for sale! w00t! :p

this is a joke right?
if you are serious, throw audiobahn out of the window....and give us a budget...
as for subs with good SQ, from experence and hear-say...ones with * are from experence...
RE SE*: Call for direct pricing
RE XXX*: Call for direct pricing
Ascendant Atlas*: 145-160
Ascendant Avalanche: 300-399
Adire Koda: Adire is on back order
Adire Tempest*: Being re-designed into more than a 15" driver
Adire Shiva*: same as tempest
Adire Brahma*: Being re-designed
Adire Tumult: I have no idea
JL w6v2*: Constantly variying, dependso n where you get it from.
JL w7*: same as above
Image Dynamics IDmax*: 400-450 on sounddomain
Image Dynamics ID*: 110-130
Image Dynamics IDQ: 160-260
Stereo Integrety Magnum D2 (they are back up and running right?): not really sure...
RE seXXX (no longer made, buy mikes): $350 for 2 12's


You have any experience with Elemental Designs?? I think they're supposed to be pretty good too but I've never actually heard them.

The ones that probably have had experience with them are NG13, SR21, bumpinstang77 and a few other of the well traveled folks. I remember someone else mentioning Elemental Designs, but I can't remember who. Look at the stickied tread "A start of a newbie thread" to see how they rank according to the peoples of this forum.

Ah...yes, Elemental Designs woofers sound very, very good. Very good performace/money value. If you are on a budget it's a great way to go, and if your not, it still is! Their are many way's you can go....


I've played with 4 13kv.2's ported, 2 sealed, 2 ported, and one sealed, and they all amazed me. I like the sound more then other drivers such as alpines type x, diamond tdx, RF T1. You should look into a couple Ov.2's, i've heard nothing but great things, plus, they are extremely sexy, as are the kv.2's.

can u please tell us how much power (rms) you will be running? with that, we can give u better choices

but since you said sq, i'll throw out a bunch of subs that people commonly affiliate with sq

Image Dynamics IDQ/IDMAX
Elemental Design Ov.2 series
Ascendant Audio Atlas/Avalanche
JL Audio W6/W7 series
Resonant Enginnering SE/XXX
Adire Audio Koda/Brahma/Tumult


there are more that jus slipped my mind for the moment

thanks for the replies first of all..
well , i'm looking at cheapest and good quality (for the price) subs. I know people will try to kill me by saying, u can't get good quality if you don't pay the price but...
i'm looking at $250 max for subs. (2 subs)
ANd you'll probably notice by now that i'm not a crazy bass guy. i just want decent bass.
i'm thinking around 200~300 rms / each.
if anyone thinks having a good 1 sub is better, let me know.
thanks.

oh and i guess Image Dynamics ID is ok? since it's the cheapest.. and if the quality isn't that bad, i'm willing to take tat

to be honest, $250 max isn't going to get you much, you can TRY 2 13kv.2s from elemental designs, but they're kinda the low end

if you can increase your budget, you can get two IDQ12's or one IDMAX12 from sounddomain

i agree with you...$250 is too low...

I wish i had more money :(

but i'm gonna have to go with wat's best within that price range...i guess...

for $250 a single Atlas 15 will suffice....
the experence i have had with eDuh wasnt the greatest, good but not great. the sad thing was it was neither excruciatingly loud nor was it top notch SQ with great low end extension... eD is good for the price, but IMO from what i have experenced (not a lot) they arent great...

Is Infinity 1232w any good?
$62 at sounddomain...
1/3 the price of atlas 15...
rms is same...and i don't see much of a difference spec wise...

true RMS isnt the same, trust me. in all reality i think the atlas is very underrated, so is the avalanche. there apre people running 1600w RMS to avalanches and they are taking it like champs, and people runing 600w RMS to atlas's and they are doing just fine. I am not a fan of infinity nor do i think they have a good product, i have only heard a demo car for infinity but still, i dont beleive it is a good product...

the thing is that, i would like to have 2 subs rather than just 1... it looks more balanced.
and i think 2 1230ws are ok for me...

i just need to find an amp for it...

oh, and i see that u make enclosures?

i'll be needing one soon... i think...

i dont make them unless yo uare local, i design them

What amp will go with infinity 1232w?

cheapest possible...with quality of the price.

to be honest, $250 max isn't going to get you much, you can TRY 2 13kv.2s from elemental designs, but they're kinda the low end

if you can increase your budget, you can get two IDQ12's or one IDMAX12 from sounddomain



Uh, 2 13kv.2's will wang in just about any enclosure....I prefer sealed, and i was amazed that the output. Port them, and you will be MORE then satisfied in output and SQ.


Sounddomain? Why pay 4-450$ for an IDMAX when you can get it new elsewhere for around $300 with a warranty.

for 300 i would try out an Ava15...but that is just me...

for 300 i would try out an Ava15...but that is just me...


Yeah, i debated that. I'll probably try it out in the future though.

i would not recommend the reference 1232w. i am a fan of infinity but these are very, very low end. if you want infinitys get the kappa perfect 12 or 12d. its alot more expensive but it will save you from kicking yourself later.

what are some good sites for buying subs and amps??? since i hear sounddomain isn't that good...

can anyone recommend?

I'll sell you my 2 Kappa Perfect 12.1's shoot me a PM if interested.

four infinity references will give you much betta sq than one jL w7 for near or less than the same price. because you need a far less amount of power to create the same output you can get less distortion... howerver most would rather save the space and their quarter mile time and get the JL...

I would take hte four infinity for vanity alone. actually, 4 12s of ANY brand will be far more impressive than one really expensive sub... from a vanity aproach =)

four infinity references will give you much betta sq than one jL w7 for near or less than the same price. because you need a far less amount of power to create the same output you can get less distortion... howerver most would rather save the space and their quarter mile time and get the JL...

I would take hte four infinity for vanity alone. actually, 4 12s of ANY brand will be far more impressive than one really expensive sub... from a vanity aproach =)

Eh...stupid...
:grinno: :nono: :banghead:

NG

Eh...stupid...
:grinno: :nono: :banghead:

NG

stupid, but true...

I'll sell you my 2 Kappa Perfect 12.1's shoot me a PM if interested.


how much are u selling them for???

got boxes with them? amp?

four infinity references will give you much betta sq than one jL w7 for near or less than the same price. because you need a far less amount of power to create the same output you can get less distortion... howerver most would rather save the space and their quarter mile time and get the JL...

I would take hte four infinity for vanity alone. actually, 4 12s of ANY brand will be far more impressive than one really expensive sub... from a vanity aproach =)

Much better SQ? Have you heard both drivers? Let alone, have them both in their "optimal" enclosures, so you can compare equally?

OMFG, Get audiobahn then, are they not "impressive"?

LMAO, dub7=one of the best widely market SQ woofers out there, period. it also has SPL capeability like none other... a dub7 13 will get about as loud as a Brahma MKI 15...intall dependant of course...and mind you it is dealing with a surface area handicap, it makes up with it with somewhere in the mid 30mm's one way Xmax and a very impressive 50mm (i beleive, hear-say) one way Xsus and the DM motor is more than capebale than pushing it to that in a large sealed box with out going very much over reccomended power.... the DM motor is also low disotrtion and decently flat BL, just like XBL^2. only thing is it is used exclusivly by JL.
No Experence to speak of with Infinity, but 4 12's isnt SQ.... 4 12's is "ive got bigger balls than you," that or "i am companesating for somehting" if you are calling that SQ.... why have 4 for the price of a dub7 when a single dub 7 12 will do or something chepaer will do just as well such as an XXX 12? or for slightly less a Magnum D2 12....

stupid, but true...

100% False, I still stand by my statement that you are a complete, utter moron, period.

NG

go easy on him, at least as easy as you go one me....

i have one of those infinity reference (10") and owned a 10w7 before.


the single infinity sounded like utter crap in terms of smoothness and the ability to reproduce accurate low end. If the infinity does not have what the w7 have in the first place, how is adding a crap load of more crap going to help the situation? Sure you get to play louder, but its only to the point where the sound quality is still as if it was with the single driver. You increase volume, but thats about it.

how much are u selling them for???

got boxes with them? amp?

PM for price, my box would be a nightmare to ship, so no eclosure, my amp isn't for sale just yet.

im a fan of infinity but....... 4 refrence series is not worth it. youd be better off buying two 10w7s. it probably wont hit as hard as the 4 infinitys but they sq difference will be a huge factor. two 10w7s and a 1/1000 shoud do you just fine imo.