Anti-ricer article

Maybe you guys can apprciate this better than the off-topic crowd.

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Here are a few articles written by a guy from around where i live.
He's obviously pretty ticked at that forum though, lol.
Does have a point though!!!

Oh well, enjoy:

http://spaces.msn.com/members/myrantanoutstuff/
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That article was dumb and closeminded. Import vs Domestic arguments are all retarded, any car can be made to beat any car, end of story. Who manufactured it doesn't make a difference. This will probably be closed since import vs domestic threads are prohibited, i assume b/c of the amount of ignorance it takes to take a side in the argument, and that's all this thread could possibly turn into.

That article was dumb and closeminded. Import vs Domestic arguments are all retarded, any car can be made to beat any car, end of story. Who manufactured it doesn't make a difference. This will probably be closed since import vs domestic threads are prohibited, i assume b/c of the amount of ignorance it takes to take a side in the argument, and that's all this thread could possibly turn into.

did you even read the article?
it was all about stock form

yeah those people that posted how imports suck are really dumb, complete ignorance :disappoin

Before anyone creates a post possibly condemning this article look at the post that spawned this thread.... then don't post. Parent Thread :thumsdown: (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=394903)

is it worth pointing out that the nissan 350z was designed in an american design studio
by an indian guy
born in the uk
who studied in both the uk and the us.

so er.... the nissan is a global car?

anyway.
let me get this right.
you are proud that US cars can't command the same prices that other cars can?
so american cars are cheap.
wall mart is cheap.
what does that say?

is it worth pointing out that the nissan 350z was designed in an american design studio
by an indian guy
born in the uk
who studied in both the uk and the us.

so er.... the nissan is a global car?

anyway.
let me get this right.
you are proud that US cars can't command the same prices that other cars can?
so american cars are cheap.
wall mart is cheap.
what does that say?

lol exactly.

Domestic vs Import isn't a battle of performance at all...if it was that then each would have 9 second cars stock. Its a battle of sales. The performance battle is between the consumer to see who mods best. :2cents:

I hope you people will soon realize that anti-ricer threads are in no way related to import vs domestic threads. People who hate ricers, like me, just post about how stupid ricers are. We never mention anything about domestic vehicles. Ricers suck, period. If you're gonna trick out a car, do it right.

that's the point, the anti-ricer article in question was about imports equating to ricers and how american domestic cars are better.

Maybe you guys can apprciate this better than the off-topic crowd.

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Here are a few articles written by a guy from around where i live.
He's obviously pretty ticked at that forum though, lol.
Does have a point though!!!

Oh well, enjoy:

http://spaces.msn.com/members/myrantanoutstuff/
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My cat could make a better point than him and I'm 75% sure my cat is retarded. He clearly has no clue that there are 80 gazillion ways of making a car go fast, not just "Putting a V8 in it bro"

My cat could make a better point than him and I'm 75% sure my cat is retarded.

:rofl:

Yeah we all hate ricers, but like drunken said it was about domestic superiority over all.

Domestic cars nowadays are crap. The only good domestics are the classic muscle cars of the '60s and '70s. Today, domestics are made of plastic, get really shitty gas mileage, ridiculously overpriced, and perform no better in a crash test than a paper plane. Imports are safer, cheaper, and get way better gas mileage. A stock Civic is an all-around good car. A riced-out Civic is just a piece of shit.

It is all what people think they are just cars and some you hate and some you like. Sorta like me I like the 60s 70s vette but I don't like the 80s through know. It's all up to the people end of story. You can like whatever you like and we can't stop you. To me a car is a car and that will never change(except Hybids they suck hate them badly.) They are all cars and cars are to be driven and not compared until the carshow.

People who hate ricers, like me, just post about how stupid ricers are. Ricers suck, period.

Hold up. Is this person a living oxymoron? You hate ricers but you just recently painted your hood black and you bought these stupid looking hubcaps to swap out with your old ones. I don' get it.

Mkay

FYI, I have not put those ugly-ass hubcaps on in a long time and probably won't again. As for the hood, I was bored. I'm gonna repaint the whole car black eventually, so STFU. And you will pay for that tailight you busted. I don't care if you refuse, cuz your gonna pay for what you did to my car.

civics...hondas in general...end of discussion...

The guy making that blog has a very valid point about the general levels of ignorance in teh ricer crowd. unfortunately, he (like so many anti-ricers) tends to fight that ignorance with his own brand of anti-import ignorance. And unfortuantly the domestic muscle crod is just as full of that ignorance as teh ricers they hate are. Sad, really.

He insults Hondas in general and the CRX in particvular without understanding about the road race ability the CRX Si was designed to have. He completely ingores Honda's decades of motorsports victories, not only in the motorcycle arena, but in sport car racing since their first F1 car in '63. He doesn't realize that Honda's first production car was, in fact, a traditional front engine RWD sports car, the S500/S600/S800 series. AND, he mistakenly assumes (as do so many people) that sports cars are about accelleration and top speed. They never have been.

He also assumes raw numbers tell everything (and on a race track, they often do), but forgets about things like steering and suspension feel and attention to detail. Thus teh handbuilt, razor sharp NSX is overpriced becaeu the cheaper Corvette can run with it. Well, I can build a $10k Pinto to run with a Corvette. Does that make a Corvette an overpriced POS, too? If you only want numbers for your money, build from a cheap car, don't buy a new car of ANY sort.

Lightweight chassis are always the best to build performance cars from, whether you are going to be drag racing or road racing. Class rules will dictate how light your car can be, but it's better to start with a light car and add ballast where you need it than start with a heavy car and try to make it lighter.

Rice is attitude more than anything, so don't go insulting the basic cars they are built from as though there's some truth in it. And vice versa, Domestic muscle is so much better these days than it ever has been, with excellent build quality for the price, excellent power for the price, and handling ability to go with the power.

What it comes down to is this: buy and build what you like, and don't insult others for buying and building something different from that. If we all had the same stuff, it'd be boring. :grinyes:

is it worth pointing out that the nissan 350z was designed in an american design studio
by an indian guy
born in the uk
who studied in both the uk and the us.

so er.... the nissan is a global car?

.........and as ugly as they come.

The guy making that blog has a very valid point about the general levels of ignorance in teh ricer crowd. unfortunately, he (like so many anti-ricers) tends to fight that ignorance with his own brand of anti-import ignorance. And unfortuantly the domestic muscle crod is just as full of that ignorance as teh ricers they hate are. Sad, really.

He insults Hondas in general and the CRX in particvular without understanding about the road race ability the CRX Si was designed to have. He completely ingores Honda's decades of motorsports victories, not only in the motorcycle arena, but in sport car racing since their first F1 car in '63. He doesn't realize that Honda's first production car was, in fact, a traditional front engine RWD sports car, the S500/S600/S800 series. AND, he mistakenly assumes (as do so many people) that sports cars are about accelleration and top speed. They never have been.

He also assumes raw numbers tell everything (and on a race track, they often do), but forgets about things like steering and suspension feel and attention to detail. Thus teh handbuilt, razor sharp NSX is overpriced becaeu the cheaper Corvette can run with it. Well, I can build a $10k Pinto to run with a Corvette. Does that make a Corvette an overpriced POS, too? If you only want numbers for your money, build from a cheap car, don't buy a new car of ANY sort.

Lightweight chassis are always the best to build performance cars from, whether you are going to be drag racing or road racing. Class rules will dictate how light your car can be, but it's better to start with a light car and add ballast where you need it than start with a heavy car and try to make it lighter.

Rice is attitude more than anything, so don't go insulting the basic cars they are built from as though there's some truth in it. And vice versa, Domestic muscle is so much better these days than it ever has been, with excellent build quality for the price, excellent power for the price, and handling ability to go with the power.

What it comes down to is this: buy and build what you like, and don't insult others for buying and building something different from that. If we all had the same stuff, it'd be boring. :grinyes:

.....Amen

but what about the exotic cars like BMWs Porcshes and audis?

Yeah, american muscle can put out lots of power and kick some ass on the drag strip but lets see one run with a sport compact in an auto cross race. I bet a Civic with suspension and light engine mods could whoop the shit out of a big tubby ass camaro or what have you. Or drifting. Lets see any "American Muscle" car drift. Sure V8s can make lots of power, but it takes lots more power to get the much more of a car going but they need it to get their massive frame to move. That guy thinks displacement is the only thing that matters. Theres a Eclipse GST (2.0L FWD turbo 210 hp) in my town, almost completely stock, and it has taken down or embarrassed too many V-8s to list. Does this make V-8's bad? Hell no! Theres nothing wrong with "American Muscle" but some of the ignorant, stuck in the past owners need to shut their mouths about shit they only know one side of. Just because its imported doesnt mean its a ricer. Ricers put on body kits, vinyls, intakes, and a can and think they are fast. There are lots more people who work on modern day cars and builds some power off of them without making it look stupid in the process. Are imports better than V8's? No. Are V8's better than imports. Hell no. Its a matter of choice, but dont make yourself look like an ass like that guy did when he came to his close minded conclusion.

Another retarded Import vs Domestic Arguement, i think the import guys should show respect to The muscle car guys and vice versa, its all about the love of cars, not over your ego's. So please for 5 seconds realize 80% of you are defending shit that you dont own, your just doing it to be cool. So shut up and realize why we all do this, for the love of the car....get over yourselves geeze

Another retarded Import vs Domestic Arguement, i think the import guys should show respect to The muscle car guys and vice versa, its all about the love of cars, not over your ego's. So please for 5 seconds realize 80% of you are defending shit that you dont own, your just doing it to be cool. So shut up and realize why we all do this, for the love of the car....get over yourselves geeze


Another amen. As for the answer above I think drifting is one thing both a good import and a good muscle car can be made to do with a good RWD chassis. There are drifting teams now with GTOs, Vipers, and Mustangs. Though the worst example I've seen was at an amateur contest when someone tried it with a BMW, it would've been OK but the car had traction control and he just couldn't do it. Dissengaged would've been OK because I think the Euros could easily join the drift game too.