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Disaster time - help on window painting please?


Lurchio
04-13-2005, 07:16 AM
Ok - major disaster time last night!
Got a lovely Revell M3 on the way, body is lovely, interior is lovely, masked the galss and sprayed last night (Tamiya TS-29) and it must have bled through in 5 or 6 palces - it's awful - Basically I laid on far too heavy a coat but hey you live and learn!

Can I strip the paint from clear glass without damaging the "clearness" of the plastic or should I look to locally poish out the bleeds?

I'm panicing majorly and would really appreciate some help guys!

Thanks

Verminator
04-13-2005, 08:00 AM
I have read on hear that you can strip with brake fluid with no detrimental results, never done it myself so I suggest a search of the forum to see if any other answers previously.

Lurchio
04-13-2005, 08:13 AM
Apologies - was panicing!

Have had a good seaqrch of the forum now and will be buying a container of brake fluid on my way home tonight - that seems to be the solution!

mickbench
04-13-2005, 08:57 AM
Best to use an airbrush to spray with masking tape, as you can lay down a light mist to seal the tape.

I had major problems getting this right, but once I got it, it works all the time now. The TS cans can be a bit bruttle with the amount of paint it throws out, that is why I use a airbrush.

Also - doesn't stripping clear with brake fluid fog the clear parts, and you then have to polish them back up again? Just thought I would ask as I've never stripped clear parts before.

Also I use acrylics, as if I mess this up with clear I can sometimes just scrape the black off, and wash with water and try again..!!

Veyron
04-13-2005, 09:19 AM
Best to use only acrylics for window trim.

Vric
04-13-2005, 09:41 AM
I wouldn't try brake fluid.

Here is an horror story of this week:
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=2990985&postcount=28

I agree with Veyron, Acrylic is beter for clear part (easy to remove)

Lurchio
04-13-2005, 10:46 AM
Vric, I hear what you are saying but it doesn't help me much now does it! I'm in this position and brake fluid it will be - I can always polish the glass up afterwards!
At the end of the day I'm not gonna bin the model for one msitake!
I'll go to acrylics for future (Personally I didn't know TS spray wasn't acrylic!) but I only have propellant cans for my airbrush and they are a nightmare to be honest!

Well you'll find out how I get on in the morning!

mickbench
04-13-2005, 10:55 AM
I only have canned air at the moment as well. I did get a mini compressor but I just can't get enough paint out of the gun to make it worthwhile using.. PSI is too low.

I know what you mean about cans being a nightmare. I'm just about to buy a compressor, as buying canned air is a waste of money IMO.

Also, you can polish clear parts, I read how to do it somewhere. Do a search but it's not going to be easy, good luck I hope it all works out for you.

alakai
04-13-2005, 11:11 AM
Best to use only acrylics for window trim.

And if you do make a mistake, a little bit of isopropyl alcohol on a cotton swab will remove the paint with no effect to the plastic.

Vric
04-13-2005, 12:26 PM
Vric, I hear what you are saying but it doesn't help me much now does it!

I just gived my opinion and a bad result that happened to a member here this week to warn you. Get it or not.... :eek7:

As for polishing, look here:
http://www.briansmodelcars.com/tutorials/tutorial.asp?TutorialID=14&CurPage=1

I hope it does help you this time..

Lurchio
04-13-2005, 01:25 PM
I just gived my opinion and a bad result that happened to a member here this week to warn you. Get it or not.... :eek7:



Apologies Vric, didn't mean to offend, just don't want to scrap this kit after all the work I've put in!
Thanks for the link!

Thought I'd share the extent of the balls up:
http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/503/288259DSC00126-med.JPG
http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/503/288259DSC00127-med.JPG

I'm gonna start now and see what I can do using the various technigues offerred!

I'll be back with an update - good or bad!!!

Sticky Fingers
04-13-2005, 02:59 PM
Y'know, it's just a thought but have you considered getting a replacement from Tamiya? Might even be cheaper than the brake fluid!

D_LaMz
04-13-2005, 04:16 PM
Hey that happened to me and I stuck it in brake fluis and it got fogged up, so now I might have to polish it.

mickbench
04-13-2005, 05:26 PM
I had something along the same happen to me, the tape leaked. It was before I got the hang of how to lay a mist of paint down to seal the edges..

Wasn't as bad, but because I had used arcylic I was able to remove the unwanted paint using a (VERY small) amount of thiiners on a q-tip, and then used water and a towel to remove the unwanted paint. Toothpicks also came in handy to clean it up. Was actaully the 360 in my sig that it happened with, on one of the side windows..

I was lucky as the clear didn't fog or crack. I've only used acrylic ever since, with an airbrush and Tamiya tape.

935k3
04-13-2005, 09:37 PM
91% Alcohol(available at drug stores and grocery stores) will remove the paint with no effect on the plastic. Try some on a Q-Tip on the affected areas. If that won't work fast enough soak the whole window in it to strip. It may take an hour or so but it will work and not hurt the plastic.

Lurchio
04-14-2005, 08:54 AM
Well as an update I have actually managed to get away with polishing out the overspray!
i had to carefully finish some areas with my scalpel but overall I'm satisfied - it's not the perfect job I was hoping for but should be ok when assembled - I'll try and post a pic later to show!

I really struggle with masking windows when there are no window masks to use - I'll have to have a good dearch in the FAQ as there must be an easier way!!!

ToMiNAToR333
04-14-2005, 09:40 AM
i feel ur pain mate....
heres a site that has a tutorial on making window maks....might help u in the future...it also has heaps of other tuts aswell, itts an awesome site alltogether!!!

ps... post some pics when ur done!!!!

Lurchio
04-14-2005, 01:30 PM
OK couple of pics to show how I got on!
Firstly there are still some overspray marks left but these are not seen once assembled with the body!

Polish worked well! Never tried brake fluid in the end!
Not perfect but adequate! Live and learn!

Speaking of which I can't find any tutorial on window masks despite searching!
http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/503/288259DSC00128-med.JPG
http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/503/288259DSC00129-med.JPG

SchuberT
04-14-2005, 01:38 PM
Glad your problem is taken care of :)

Our own 360spider has a tutorial on his site for making window masks.... http://italianhorses.net/Tutorials/Window%20Masks/masks.htm

For future reference, you can check out Steve's (Hiroboy) window mask topic: http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=123478

ToMiNAToR333
04-14-2005, 04:42 PM
sorry, i didnt realsie that i didnt post the site!!!
SchuberT gave u the site i was talking bout, check it out its awesome!!!

99civichic
04-14-2005, 05:42 PM
This is why I do all my window trim with a brush and acrylics, no tape! I'm too scared it'll bleed through like that.

MPWR
04-14-2005, 06:52 PM
Isopropyl alcohol will strip TS, and is less likely to haze the plastic in the process. Get it at the grocery store, and soak the part in a covered container.

aN4rK1
04-14-2005, 08:16 PM
Lurchio:It might be too late cuz the paint is already dry but, try oven cleaner, it does wonders. It SHOULD take off the paint without any effect to the clearness. I tried this once, but i cant remember weather it was enamel paint or acrylic :S Hope this helps, good luck friend!

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