How Bad Is It Staying In 1st In An A/T..?
solaris=amazing
04-11-2005, 04:36 PM
Hey guys, havent posted in a while... And then i do...a dumb post..sorry..
Anyway, being that the single most downfall to a tbird is the a/t, how bad is it to shift it like a manual..? I'm not talking daily driving, everyday...just sometimes. Today, i was on a narrow street...under an overpass. I took overdrive off, and put my shifter in 1st, anyway, you can get up to like 5K and it sounds sweet. Thats when you really hear the sweet noise of the engine, being that i also have my air silencer removed, and my mufflers chopped off. The air intake sounds like a supercharger at like 3500-4500rpms.
I got so many people looking at me, lol...either they where saying that sounds hot....or they where like, ah.... My buddy said that basically if you stay in a gear longer, 1st, you burn gas VERY FAST, and the oil will get eaten up very quickly also. He told me that going from a 3rd to 2nd, 1st etc is MUCH worse then manually shifting from D1 (1st) D2 (2nd) D (3rd)....that with the overdrive off also btw. As far as breakdown, thats the biggest concern, especially in the tranny...he said the fluid will get hot in no time, and thats why you don't want to shift an a/t like a makeshift manual trans.
Besides regular high rpm engine wear, and fluid breakdown, what can really happen to the tranny..? Will it slip after a while.? In that case also, does a manual's engine/fluid get burnt up faster then a car with a a/t..?
Anyway, being that the single most downfall to a tbird is the a/t, how bad is it to shift it like a manual..? I'm not talking daily driving, everyday...just sometimes. Today, i was on a narrow street...under an overpass. I took overdrive off, and put my shifter in 1st, anyway, you can get up to like 5K and it sounds sweet. Thats when you really hear the sweet noise of the engine, being that i also have my air silencer removed, and my mufflers chopped off. The air intake sounds like a supercharger at like 3500-4500rpms.
I got so many people looking at me, lol...either they where saying that sounds hot....or they where like, ah.... My buddy said that basically if you stay in a gear longer, 1st, you burn gas VERY FAST, and the oil will get eaten up very quickly also. He told me that going from a 3rd to 2nd, 1st etc is MUCH worse then manually shifting from D1 (1st) D2 (2nd) D (3rd)....that with the overdrive off also btw. As far as breakdown, thats the biggest concern, especially in the tranny...he said the fluid will get hot in no time, and thats why you don't want to shift an a/t like a makeshift manual trans.
Besides regular high rpm engine wear, and fluid breakdown, what can really happen to the tranny..? Will it slip after a while.? In that case also, does a manual's engine/fluid get burnt up faster then a car with a a/t..?
JR Tigerstar
04-11-2005, 06:53 PM
Anyway, being that the single most downfall to a tbird is the a/t, how bad is it to shift it like a manual..?
It would just put more stress/wear on the drivetrain.
Besides regular high rpm engine wear, and fluid breakdown, what can really happen to the tranny..? Will it slip after a while.?
Well, you could ballon the torque converter and "blow" the transmission that way.
Yes, after a while the transmission will start to slip. Remember you are putting more stress/wear on all drivetrain components including the transmission's clutch plates, output seals, U-joints, differential gears, ect.
In that case also, does a manual's engine/fluid get burnt up faster then a car with a a/t..?
No.
Ford Overdrive Transmissions 101 (http://www.tccoa.com/articles/tranny/transmission/index.shtml)
Check page 6 - Transmisission Do's, Don't's, & FAQ's continued .
It would just put more stress/wear on the drivetrain.
Besides regular high rpm engine wear, and fluid breakdown, what can really happen to the tranny..? Will it slip after a while.?
Well, you could ballon the torque converter and "blow" the transmission that way.
Yes, after a while the transmission will start to slip. Remember you are putting more stress/wear on all drivetrain components including the transmission's clutch plates, output seals, U-joints, differential gears, ect.
In that case also, does a manual's engine/fluid get burnt up faster then a car with a a/t..?
No.
Ford Overdrive Transmissions 101 (http://www.tccoa.com/articles/tranny/transmission/index.shtml)
Check page 6 - Transmisission Do's, Don't's, & FAQ's continued .
thunderbird muscle
04-11-2005, 07:01 PM
Of course its adding extra stess on all your drivetrain componets, It also depends on how long you hold in 1st as to how bad it is.
wheels63
04-12-2005, 10:42 AM
Well I know one thing I would never let anyone drive my Bird like that.Hell I will not let my wife drive Bird either.
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solaris=amazing
04-12-2005, 02:29 PM
Yeah i'm not gonna be going that anymore. It is infectious though, seeing how fast your car is when it's in its powerband...my 95 4.6 peaks at 3200....if you in 1st and punch it at like 2800....wow..
It aint worth repairs upon repairs though, hell my car has 129K on her, and the tranny and engine are in great shape....so i want to prolong that as long as possible.
One thing that does suck.....my power steering pump is dead, so turning my wheel at 5mph and under is hell. Tried a fluid flush, nothing.
It aint worth repairs upon repairs though, hell my car has 129K on her, and the tranny and engine are in great shape....so i want to prolong that as long as possible.
One thing that does suck.....my power steering pump is dead, so turning my wheel at 5mph and under is hell. Tried a fluid flush, nothing.
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