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Ricer with an EVO


Pistolpete
04-11-2005, 06:50 AM
i have explaind previously that Perth competes with the best when it comes to ricer/population ratios. Most come in the form of the lancer.

Lancers with evo body kits are appearing regularly on the streets of my little town, which is often amusing as that 1.5 litre doesnt leave much for the imagination.

heres how it went

Diving home down a 3 lane hwy, last night with my lady.
Im in one of the z's its an 83 na.
At the next lights i see a lancer with an evo kit and some 'mad' neons, so i pull up alongside him and the dude starts reving, iv got the windows up and the music cranking so i didnt hear him at all, my gf points out that he wants to go so i rev back.
Ok another hack in a try hard evo going to get his ass handed to him by the z, i rev back and hold it at 2.5K.
light goes green and much to my surprise he was ahead by about a car before i max 2nd!
bloody hell!
Finally a real evo has gotten revenge for all those riced out lancers left with tyre marks on em.

I shut down at 150, him a far bit ahead.
oh my! im never going to hear the end of it from the girl friend, as iv been hammering it into her for the past year or so that lancers are for girls and my granny could run faster than 'em.

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

evil6remlin
04-11-2005, 08:14 AM
lol. reminds me of the story where the vr4 got revenge after some car just beat a SL(I forget who posted it). I bet next time you'll be looking for a FMIC next time a supposed evo rolls up on you.

Musashi3000GT
04-11-2005, 10:01 AM
the lancer comes with a 2.0 here, they make 120 and 162 hp depending on the model.

also why do you call him rice? I think that whole ricer stereotype is outta hand. neons are nice and unless he had blue neons under the car, red neon around his license plate, green neons in his interior and pink neons glowing from his front bumper I would not call it rice.
you guys really have a low tollerence for customization! or is it that a world filled of completely cosmetically stock cars is what pleases you?

Igovert was the one who raced the Mustang GT in retaliation for the fallen SL.
Igovert is a national hero within the 3000GT/GTO community.

Pistolpete
04-11-2005, 10:56 AM
its not that he was rice its just that i expected a riced out lancer, i have raced them and seen them plenty of times b4. i just came up to the light saw the lancer and the glow forn below and simply wrote him off as another ricer lancer try hard.

It was dark i had music cranked and the widows shut and lancers dont interest me too much, i guess i didnt take too much notice.

Some of the evo kits look farking good hey they are bascially real evos without the good stuff, the chance of getting a real one where slim as i found out the hard way.

Musashi3000GT
04-11-2005, 01:10 PM
I see now, sorry I thought you where just stereotyping him.

so how fast is the Z? sounds like you kept up well enough not to get slaughtered.

I see alot of fake evos too man. there is one in my job district. the guy put the complete evo kit on it, evo rims, evo wing, he even bought a fake intercooler and mounted it. He was going around terrifying the younger guys in the area asking them to race knowing they would back down. the only reason I noticed it had to be a fake was cause of the brake callipers, dead givaway.

Igovert500
04-11-2005, 01:16 PM
Igovert is a national hero within the 3000GT/GTO community.


Oh god...

Anyway, I have yet to see an actual evo driving in person. I see the lancers, and I've seen the evos at the dealership, but have yet to see any on the road. Tough loss, but it happens, plus you can always take it out on some more lancers.

TatII
04-11-2005, 01:32 PM
with a good trained eye the no body kit can ever fake the evo's flared fenders, and wider trunk tail lights. let me just post some side by side pics and you'll see what i mean.


here is a pic of a lancer ralliart, the closest looking lancer to an evo you can get. look at the rear fenders, its smooth and have no blistering fender, the tail lights are also different to the point where the stock EVO's tailights are wider, and cannot be put into them unless they have a good custom body job

http://imagesmitsubishi1.free.fr/images/japon/mitsu/2004_lancer_ralliart_25.jpg

here is the rear EVO.

http://oi.webstar.hu/yappa/rally/2004/hirek_vb/0204_lancer_mr_2.jpg

you see how the whole rear fender blisters out by over an inch from the rear lights to the middle of hte rear door? this is very very obvious esp from lookin in the back or the front, the car looks muscular, the regular lancers looks slim and smooth. you also notice how the rear taillights are actually 3 full round circles further showing the car is wider, then the 2 semi circle tailights of a the standard lancer.

here is the front view of a oridinaly lancer.

http://registry.evolutionm.net/garage/30432/images/mvc-010s-l.jpg

notice how slim the sides look?

now heres the front of a real EVO.

http://www.bouloubasis.gr/images/evo/wall_03_800.jpg

notice how much the front fenders buldge out?

now heres the whole pic of hte car with both bulding fenders

this

http://www.edmunds.com/media/2003/tokyo/mitsu.evovii_mr/mitsu.lancer.evo_MR.f34.500.jpg

compared to this

http://www.body-kit.com/gal021.jpg

you can't fake those. you can easily tell by lookin at the right areas. the lancer looks slender and weak, while the real deal EVO looks like its goin to eat you with its buldging shoulders.

CassiesMan
04-11-2005, 01:37 PM
I think neons and body kits doen right can look very nice. I still hold that rice is an attitude, disregardless of car. I've known people with "riced out cars" that are real down to earth, cool guys, and guys with bad ass cars who are totall dicks and act like the stereotypical ricer. Nice death to a nice car.

Pistolpete
04-12-2005, 04:06 AM
hey Tatt2 nice post man, iv never really looked into the whole evo scene, and there are a few dead givaways that i hadnt really botherd to look into.

lets just say that ill pay more attention to the kitted lancers from now on

lol and igovert's right on! the next granny in a normal lancer i come accross is goin down!!!

drftk1d
04-12-2005, 11:01 AM
the lancer comes with a 2.0 here, they make 120 and 162 hp depending on the model.
.

the ralliart lancer has a 2.4 engine (the 4g64), which is the 160hp one.

Musashi3000GT
04-12-2005, 12:49 PM
Bah, whatever, its still a crappy excuse of a car!

AWP9521
04-12-2005, 01:34 PM
From looking at the pics there is a lot of night and day differences between the Lancer and the Evo, headlights, taillights, grille openings, body bulges, ect. If I were to ever spring for an Evo the one thing it wouldn't have is that wing on the back (they can be ordered without), from what I read about them the wing makes it real hard to identify any vehicles behind you using the mirror, I would want to be able to see if there is a cop behind me before going off and doing something you shouldn't be doing on public roads. If it was my car it would be history, I wouldn't be going that fast for that long on public roads with it anyhow to worry about downforce.

Wackadoo
04-12-2005, 03:17 PM
Bah, whatever, its still a crappy excuse of a car!

Cmon don't hate on the RA. Its actually the 4g69 and its 162hp/162tq.
Stock vs stock its just as fast as the 3000gt SL..

astig
04-13-2005, 08:50 AM
I have an EVO MR and I do not hate RA Lancers. I just pity them as those cars could cost 25K tops with all the fancy options while you might be able to get a 25K '03 EVO or less. Regular lancers needs a lot of face lift to exactly look like an EVO. And a lot of money to perform like it. I have seen lancers with front and rear EVO body kits. All they do is stare at my car and wont even dare to race. Other Evos on the road either give me a thumbs up or nod their head.
I haven't seen an RA perform but please keep it on its class.

mason_RsX
04-13-2005, 09:12 AM
I have an EVO MR

Really? Can you prove that? not hatin or nething, just gotta make sure

and here in Canada EVO's dont pass the 5km front bumper test so there are basically none. In Toronto I've been told that there are 2 classified as show cars, so its a 99.99% chance its a Ralliart or a reglar Lancer, so theres no suprises...most ppl here driving Lancers are just old ppl, or families, no racer or racer tryhards

astig
04-13-2005, 11:41 AM
Here it is. I am a noob at this site so if anyone can give me tips on posting. Hope the pic stays.
Note MR has the Vortex Generators, Graphite Grey color, BBS Ash colored Rims (only avail on MR8) and the MR sticker.

http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/501/313336MYEVOMR.jpg

I do not live in Canada.
Kill list is short.. Just got it Dec 2004. Others not worth mentioning such as one very riced out civic DX who took 7 seconds to get 2 car lengths ahead of me while I cruise the Highway.

KILL list:
a.) Silver 03 Corvette, I just got about 1 foot in front. Not Z06 or Z51.
b.) Black 03 Corvette, not a kill but he could not leave me on a slightly heavy traffic,two lane highway doing an average of 90 to 130mph for about 7-9 miles. I admit he could kill be at 150mph.
"MR's have superb handling. I was going 130MP which still feels like 60mph."
c.) Don't want to add this but what the hell. Beat a Grand AM GT, 5 car lengths in one gear while I was at cruising' about 50mph. Don't know my speed after 5 car lengths but I shifted and slowed down.

Note: EVO 9 MR is coming out in a few months 286HP (United States)
Difference form EVO 8MR: Vortex generators will have the same color as the Car. Front and rear bumps changed. Mivec head still 4G63 engine.
- I think much cheaper than the MR8 because of the Bilstein shocks not included, (Not quite sure yet).

Wackadoo
04-13-2005, 01:12 PM
I have an EVO MR and I do not hate RA Lancers. I just pity them as those cars could cost 25K tops with all the fancy options while you might be able to get a 25K '03 EVO or less. Regular lancers needs a lot of face lift to exactly look like an EVO. And a lot of money to perform like it. I have seen lancers with front and rear EVO body kits. All they do is stare at my car and wont even dare to race. Other Evos on the road either give me a thumbs up or nod their head.
I haven't seen an RA perform but please keep it on its class.

Actually I paid 17k for RA. I wanted the evo but it was just out of my price range and insurance is a killer. Most used ones were abused and traded back in too. I wasn't comparing the Ra to and evo as there is no comparison unless the RA is boosted. I never took it out of its "class" as you put it. It was just a good comparison to the SL.

lickem
04-13-2005, 08:53 PM
KILL list:
a.) Silver 03 Corvette, I just got about 1 foot in front. Not Z06 or Z51.

Got a foot until what speed/distance?0-60, 0-100?


b.) Black 03 Corvette, not a kill but he could not leave me on a slightly heavy traffic,two lane highway doing an average of 90 to 130mph for about 7-9 miles. I admit he could kill be at 150mph.
"MR's have superb handling. I was going 130MP which still feels like 60mph."


Sounds dangerous 130mph in heavy traffic.

BLU CIVIC
04-13-2005, 10:05 PM
:lol: would have loved to see a pic of that priceless expression on ur face

Thourun
04-13-2005, 11:07 PM
Cmon don't hate on the RA. Its actually the 4g69 and its 162hp/162tq.
Stock vs stock its just as fast as the 3000gt SL..
Our best acceleration guesstimates are 0 to 60 in 7.5 seconds and the quarter-mile in 15.7, which would squeeze it right between the Focus and Protegé.
Hrmm, not quite.

KrNxRaCer00
04-13-2005, 11:22 PM
damn...must be lucky in WA, when i was home i saw evo's everywhere. haha, i felt slow/out-dated in my ITR.

nice loss btw...

Thourun
04-13-2005, 11:33 PM
I see a few STIs and a lot of fastish domestics (Cobra, 8cyl Camaro, Vette), never seen an evo around where I live though.

2of9
04-13-2005, 11:42 PM
wait a sec....150?? 150 mph is pretty damn fast isnt it?? or was it 150 kph??

Wackadoo
04-14-2005, 12:34 AM
Hrmm, not quite.

Not trying to argue but.... Motortrend says 0-60 6.9 seconds. What is the 0-60 on an SL then? I have an RA and I know its not the fastest car in the world but it is about dead even with the SL. I didn't say it would beat a VR4 but cmon why is that so hard to believe?

Thourun
04-14-2005, 01:11 AM
Ok, well I didn't look at motortrend, having owned an SL maybe I'm biased, theres one person on AF who ran like 14.7 with only intake I think, it just dosent seem to be as fast a car in my experience.

Musashi3000GT
04-14-2005, 07:55 AM
Wackadoo, your new here so I'll be nice. Thourun had an SL before he got the VR-4 and I still have my base model, no way either one of us will agree that the RA lancer is as fast as a 3000GT. for one your probably thinking the 3000GT is an overweight car like everyone always does. the VR-4 is the heavy one. my car is 3197 lbs and 222 hp @ 6000rpms 218 torque @ 4800rpms. My car puts down more power to the wheels then yours does at the cranck so how in the hell is it gonna run side by side? the guys here know I have been dying to get rid of my car but seriously if my car where that slow I would of tossed it in the lake along time ago.
Not to mention I've ran so many RAs already and decimated them..........and by this forums standards my 3000GT is one of the slowest here. I ran a 15.6 @ 91mph a few months ago, that is freaking slow so your RA must be running high 16s from what I've seen on the street and strip so far. I'm not putting down the Lancer dude, I love Mitshubishi but side by side? no way.

Wackadoo
04-14-2005, 09:21 AM
Ha thanks for being easy on me for being the new guy. I am not trying make any enemies here either. I love mitsubishis too and especially the 3000gt. Maybe i got offended when someone said the RA was a sorry excuse of a car... oh well. I have raced 2 SL's since I got my RA. One of them beat me by half a car and the other one was dead even and I was bone stock. Don't know how you decimated them but maybe you were the better driver there. Check the wheel horsepower of both cars. The power to weight ratio is very close. If you are faster by .2 to.3 seconds 0-60, I think that is a close race and can be make up by the driver IMO.

Pistolpete
04-14-2005, 10:13 AM
yeh dude it was 150kph......mph would b a little fast i rekens.
i see more wrx's than you could poke a stick at, through sti's are less comon here.
The one thing we DONT see is 3000gt's SL or VR-4, iv seen maybe 2 or 3 in the flesh in my life,
but then today i saw maybe at least 7 different skylines so it all evens out in the end i guess. :)

Musashi3000GT
04-14-2005, 11:48 AM
Look bro, I dont want to make any enemies either specially with other mitsu drivers but you got a hell of a bad rep already from all the other dudes driving around in RAs.
I was stupid to say the RA is a sorry excuse, my car is preaty pathetic compared to the rest of the guys here so I'm being a hypocrite seeing as how my car is a sorry excuse for a VR-4. I guess I am in no possition to be putting anyone else down.
The problem I see with the RA are that there are too many punk ass kids out there running these cars thinking they are mini Evos and acting like stupid noobs. what that does it ruin it for guys like you who know thier shit well.
I guess your right, our cars might run close, we wont know unless we take them to the track.
and yeah maybe the cars I ran where bigginers or maybe they where auto. a 6.9 0-60 is probbably what I run too so I am sorry for being a dick.

Wackadoo
04-14-2005, 01:47 PM
No hard feelings at all man. I think we all get defensive about our cars sometimes. I understand why you can't stand the evo wanabeez and they annoy the sheeet out of me. Don't fake it. Know your spot in the food chain. I know where mine is.

astig
04-14-2005, 04:54 PM
lickem
Let me clarify, it ain't bull.....
a.) Silver 03 Corvette, I just got about 1 foot in front. Not Z06 or Z51.
b.) Black 03 Corvette, not a kill but he could not leave me on a slightly heavy traffic,two lane highway doing an average of 90 to 130mph for about 7-9 miles. I admit he could kill be at 150mph.

A.) We I was driving bout 60 mph..MPH and not KPH. And we could have probably gone at it at 80mph for like a ˝ mile I was not sure of the final speed. I came form behind and over took him. On that stretch I was able to get about a foot ahead and still gaining more. It was not much but I was ahead. I had to slam on my brakes, swerve across 2 lanes to take my exit.

B.) 130 MPH SLIGHLY heavy traffic. There were cars and we had to go around them like a slalom course. I was on my way to work and a co-worker on the same highway saw me and said that he was just waiting for a huge explosion right ahead and that I was crazy going after the Corvette. Note: Not constant 130 now, which was the top speed. Average would say about 90-120 and sometimes as slow as 80 depending on the group of cars on the road for 7-9 miles. I bet, but we never got to that speed, that he would leave me at 150MPH as my car tops at 155MPH. Vetts hit 170MPH

Right_LiRrr
04-15-2005, 08:36 AM
Hahahaha, funny story. But I know exactly where you're coming from. Some of the Lancers with Evo bodykits are very deceiving...however, drum brakes in the rear. That's what always kills them.

Having said that, there is some 2 door lancer running around...east coast of Aus I think...with the plates "MRLNCR"...It's a Lancer MR (as in the coupe lancer) with an Evo4 engine and drivetrain conversion. Sounds pretty cool since it pretty much equates to an Evo coupe.

But yeah, my friend gets ricers in lancers trying to race him in his 12.3 second Supra TT all the time...why?...who knows.

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