The Replacement.

My mom replaced the 2000 Pontiac Grand Prix GT with a:
2004 Black 5.3L Chevrolet TahoeZ71 with 16,700 miles. The pictures will be posted next week when we take custody of it. It is going to be PiMpIn good times.

Nice, i like Tahoe's :bigthumb:

I like them too BUT I found a Denali set up to tow anything and she bought this truck it costed more too. But hey it aint my money.

Practical city driving. :rolleyes:

Fucking moron yanks with their enormous SUVs to contain themselves AND their ego's.

tahoes are cool denalis are better

tahoes are cool denalis are better

:iagree:

Practical city driving. :rolleyes:

Fucking moron yanks with their enormous SUVs to contain themselves AND their ego's.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Practical city driving. :rolleyes:

Fucking moron yanks with their enormous SUVs to contain themselves AND their ego's.
We are buying a stock trailer OZ. Hence my Handle(user/screenname) I have a horse and ride lots and so does my mother. We actually have a use for it.

Practical city driving. :rolleyes:

Fucking moron yanks with their enormous SUVs to contain themselves AND their ego's.

Agreed.

And why not just buy a pickup?

oh wait. not cool. Nevermind

I've sadly learned that the gear ratio maybe only a 3.55. Although great on gas unloaded towing will be a horror. Instead of taking 8 hours to get to highway speeds it will take 8 days. HOPEFULLY it will be 3.73s or 4.10s so this way it won't be as bad. I worked for a friend's dad who would let me use his truck and trailer that he uses for SPCA confenscations to ship the horse. Now I can pretty much stop working and concentrate on school now that we will have our own rig. :iceslolan

Now all we need is a drop ball and ball mount, brake controller, proper wiring or adapter, and a trailer.

The tahoe may already be ready for trailering. If it has the factory tow package(factory hitch, 8-pin connector), there will be a harness that can solder to the brake controller, then connect to a center under the dash. Then you plug in a fuse underhood and your brake controller is ready to go, no wires to really run.

I have a 2001 silverado 5.3L 3.73 Positraction, and it tows like theres nothing back there with about 4000 pounds. I know horse trailers are heavier, how much do you plan to tow?

Edit: typed in gear ratio incorrectly. Should have been 3.73, not 1.73. I suck at typing.

Practical city driving. :rolleyes:

Fucking moron yanks with their enormous SUVs to contain themselves AND their ego's.

Exactly. Fucking free will to buy whatever vehicle you can afford. Goddamn this country sucks. :rolleyes:

Congrats on the new vehicle NYCowboy. Tahoe's are one of the few GM trucks I like. :thumbsup:

Practical city driving. :rolleyes:

Fucking moron yanks with their enormous SUVs to contain themselves AND their ego's.
Fucking moron ozzies with their small brains and small hatchbacks to match. LOL Oz. Nice job failing to notice everything else he said. Once he said Tahoe you jumped on the opportunity to hate on "Yanks". We don't need that kind of labeling on this forum, remind yourself of our guidelines if you will. Thanks.

(lmao.. Im practicing for a mod audition)

Rick, if you look at the progression of your thread up to the point of my post....l.work it out.


I'm not hating on anyone in particular. It's hard to be objective on things that are ingrained culturally around you. I understand that. But DON'T ask me to like it. It is ABSOLUTE OVERKILL for what he needs.


And a RWD V8 ute is going to do a FUCKLOAD better job of towing ANYTHING then a 'SUV', and be cheaper to run, less harsh on the environment etc etc etc.


Next person to tell me to back down on this issue is going to cop a PAGE full of rhetoric so step the fuck down now, bitches.

I agree with Oz, that's why gas prices are so high, because nobody cares about what they drive. 10mpg SUVs are almost a standard :thumbsdown:

And a RWD V8 ute is going to do a FUCKLOAD better job of towing ANYTHING then a 'SUV', and be cheaper to run, less harsh on the environment etc etc etc.


Next person to tell me to back down on this issue is going to cop a PAGE full of rhetoric so step the fuck down now, bitches.

Unless he has people to haul as well. Then you're going to need that truck to tow and then another car to carry your people around. An SUV kind of does both jobs. Which, in that situation, is better for the environment since you're only using one vehicle.

BTW, where are those pictures NYCowboy??

most v8 pickups dont get that much better gas milage than SUVs. Given that it is better, not much.

most v8 pickups dont get that much better gas milage than SUVs. Given that it is better, not much.
Well, even a Trailblazer, which is a midsize SUV with an I6 engine gets better gas mileage than a Tahoe, and it can still tow somewhere around 5-6000 pounds, should be plenty for a trailer and a couple of horses.

Well, even a Trailblazer, which is a midsize SUV with an I6 engine gets better gas mileage than a Tahoe, and it can still tow somewhere around 5-6000 pounds, should be plenty for a trailer and a couple of horses.


good luck with that. and doesn't it only have an inline 5 cylinder?

Well, even a Trailblazer, which is a midsize SUV with an I6 engine gets better gas mileage than a Tahoe, and it can still tow somewhere around 5-6000 pounds, should be plenty for a trailer and a couple of horses.

:lol2:

No way in hell I'd try to pull a trailer and a couple horses with a non-diesel I-6.

Just get a Geo to tow large trailers, like that one vid :p

I like it how people who have no idea what they're talking about like to jump on others for ruining the world. I hate the grocery getting H2's as much as the next guy, but if you need to haul 2 horses 4 people AND all their riding gear, there is no freaking way you're going to do that in a pickup truck. What do you do if it rains and all your leathers/saddles/boots are in the bed of the pickup? Btw, how do trucks with the same engines as their SUV counterparts get better gas mileage? The weight difference is negligible at best. Lets see.
2004 Tahoe Z71: 14-16 city 18-19 Highway
2004 Silverado: 13-17 city 17-21 Highway
(source http://www.cars.com)

Save the environment! Get a pickup! bahahahahaha...oh, good times

Btw the trailblazer is rated at up to 6000 pounds WITH optional 4.10 ratio, however the gas mileage of that vehicle is only 14mpg city 18 mpg highway.(source http://www.chevrolet.com)

Anyone who has experience trailering heavy loads will tell you a V6 or I6 is definately NOT your first choice for towing due to lack of usable power and poor acceleration under load. Not to mention the other unfavorable characteristics of a smaller vehicle like the trailblazer such as handling, braking etc.

forget the trailer, just tye them to the bumper of ur civic, they'll keep up(maybe)lol j/k. pick-up, or suv would work fine. but u already have the tahoe, so i guess it doesnt matter.

I have a 2001 silverado 5.3L 3.73 Positraction, and it tows like theres nothing back there with about 4000 pounds. I know horse trailers are heavier, how much do you plan to tow?


The trailer with 2 horses is going to be in the 6500lb range.

Well, even a Trailblazer, which is a midsize SUV with an I6 engine gets better gas mileage than a Tahoe, and it can still tow somewhere around 5-6000 pounds, should be plenty for a trailer and a couple of horses.
Yes if you have a death wish. The rating is 6400lbs with weight distribution/sway control type of crap on it. That crap is expensive and for sissy horse trailers. We are pulling a livestock trailer. Not including the shity tow rating its a TERRIBLE tow vehicle(the trailblazer) due to the short wheelbase it will create a LOT of sway on the trailer. I used sway control once and I almost ended up in a ditch with a 35k car trailer with a 150k car inside.

I like it how people who have no idea what they're talking about like to jump on others for ruining the world. I hate the grocery getting H2's as much as the next guy, but if you need to haul 2 horses 4 people AND all their riding gear, there is no freaking way you're going to do that in a pickup truck. What do you do if it rains and all your leathers/saddles/boots are in the bed of the pickup? Btw, how do trucks with the same engines as their SUV counterparts get better gas mileage? The weight difference is negligible at best. Lets see.
2004 Tahoe Z71: 14-16 city 18-19 Highway
2004 Silverado: 13-17 city 17-21 Highway
(source http://www.cars.com)

Save the environment! Get a pickup! bahahahahaha...oh, good times

Btw the trailblazer is rated at up to 6000 pounds WITH optional 4.10 ratio, however the gas mileage of that vehicle is only 14mpg city 18 mpg highway.(source http://www.chevrolet.com)

Anyone who has experience trailering heavy loads will tell you a V6 or I6 is definately NOT your first choice for towing due to lack of usable power and poor acceleration under load. Not to mention the other unfavorable characteristics of a smaller vehicle like the trailblazer such as handling, braking etc.
A pickup is not an option right now. If we were to get a NICE pick up it would probably be a fully loaded 2500HD Duramax/Allison. I have friends with trucks and a truck and trailer from work but it a pain in the ass to drive. It's a 2003 Powerstroke Diesel Long Bed FX4 Offroad Crew cab. The trailer I haul horses with on the rare occasion is a 28' polo trailer its impractical to use to haul my mom out to a county or state park with. I can't stay or leave the trailer there. Its more convient you to have the SUV.

forget the trailer, just tye them to the bumper of ur civic, they'll keep up(maybe)lol j/k. pick-up, or suv would work fine. but u already have the tahoe, so i guess it doesnt matter.
1. I'd NEVER drive a civic. I won't even drive it to put on a flat bed for work. Usually I dont need to drive the cars since I am pretty good at backing up.
2. My horse probably can do the 1/4 mile faster then a civic could.

Well I need to give a little credit and shout out to my momma dukes cause she entered a hunter pace at the barn and got second place. My horse has to be the best horse there. Last week I let one of the barn kids take him to a ropin session in Cowtown,NJ and he shitted on everyone. I plan on showing him this summer some and grabbing lots of firsts. For his age(going to be 19) he is a GREAT horse and still VERY athletic,versitale, and WILLING to learn new things. Sorry to brag bout him but he's the man!

Look dude... youve got horses. Just ride them and hook a carriage to them. That would be more environmentally correct. You and your damn SUV.

Look dude... youve got horses. Just ride them and hook a carriage to them. That would be more environmentally correct.
Eh. He aint trained to do that nor built to pull anything.

Pictures will be taken probably friday.

Well the truck is sweet. I haven't driven it yet nor do I want to for a while. I want my sister or mother to put the first scratch or ding on it. I will have pictures monday or tuesday. I am using my friend's digital camera to take them versus spending .40 cents(us) sending a picture to my email.

I hate to admit it. OZ you were 100% correct. I did some research about a bunch of vehicles that could have been used as an alternative to the Gas guzzling Tahoe. I know the Tahoe is luxurious and all, but I can't say it was necessary. Here is what I came up with...


































http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/500/240896Pony-med.jpg

How do you expect my horse to do that. He can't even get on a ramped or non-ramped straightload trailer. But I gave up on using my phone because it would have costed me a boat load. I am trying to find my friend's digital camera how he lost it is beyond me. It isnt even one that is the size of a medium sized cell phone either. When I find it you guys will have pictures. I bet we will have a trailer before I find the camera. If so you guys will get pictures with and without a trailer hooked up.

I hate to admit it. OZ you were 100% correct. I did some research about a bunch of vehicles that could have been used as an alternative to the Gas guzzling Tahoe. I know the Tahoe is luxurious and all, but I can't say it was necessary. Here is what I came up with...


































http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/500/240896Pony-med.jpg
How do I make that picture go in my sig?

press reply w/ quote, then highlight all the text at the bottom of my post, (the picture code), then go to User CP at the top of the screen, go to signature, and paste the picture code in there.

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Thanks Rick.

After going on a white knuckled ride with my sister in the Tahoe I have a feeling it will be flipped if there are no driving style changes made. But I will have pictures of it sometime this week hopefully.

After going on a white knuckled ride with my sister in the Tahoe I have a feeling it will be flipped if there are no driving style changes made.
She's that bad huh?

Practical city driving. :rolleyes:

Fucking moron yanks with their enormous SUVs to contain themselves AND their ego's.

:smile: :werd: :)

She got better on the way home. She wants to learn to ride and drive a stock trailer. I told her she best learn to drive something thats big first.

Hey Oz, don't be hating the SUVs man.

I find it that they are very practicle. Shoot you can't carry 20 kilos of stash in a pickup running 100 miles an hour from the cops unless it flies all over the hyway. With an SUV at least it stays inside nice and dry and so are the occupants.
:lol2:

Long live the SUV, to hell with the puny wagons (like the Nissan Pulsar). :lol: :p

IBL

TS out (hiding from Grants wrath)

For being a truck based vehicle it drives like a damn caddy. For a 45,000 dollar truck it drives straight as an hour and has all the goodies. I could get used to it. But I am going to be needing to put some Firestone RideRites in to keep it level. Definitely going to need some LT(light truck) rated tires. I put my toolbox in to take it where I do an apprenticeship and the tires went to hell just from taking a 150 pound box(with tools in it) no more then 4 miles. So much for these goodforayear Wrangler AT/S holding up with a trailer. Those LT rated tires will DEFINITELY desissy it. So will our ball mount with a 2 5/16 or 2" ball on it. It is going to be fun in the summer watching people trip over it for walking too close. :evillol: I still have to drive it for myself hopefully tomorrow mom will let me take it for a spin. She cant stop fucking driving the thing and she says she hates it. I COULD take it out now since I do have the registration(a copy of it) but that'd be um deadly.

Mom let me drive it. I have to say it looks like it's more truck then I expected. It got on the parkway with a enterance ramp no bigger then 500ft and was doing sixty 3/4 threw it and that wasn't close to flooring it. I used to "fix" a tree on one of the trails and I ended up pulling straight out of the ground. The tree was of decent size too. 1-2 Ft around and 10-11 ft high. We also hooked to a trailer and pulled to the barn yard and the surgery around the block with one horse. even though had no brakes did fine. Oh and mom don't know about doing either LOL.

Practical city driving. :rolleyes:

Fucking moron yanks with their enormous SUVs to contain themselves AND their ego's.

damn...that was a real ass hole thing to say :loser:

When are we going to get the pics?

damn...that was a real ass hole thing to say :loser:


welcome to Australia.

Hopefully later on today pictures will be up later on today.

Hopefully later on today pictures will be up later on today.
They will definitely be on tonight I am taking them with my phone.

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