I'm back, kinda... and Dyno results.

Hey guys... Sorry I havent been around much. I've been very busy with 97_3clipse's car. That has been such a pain, I have never seen a car that had so many broken bolts! :p Anywho... I finally got to the dyno on monday. My buddy also came with his SRT4 that has a couple mods to it. He dynoed 264hp to the wheels, he only did 2 runs and that was his best. He wasnt tuning or anything so thats why, he just wanted to see how much hp his car had. I did about 7-8 runs and my first run was the best of them all. 275whp @ 26psi... VERY LEAN. It started to worry me. Screwed around with the cam gears, boost settings and fuel trims and brought the boost down to 15psi and pumped out 274.6whp! Very pleased. As I was preping for the dyno on sunday I forgot I was still on the stock fuel pump until the computer kept saying I was running really lean. Thinking to myself WTF is going on. I know I'm not maxing out the injectors at 15psi thats for damn sure! Then on the way home it hit me. STOCK FUEL PUMP! So thats my project this saturday night before the track opens on sunday. Should be interesting to see what I can run! Anyways I have a video of about 3 dyno runs of mine and 2 of my buddies and also a run where my WG hose blew off and I hit 30psi with the camera on the gauge, I thought I blew my motor! Sounds horrible. I dont know how to post them so if someone knows how get a hold of me and let me know. I gotta run get more parts for Jakes car so I can get that thing together and going and get it back to him! I'll probably be back later with pics of the 7bolt to 6bolt install.

Here is two just for teasing purposes. I think it looks really fucking nice!
Just the short block.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v627/Jake30/DSC00281.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v627/Jake30/DSC00282.jpg

So, how accurate is the gtech then?

275hp.....26psi......damnit! i wish i had like 50 grand to play with lol. those are some pretty good numbers. that block looks nice as hell too.

damn! 26 psi is alot dude. But pushing 275 at the wheels with 26 psi? shouldnt there be more?! good thing you're working with the stock fuel pump and other stuff

nice numbers , that 6 bolt is gonna be worth the wait.....awsome job!

275hp.....26psi......damnit! i wish i had like 50 grand to play with lol. those are some pretty good numbers. that block looks nice as hell too.
I'll sell you 278whp at 19psi for 1/10th of that.


Nice numbers Jake. :iceslolan

The same hp at 15psi and 26psi, I'm surprised the motor didn't explode.

Lol I'm sure the motor wasn't very happy about the knock that was going on.

I have every confidence Jake will be in the 320hp range on pump gas after he gets the proper fuel mods.

Sounds pretty sweet... would love to see the videos!! Would love it even more if jake would get a car with that 6bolt rebuild in it for me which i've been waiting for about a month for!!! hint hint... :banghead:

I tried guessing at the MBC setting at the shootout last year. Boost guage hit the pin at 35 psi. It would have scared the hell out of me, but it blew out the spark and fouled the plugs. Saved the motor probably.

What was the airflow on those dyno runs?

what was the airflow on those dyno runs?

Jake told me it was like 38 lbs./min.

hey jake, is that aftermarket, or factory front case, h20 pump & pipe?

They look stock to me. There might be parts store water pumps available, in fact thats very likely, but the only place to get the front water pipe is the dealer.

All of it is from the dealer. All is brand new. I dont like to fuck around with old shit when building a brand new motor. I am very picky when it comes to building them and I'd rather buy new so I know its flawless! Yea I'm almost possitive the motor wasnt too happy about that 30psi spike I got but hopefully she is fine. I build my motors to handle what I can throw at it so I kinda expected it to hold to gether for that! Didnt sound too good though. As soon as Joe Mathews hosts my vids you all can see. :icon16:But yea my car was running very lean due to the maxing out of the stock fuel pump. Now I just have to install the 255 pump I have for it and be done with it. I'll find out when the track opens!

oh don't worry , the track is open and waiting.... :P

that's cool cant wait to see your vids.
that pump should help out alot

wow. That just tells you how important correct tuning is... the same HP at 15psi and 26 psi...wow.

So jake is your Rst faster then your GST? scince your RST put out about 350whp.

Yea I need to get rid of my 550cc injectors, now I want 650-680cc injectors and go for some hopefully nice respectable numbers. I know I have no chance at comparing to SBR's 400whp on the Evo 16g but I want to try to get as close as I can to it! I have a walbro 255lph pump that is going in tonight so that should help out with the fuel delivery problem I was having before.

Anyways, Joemathews is hosting the video for me and whenever he gets it up I'll have him post it. What you should watch for is the first run that I taped the camera was on the boost gauge, 20psi is at about 2-o-clock, thats where it set pretty much the whole run. The 3rd run is where you need to remember where the numbers are at. At about 3-o-clock is 30psi and thats where she spiked to when the vacuum line blew off the WG. (Fuck zip ties - metal hose clamps from now on!!!) The 2nd and 4th runs were from in front of the car. I love the motor mounts. They help so much its hardly noticable when I get into it and let off if you turn the volume down. Before it use to vibrate like a bitch!

My mods are as follows:
Brand new rebuilt 6 bolt with 3k miles
Motor Mounts
HKS 272/272 cams
HKS Cam Gears
RC 550cc injectors
Walbro 255lph pump (installing today - didnt have it at the dyno)
2.5" LICP
Greddy Type RS on J-pipe
3" to 3.5" and back to 3" UICP
3.5" GM MAF
MAF Translator
24x12x3 Bar and Plate FMIC
ACT 2600# clutch
Kazz LSD
O2 External dump
3" O2 Back, No muffler or resignators ( 2 bends :icon16: )
S-AFCII
AVC-R
Evo III 16g
Removed:
AC
Emissions
Balance shafts

I'm sure there is some other little shit that I have done to it but that is the big stuff. Hope you guys like the video. I should have another one when the track opens! :biggrin:

Just to let you guys know you either need to convert the file to WMP or MPEG in most circumstances. Or you can go to www.divx.com (http://www.divx.com/) and download the free version and then you will be able to watch it fine...

ALL BECAUSE THIS MORON (joe) Wouldnt accept anything but AVI cause APPLE IS GAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :p

well its 1:47am central time and jake just left from delivering my car... cant wait till drive it... more pics, videos and details about the build comming soon!!!!

Great to hear that the car is done--Jake said you all documented the process pretty thoroughly, so that is awesome! Take it easy on her for a while, though :p

(I know it will be hard with the 14b on there :D)

dude, where around you guys Dyno at EclipseRST? Elite or some other place? NICE! i wouldnt doubt seeing it around here! ;D

Great to hear that the car is done--Jake said you all documented the process pretty thoroughly, so that is awesome! Take it easy on her for a while, though :p

(I know it will be hard with the 14b on there :D)


I know that when jake gets done on my new car, 97 talon tsi, it will be terrifyingly hard to go easy on it with the evoIII16g!!!!!! I told the wifey she can't drive it for AT LEAST 2 months until I get it broken in..lol.. then after she drives it i'll probably have to take it back to jake to get it fixed.... :naughty:
Glad to hear you got your car jake/97_3clipse let us know how much fun ya have!!!

well tonight i drove for a solid 3 hours in stop and go traffic.
dont worry joe i didnt take it a RPM over 4k :nono: .
as far as boosting the turbo all i can do is the "bird call" or chirp havent gotton on the gas and i wont till the cars completely broken in.
not to say any thing negitive aginst jake and his work (because he did a fine ass job) . i did have a nice oil leak , leaking from the valve cover gasket right on to the exhaust manifold, two bolts ended up being stripped.
now i also leaked oil from the dip stick(damn breather filter) but i zip tied that down. there still is a oil leak some were but ill just have to wait till tommorow to see were its comming from...(probally nothing big, its drips very very slowly)
i also changed the oil today , hope i dont loose all of it by tommorow..lol.. but all and all the car runs perfect and i love the clutch...the polyurthane motor mounts arnt as bad vibration as i thought they would be.....i just have to slim down my key chain to keep them from rattling...
also with the 14b i can feel the lag over the t25 especially in 3rd and 4th....your looking at a satified costomer.. iwould recomend jakes services to any one on this fourm or even in the US...

PS:if i had a dollar for every honda that took off at a light thinking i would race :nono:

-Jake

Sweet 97_3clipse.... gives me some more hope for my car!!!!!!! lol And murphy's law dictates just that... when ya got the power and can't use it, that is when all the spota's come out of the woodwork!!!! lol
OK again I will state what a spota is....example "that honduh drivers spota be cool but he isn't" lol

Oh yeah... jake, watched the video... pretty sweet!!!!

damn those are some nice numbers. Should be badass when you tune it with the fuel pump for 21psi!