is this a drop?

hi. i came across this pic and the owner said theres no drop.... and then i came across another pic and said there was no drop... but theres a huge difference... look of yourself..
http://www.cardomain.com/member_pages/show_image.pl?fg=0000FF&bg=666666&migration=1&image=http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/787000-787999/787942_4_full.jpg
http://www.hondashowoff.com/profile.php?id=4750
with out any drop on both cars... is that what 17s (red civic) and 16s (black civic) would look like?
thanks

my bad..red civic (http://www.hondashowoff.com/profile.php?id=4750)
black civic (http://http://www.cardomain.com/member_pages/show_image.pl?fg=0000FF&bg=666666&migration=1&image=http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/787000-787999/787942_1_full.jpg)

The link for the black civic does not redirect properly. As far as the red civic it look like there has indeed been no drop in the suspension. Onw thing to consider between the two cars is the wheel size. Is the balck one on 17s as well or are they larger or smaller?

DoubleTap

sorry the link didn't work. i can't find the site again. but on the red civic... the wheels are 17s and wheels are 205/45/17. i was just wondering because ive seen real dramatic differences. thanks alot

yeah, definately no drop on the red civic, and the other link no worky.