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IDE RaiD
07-07-2001, 11:06 PM
What is a decent performing muffler for a '94 Honda Accord EX? I'm looking for a good cost-performance solution...don't wanna have to pay an arm and a leg. The most I wanna pay is $100. Keep in mind I ONLY need the muffler...not the whole system. Any help would be appreciated. Thnx.

JD@af
07-08-2001, 07:06 AM
Uhhh... for $100? Well then, I suggest you pick up a JC Whitney catalog or something similar, and get yourself a 2.25" diameter glass pack, perhaps with a turbolator or similar exhaust tip. If you are serious about sticking to $100 bucks, you are really cutting your foot off when it comes to aftermarket performance exhausts. I don't think I've seen anything (i.e. that is anything NEW) in this regard for less than $300 to $400. But I think a glass pack muffler, either at this diameter or fit to your current exhaust diameter (get it checked - I believe your exhaust is 1 7/8" diameter) would be your best bet for cost. You could go straight pipe, but I know I sure as hell don't want to be driving around in something that loud (and the cops won't be liking you either).

IDE RaiD
07-08-2001, 08:31 AM
LOL. But I just need the muffler. You're telling me that performance mufflers themselves are $300-400? Shiet. Maybe I need another job to pay this crap off!!! LOL :D The reason I say "under $100" is because I feel I can get something decent, or something better than just stock exhaust shiet. For instance, Flowmaster mufflers, which I know isn't the BEST brand by any means, are like $30-80...depending on the series. My bro has a 50 series Flowmaster on his 240sx. It boosts HP pretty good, but it's too damn loud. Well, I'll be looking around some more. Help is always appreciated.

R35
07-09-2001, 11:39 PM
Always remember the golden rule.
You get what you pay for. Pay nothing, get nothing.:)

Also as far as "It boosts HP pretty good". Have you ever put the car on a dyno (before and after)? Does it REALLY boost the horsepower? or does it just feel like it because it's louder? or maybe the clerk at Napa told you it would?

Either way no dyno numbers no truth to it. Just save three times as much, it may take 3 times longer to get that exhaust, but in the long run you'll get something better than say blowing a $100 bucks on some cheapo and then regretting it later.

Good luck

And for crying out loud STAY THE HELL AWAY from the Coffee can exhausts. PLEASE

IDE RaiD
07-10-2001, 07:41 AM
Yeah, I agree. Don't worry about me getting a Bomb muffler (I think that's what they're called). Yes, I have a 4 cyl, but it's not a 4 cyl. go-cart and I have no idea why people want their cars sounding like one. When I said "It boosts HP pretty good", I meant that I have physically driven the car before and after and noticed somewhat of a difference. Yes, it is a lot louder but I don't think that affected it. Thnx for your comments. I agree when you say to pay more now, rather than paying for a POS and regretting it later. Well, later guys. Thnx again.

flylwsi
07-10-2001, 08:51 PM
wow.... do you know about the bomb at all? i have one on my lude, and i redid the whole exh up to it in 2.25in piping... all mandrel bent...
it is deep, loud, powerful, and hell, it sounds good when you echo off a bridge... it is even decent with the insert in. but the fuggin thing is 189.
there are other muffs out there with tips on em for around 129ish... that is the cheapest you are gonna get...
they are made my arospeed, pilot motorsports, toucan, vibrant... hell they are all the same universal muffler anyways... just figure that an oval or large circular body will be quieter than a slim circle like the bomb... but they are all pretty much straight thru designs... decent power if you add the bigger pipe from the cat... but it seems you dont wanna do that...

WickedLou9
07-27-2001, 06:08 PM
It's not possible.


Your stock piping is 1 and 1/4 "... so you woudl need a massive adapter to convert it to the 2.5" muffler.

get a cat back system for like 300 bucks. It's worth the money.

GOD
07-28-2001, 01:54 AM
Originally posted by WickedLou9
It's not possible.


Your stock piping is 1 and 1/4 "... so you woudl need a massive adapter to convert it to the 2.5" muffler.

get a cat back system for like 300 bucks. It's worth the money. Definitly Don't be cheap when it comes to your car .....Just an old saying Either go ALL out or Don't go out at ALL !

Starchild
09-24-2001, 08:59 PM
Hey everyone, I have no knowledge in anything about car modifications. :)

So, what does that cat thing do and why should I get one? I am interested in a muffler too for my Honda Accord 99 EX V4. Paying around $200-300 for a muffler is good enough, right?

I was wondering....if you add a muffler, do you have to change anything else so nothing will mess up the engine or so? Thanks

WickedLou9
09-25-2001, 08:20 AM
the cat, short for catalytic converter is an emissions device. It is basically a device that looks like a muffler that is installed inline with your exhaust about half way between the engine and the muffler. inside this device is a honeycomb like structure which is made up of several different 'catalysts' ( platinum, and a few others) Basically when the pollutants from your engine pass through the cat, the substances in the converter react with the pollutants to convert them to less harmful substances like Carbon Dioxide and water. without a cat, you will not pass the emissions test.

With that being said, the cat is also one of the most restrictive portions of your exhaust. some people install "high flow" catalytic converters, which can be had for about 200-300 dollars. others choose to remove the stock one, and "gut" out the insides. still others remove it all together and install a straight pipe in it's place... the last two options are not legal, but will give you the most performace gains. Especially if your car is turbo charged. A high flow converter is the only legal way to upgrade that portion of your exhaust system.

A "cat back" exhaust system is just as it sounds... It is a new exhaust system that replaces every stock component from the catalytic converter on back to the muffler. Generally employing larger diameter piping, mandrel bends ( smooth bends, instead of the rippled kind), and a straight through flow design muffler.

You wont see big gains from a cat back system on a typical honda 4cyl engine.. if you install only a muffler, it will have to have the same stock diameter piping as the rest of your system. which is probably around 1.5 inches. you really wont see much if any of a gain from this mod... other than a louder sound.

On the dyno you would be lucky to see 1 or 2 HP from this modification...
If you got headers, A high flow cat, and a cat back system for your 4cyl accord, despite what the magazines say, you could see somewhere in the vicinity of a 10Hp gain at the wheels. and that is with a significant investment.. (300 for headers, 300 for cat, 300 for exhaust)

If you are looking for power gains, the muffler is not a good place to look, although it is generally a necasary step in the process of boosting power.


If all you need is a replacement muffler for your stock one, and you dont care about performance, look into a DynoMax. I had one installed on my 91 accord, with a little bit of creative welding and alot of ugly mess, they were successful in installing a 2.5" diameter muffler on my stock system. it sounded good. not too loud, and cheap. ( 150?)

Starchild
09-26-2001, 02:41 PM
THanks for the help.
Is it okay to leave the cat stock version under your car and just add a muffler? I want something decent that won't be too loud. :sun:

I am not going for any speed gains or turbo on my car....I just want to modify it for looks. I am installing a muffler for the sound, and not for any speed or HP gains. Thanks for the information again.

Cya

WickedLou9
09-26-2001, 03:05 PM
Yeah if you just want a louder sound, just getting a good muffler will do the job. You dont need to change anything else.

Starchild
09-26-2001, 07:36 PM
Great!
Thanks :D

TIZAO
10-30-2001, 12:52 AM
Hey man I can hook you up. I have high flow cats for under $100, and I can get you a phat exhaust for your car ceap too, like 120 or so, +or-$30. I got a shop so its all good ish, just let me know what you want and the price you want to spend, and we can work out a deal. That goes for everyone, anything you want, let me know, and I can hook you up.:alien: :bloated: :licker: :smoka:

Polygon
11-01-2001, 12:13 PM
Speaking of mufflers.
Now I could care less about the cost. But right now I would like to replace my stock muffler with a chrome muffler or just have chrom tips welded on. Key thing here is, I want NO sound change at all. I love the way my car sounds. It is has a deep growl to it. I want this to purly cosmetic.

This all come about because the place I had paint my car painted the exuast black. How I am not sure being there is nothing black on my car. So right now I have some screwed on checker auto tips. They look ok, but will eventually rust the tips and themselfs.

Now does anyone know of some mufflers that won't change my sound just the looks? I know there are tips that won't.

TIZAO
11-02-2001, 01:47 PM
I believe there are muflers like that, I will go check, it will be about 130 to 150 dollars though. :alien: :bloated: :licker: :smoka:

TIZAO
11-02-2001, 07:28 PM
Ok 180 wont affect sound at all but will give your performance!:alien: :bloated: :licker: :smoka:

TIZAO
11-02-2001, 07:31 PM
Originally posted by IDE RaiD
What is a decent performing muffler for a '94 Honda Accord EX? I'm looking for a good cost-performance solution...don't wanna have to pay an arm and a leg. The most I wanna pay is $100. Keep in mind I ONLY need the muffler...not the whole system. Any help would be appreciated. Thnx. Hey I can help you with that. E-mail or just respond here and I can get you a muffler it will look real good on your car, I have pretty much anystyle!:alien: :bloated: :licker: :smoka:

TouringAccord
11-02-2001, 11:42 PM
Hey wickedlou, i own a 96 accord ex vtec sedan, and after installing my tanabe,"cat-back", exhaust system i went straight to the dyno, 157 HP at the wheels, thats a jump from my stock 145..... just lettin you know the experience i had, maybe different with other cars or maybe i just got a real good cat back exhaust, but all i know is i gained 12 horsepower, and i can feel it.

super 96 accord
11-07-2001, 08:50 PM
Please don't ruin it for the rest of us with some $100 POS.

super 96 accord
11-07-2001, 08:53 PM
Hey, I have a Tanabe too!! I haven't really found too many other people willing to shell out that kind of $$$ just for an exhaust!! My philosophy is "If you're gonna do it at all, do it right!!"

What kind did you get? I have the DTM and LOVE IT!!!!!

TIZAO
11-07-2001, 08:57 PM
If your talkin to me...no its all OBX racing..its good ish....let me know if you want to order....anystyle.:alien: :bloated: :licker: :smoka:

Starchild
11-11-2001, 04:00 PM
Well I was on a tight budget too and I got this awesome muffler from here:
http://www.customimages-online.com/cgi-bin/eGreyl/eGreyl.cgi?&shop=ci&language=eng&curr=0&xa=&session=&cart_id=&product=Mufflers

Universal Muffler: Dragger US$ 119.95

It sounds REALLY AWESOME. I removed it's silencer and it sounds even better. You can hear it well enough when not even gasing it. With the intake I have, it really makes your car sound like a race car. You can order that muffler or others online from that link. We have a local custom images store in our mall so I just went there and got it....the only one left. I was lucky since another guy wanted to buy one right after I bought it but wasn't lucky enough. ;)

If you want to spend $100 on a muffler, I really suggest putting about $30 more into it and getting a good muffler because it will PAY OFF, believe it. There is a reason why some mufflers cost $300, but that shouldn't be your reason to get those since you want a decent performance muffler just like I wanted.

Cya

TIZAO
11-11-2001, 04:14 PM
Hey what brand are those?:alien: :bloated: :licker: :smoka:

Starchild
11-11-2001, 05:57 PM
Don't really know but its awesome. I like them. Not too loud, and not too quiet.

JD@af
11-11-2001, 10:20 PM
I've seen these mufflers around. They look they have respectable build quality. I'd like to see some dyno charts to see what kind of airflow increases and horsepower gains then can bring to a given car. For me, that's what it really comes down to: SHOW ME THE MONEY.

Starchild
11-12-2001, 02:13 PM
Hmm, well I am not sure if I can give you some dyno charts (does it cost anything to do this? and where do you do this?), but I can tell you that the engine somehow seems like it has about 170 HP now instead of 150 it had. Don't forget the intake addon too. :)

Well I don't know, I am just a regular driver and can't really tell too much from speed gains but I DID notice a difference when I installed the muffler. The intake has more room to breath and somehow seems to work easier now. You can feel the muffler even while you are driving the car in the low RPM's, and it sounds even better! I haven't really heard my car going fast since the intake sound kicks in and distracts.

hehe, well doh. Anyhow... :frog:

justlikethis
12-20-2001, 08:34 PM
Hey star, does that exhaust have a good sound to it? Is it a deep sound that isnt really loud? Cuz that's what I want.

Hdoubledueceaccord
01-01-2002, 05:34 AM
hey you wanna a muffler for 100 bucks go to pep boys jeeze your pathetic.

JasonAccord98LX
01-08-2002, 10:14 PM
Originally posted by Starchild
Hmm, well I am not sure if I can give you some dyno charts (does it cost anything to do this? and where do you do this?), but I can tell you that the engine somehow seems like it has about 170 HP now instead of 150 it had. Don't forget the intake addon too. :)

Well I don't know, I am just a regular driver and can't really tell too much from speed gains but I DID notice a difference when I installed the muffler. The intake has more room to breath and somehow seems to work easier now. You can feel the muffler even while you are driving the car in the low RPM's, and it sounds even better! I haven't really heard my car going fast since the intake sound kicks in and distracts.

hehe, well doh. Anyhow... :frog:

No offense man, but you cant gain 20 hp by simply installing a muffler and an intake. I think that around 10 (MAX) is what you got.

TIZAO
01-09-2002, 12:28 AM
Originally posted by justlikethis
Hey star, does that exhaust have a good sound to it? Is it a deep sound that isnt really loud? Cuz that's what I want. Im telling you I got what you want!!! E-mail me and we will talk! [email protected] I have good good exhaust! I have intake too! So come talk to me!!! :alien: :bloated: :licker: :smoka:

JasonAccord98LX
01-09-2002, 12:38 AM
Originally posted by super 96 accord
Please don't ruin it for the rest of us with some $100 POS.

i agree. either that or they are stolen goods. no offense tizao, but you sound pretty fishy to me.

Digitized1
01-09-2002, 02:34 AM
I drive a 94 accord ex also, and I have is a Tannabe muffler...
nice sound...at low revs, it sounds deep and at high speeds, driving you don't hear it but everyone else does! =)

TIZAO
01-09-2002, 03:21 PM
Originally posted by JasonAccord98LX


i agree. either that or they are stolen goods. no offense tizao, but you sound pretty fishy to me. Hey no offense taken. If you wan't you can talk to WickedG20 He bought an intake/exhaust package from me. He loves it. If you want some reasurance talk to him! :alien: :bloated: :licker: :smoka: I'm legit....my 200+ posts arent there cuz I sell a lot. I buy here too, so I am somewhat known. Let me know if you or anyone is interested.:alien: :bloated: :licker: :smoka:

Dahmin8
01-12-2002, 07:50 PM
The Speed People.com have OBX mufflers for as little as $109.00 US.

TIZAO
01-13-2002, 03:35 PM
Originally posted by Dahmin8
The Speed People.com have OBX mufflers for as little as $109.00 US. This is true, but have you done business with them? I never have, they could be good or bad. Mine cost a little more, but I will always be here to talk to if you have questions or concerns. Plus if I do bad then it will be on the forum, I am here alot and woulnt want my name to be bad! :alien: :bloated: :licker: :smoka:

Dahmin8
01-13-2002, 04:27 PM
My statement wasn't intended to knock what you do. If this is a concern for you don't let competition ruin your drive to become sucessful. Whether or not the OBX mufflers are any good I don't know. Speed People.com does seem to be a big competitor in aftermarket parts sales.:smoker2:

TIZAO
01-14-2002, 12:20 PM
Originally posted by Dahmin8
My statement wasn't intended to knock what you do. If this is a concern for you don't let competition ruin your drive to become sucessful. Whether or not the OBX mufflers are any good I don't know. Speed People.com does seem to be a big competitor in aftermarket parts sales.:smoker2:
Thats fine I understand, I am just trying to justify for my little bit higher prices than speedpops......thanks for the encouragement though.

Dahmin8
01-14-2002, 06:14 PM
You sound like a really down to earth person TIZAO. Good luck on your future business endeavors.:silly2: :p :) :D ;) :alien2: :frog: :smoka: :smoker2: :sun: :flash: :smoker: :licker:

JasonAccord98LX
01-14-2002, 08:39 PM
loL

TIZAO
01-15-2002, 12:19 PM
Originally posted by Dahmin8
You sound like a really down to earth person TIZAO. Good luck on your future business endeavors.:silly2: :p :) :D ;) :alien2: :frog: :smoka: :smoker2: :sun: :flash: :smoker: :licker: Hey thanks man and remember when you want intake or exhaust, I am the man to talk to. :alien: :bloated: :licker: :smoka:

PartsDreamer
07-06-2002, 12:56 PM
What is better Magnaflow, Ractive, or Dragunfire. Anybody have info or advice?

kings_blend
08-18-2003, 03:11 AM
hey TIZAO how much for a high flow cat for my 92 accord?

TIZAO
08-18-2003, 03:20 AM
About 100 bucks :p :biggrin: :licka: :sunglasse

AKKORDINGLY SICK
08-20-2003, 07:30 PM
my question is are your hi flow cats emission legal, or even cali legal?

TIZAO
08-21-2003, 12:40 AM
I honestly dont know and cant guarantee that it is legal. I have seen cars pass and i have seen some not pass......I dont have an exhaust and have one of these, and I passed with flying colors. But like I said, no promise. :p :biggrin: :sunglasse :licka:

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