how safe is it to go 150+
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lickem
04-03-2005, 12:51 PM
hello, i was just wondering the risks involved in going 150-155+ in a ls1 powered camaro, i mean i know the obvious ones such as dying, i just want to know how mechanically capable the car is of traveling at these speeds, i mean i seriously go that fast all the time and i am fairly confident driving at those speeds, i do have z rated tires
ViperJ
04-03-2005, 01:02 PM
You can do 150mph with 4.10 gears... Anyway you would want to improve downforce if you are constinatly going that fast. Other than that I am not sure
Savage Messiah
04-03-2005, 01:07 PM
wel aside from the fact that youre gonna put other in danger and will probably get arrested, keep in mind hitting bumps and whatnot are more dangerous the higher your speed is... and yea what do you top out with with your 4.10s?
lickem
04-03-2005, 01:16 PM
i set my speed limiter at 162
im the only person on the road
cant arrest what you cant catch
im the only person on the road
cant arrest what you cant catch
korndogg
04-03-2005, 01:28 PM
cant arrest what you cant catch
its called a radio. :icon16:
its called a radio. :icon16:
lickem
04-03-2005, 01:49 PM
theyll arrest me with a radio? tie my hands up with the curly cord, bonk me on the head with the mic?
but seriously i hit those speed in a valley where i can see for about 4 miles, i can see if theres a cop
but seriously i hit those speed in a valley where i can see for about 4 miles, i can see if theres a cop
cooltc2004
04-03-2005, 02:39 PM
You cant outrun the radio, and I hope that was a smartass remark what you said ;)
They will call cops down the road for a road block.
They will call cops down the road for a road block.
camaromaniac
04-03-2005, 03:32 PM
heard of police choppers?
Morley
04-03-2005, 04:06 PM
heard of police choppers?
I have, and the police Jet Rangers top out at 140 mph.
I have, and the police Jet Rangers top out at 140 mph.
brass_monkey93
04-03-2005, 05:08 PM
i understand its fun to drive fast, but its people like you that think they can drive really fast and not get caught or get into an accident that make everyone else pay for insurance and the extra look by the cops..
-Josh-
04-03-2005, 06:23 PM
There's no reason why you should want to go that fast unless you're in some kind of race, in which case it should be at a track of some kind, like a proving ground. But go ahead, drive 150+ and prove to us the cops can't catch you, go ahead.
Genopsyde
04-03-2005, 10:22 PM
From what I read he asked how well the car can withstand that speed and for how long. Not whether or not we think he can outrun the cops or not. If he can he can, if not, that's his problem.
As for how the car will hold up, it will cause a lot more heat and friction on the engine internals, it will cause parts to wear at a much faster than normal rate. It'll pretty much last as long as you can keep up with maintaining it for that kind of abuse. I wouldn't do it to my car on a regular basis.
As for how the car will hold up, it will cause a lot more heat and friction on the engine internals, it will cause parts to wear at a much faster than normal rate. It'll pretty much last as long as you can keep up with maintaining it for that kind of abuse. I wouldn't do it to my car on a regular basis.
z28 boy
04-03-2005, 10:29 PM
Im gonna guess urs is a M6 for u to hit 150 with 4.10's. What are u revvin and in what gear at 150?
Xenostalgia
04-03-2005, 11:10 PM
Im gonna guess urs is a M6 for u to hit 150 with 4.10's. What are u revvin and in what gear at 150?
Thats what I'm wondering. Also you may want to research the effects of Ram Air being damaging since its actually working (assuming SS badges are legit etc)
Also I agree with more downforce. Get a bigger wing, not rycer at all but if you are doing it you want your rear end firmly down on the payment.
Also how LONG do you keep it +150? Curvy or just straight? Uphill or downlhill? Lil factors that add up. Also can you give a temperture of the area? that would affect your wear and tear.
As Hypsi said, if you are doing that kind it just makes everythign wear out faster in general.
Probably question everyone has in back of their mind: Why?
Thats what I'm wondering. Also you may want to research the effects of Ram Air being damaging since its actually working (assuming SS badges are legit etc)
Also I agree with more downforce. Get a bigger wing, not rycer at all but if you are doing it you want your rear end firmly down on the payment.
Also how LONG do you keep it +150? Curvy or just straight? Uphill or downlhill? Lil factors that add up. Also can you give a temperture of the area? that would affect your wear and tear.
As Hypsi said, if you are doing that kind it just makes everythign wear out faster in general.
Probably question everyone has in back of their mind: Why?
ridge_runner
04-03-2005, 11:23 PM
with the mods you have your car should do 150+ pretty good, and you just gotta be smart about where you do it, ive done it once and didnt get caught, i pegged out past 160 racing a tt supra but that was in the mustang, and it felt just fine
testtube
04-03-2005, 11:27 PM
As Hypsi said, if you are doing that kind it just makes everythign wear out faster in general.
You said Hypsi.:slap:
You said Hypsi.:slap:
Xenostalgia
04-04-2005, 12:27 AM
eh sorry ment geno, kinda was winging it :)
KaotiKCamaro5
04-04-2005, 02:07 AM
Xeno.. time to change yur sig, John and Hypsi have been back for like 3 days now...
Xenostalgia
04-04-2005, 09:59 AM
time to change your face, the 80's are over =)
Nah i just got back in town the other day. I'll change it eventually. :P i like my icon of me whacking the AF admins
Nah i just got back in town the other day. I'll change it eventually. :P i like my icon of me whacking the AF admins
Twitch1
04-04-2005, 10:34 AM
Hitting 150 or whatever high speed on a 4 mile level stretch of open road is mostly dangerous to the driver only. This is assuming that you don't hit anyone. It's pretty safe really with a mecahnically sound car. How long do you want to hit 150? 2-3 miles, less? How often? Every day? If it's just once in a while it will not hurt a sound engine. To do it daily over a stretch of road you travel on the way to work or Grandma's house WILL accelerate engine wear.
Back in the 70 I wore a badge for about a year and my Dad was in law enforcement all his life. There was a saying that every cop knew "Nothing outruns my Motorola." True then, true now. How many guys running from the law do we see get away on Worlds Wildest Police Chases? They may describe one in 25 shows. And they only ALLOW that because some a-hole was involved in wreckless endangering.
Back in the 70 I wore a badge for about a year and my Dad was in law enforcement all his life. There was a saying that every cop knew "Nothing outruns my Motorola." True then, true now. How many guys running from the law do we see get away on Worlds Wildest Police Chases? They may describe one in 25 shows. And they only ALLOW that because some a-hole was involved in wreckless endangering.
Hypsi87
04-04-2005, 10:43 AM
It really does not matter what modifications you have. Cage no cage, this type of brakes vs. thoes, what speed rated tires you have, seat belt not seat belt. 150 is dangrous to your equipment and yourself. Now I am not saying that I condone it. I have done it many times but, I am willing to take the risk and I have done everything possible to minimize the risks of it.
It kind of scares me to think what would happen if a damn raccon were to jump out infront of the GN while I was doing a high speed pass. Hell even a squrrel.
Scary but I doubet it will keep me from doing it again
It kind of scares me to think what would happen if a damn raccon were to jump out infront of the GN while I was doing a high speed pass. Hell even a squrrel.
Scary but I doubet it will keep me from doing it again
justinsz8
04-04-2005, 11:34 AM
[QUOTE=Hypsi87]
It kind of scares me to think what would happen if a damn raccon were to jump out infront of the GN while I was doing a high speed pass. Hell even a squrrel.
I hit a possum doing about 130 on my bike, i thought that I was a dead man. it bounced right over him, and kept going. It didn't even kill the possum, after I cleaned out my pants I turned around and went back, he was gone, no where to be found. I've never been so lucky.
It kind of scares me to think what would happen if a damn raccon were to jump out infront of the GN while I was doing a high speed pass. Hell even a squrrel.
I hit a possum doing about 130 on my bike, i thought that I was a dead man. it bounced right over him, and kept going. It didn't even kill the possum, after I cleaned out my pants I turned around and went back, he was gone, no where to be found. I've never been so lucky.
Xenostalgia
04-04-2005, 12:11 PM
[QUOTE=Hypsi87]
It kind of scares me to think what would happen if a damn raccon were to jump out infront of the GN while I was doing a high speed pass. Hell even a squrrel.
I hit a possum doing about 130 on my bike, i thought that I was a dead man. it bounced right over him, and kept going. It didn't even kill the possum, after I cleaned out my pants I turned around and went back, he was gone, no where to be found. I've never been so lucky.
whts the fastest you've ever gone on you bike?
Safer your car is, safer you are. Cage, huge brakes, parachutes etc.
It kind of scares me to think what would happen if a damn raccon were to jump out infront of the GN while I was doing a high speed pass. Hell even a squrrel.
I hit a possum doing about 130 on my bike, i thought that I was a dead man. it bounced right over him, and kept going. It didn't even kill the possum, after I cleaned out my pants I turned around and went back, he was gone, no where to be found. I've never been so lucky.
whts the fastest you've ever gone on you bike?
Safer your car is, safer you are. Cage, huge brakes, parachutes etc.
tcfco2005
04-04-2005, 12:41 PM
are all those vehicles yourse justin. If so you are a lucky lucky man
justinsz8
04-04-2005, 12:47 PM
whts the fastest you've ever gone on you bike?
I've gone 185mph, once. It can do 170 just like that, 185 you have to get all tucked in, and give yourself about two to three mile stretch to get it up there.
I've gone 185mph, once. It can do 170 just like that, 185 you have to get all tucked in, and give yourself about two to three mile stretch to get it up there.
justinsz8
04-04-2005, 12:50 PM
are all those vehicles yourse justin. If so you are a lucky lucky man
Yep, they all were mine. the only ones that I have now is the red 96, and the bike. the 80 z28, i sold for a butt load of money(4 times what I had in it), and the white 91 had 213,000 miles on it, when i traded it in on the 96. i got $3600 dollars out of it, even with that many miles on it. i ended up only paying $2800 for my 96!!!
Yep, they all were mine. the only ones that I have now is the red 96, and the bike. the 80 z28, i sold for a butt load of money(4 times what I had in it), and the white 91 had 213,000 miles on it, when i traded it in on the 96. i got $3600 dollars out of it, even with that many miles on it. i ended up only paying $2800 for my 96!!!
Xenostalgia
04-04-2005, 12:51 PM
I've gone 185mph, once. It can do 170 just like that, 185 you have to get all tucked in, and give yourself about two to three mile stretch to get it up there.
O_o dude omg no... whats it like at 185? I went 106 before, then got a ticket. And like 2 miles to get up to 170?
O_o dude omg no... whats it like at 185? I went 106 before, then got a ticket. And like 2 miles to get up to 170?
justinsz8
04-04-2005, 01:04 PM
O_o dude omg no... whats it like at 185? I went 106 before, then got a ticket. And like 2 miles to get up to 170?
it's awesome, i went 200mph on a 2002 suzuki hayabusa, that was pretty wild. it is extremely loud going that fast, even with a helmet on. and there's really no way to tell what's in front of you, by the time your eyes and brain see it, you're already past it.
it's awesome, i went 200mph on a 2002 suzuki hayabusa, that was pretty wild. it is extremely loud going that fast, even with a helmet on. and there's really no way to tell what's in front of you, by the time your eyes and brain see it, you're already past it.
Xenostalgia
04-04-2005, 01:06 PM
Whoa.. Is it a blur or is it just so fast your brain can't register it?
justinsz8
04-04-2005, 01:12 PM
Whoa.. Is it a blur or is it just so fast your brain can't register it?
Kinda both, cause your head is vibrating from the air moving past it, then the speed on top of that. it makes it very difficult to see. i only did it once, just so i could say that i've gone 200mph. i'll probably never do it again.
Kinda both, cause your head is vibrating from the air moving past it, then the speed on top of that. it makes it very difficult to see. i only did it once, just so i could say that i've gone 200mph. i'll probably never do it again.
Xenostalgia
04-04-2005, 01:48 PM
i'll probably never do it again.
Probably wisest thing that has ever been said on the forums.
Probably wisest thing that has ever been said on the forums.
cooltc2004
04-04-2005, 02:17 PM
all oyu guys get all these races and get to go 150+ mph. I go onto the street, and noone wants to race (simply i look over and they arent paying attention, or they are old). I here all my friends talk about all these races they've had. What am I doing wrong D:
drumcat
04-04-2005, 03:06 PM
Recently there were 2 ricers racing in my area doing 140+ well they both crashed and killed 5 people, and on TOP of that they were both drunk.
Speed kills, how fast do you want to go?
Speed kills, how fast do you want to go?
Link85x
04-04-2005, 03:57 PM
all oyu guys get all these races and get to go 150+ mph. I go onto the street, and noone wants to race (simply i look over and they arent paying attention, or they are old). I here all my friends talk about all these races they've had. What am I doing wrong D:
Don't feel bad, i'm also tryin to figure out what i'm doing wrong.
Don't feel bad, i'm also tryin to figure out what i'm doing wrong.
Link85x
04-04-2005, 04:02 PM
Recently there were 2 ricers racing in my area doing 140+ well they both crashed and killed 5 people, and on TOP of that they were both drunk.
Speed kills, how fast do you want to go?
An incident like that happened where i live several months ago. 2 99-04 Mustangs were racing on the highway which was wet btw, one of the drivers was drunk, and they were doing 120+. The drunk crashed and died, I also think he had a passenger aswell. Should of seen that Mustang though. It hit a tree, and it was real bad. The rearend was near the passenger side door. Car was completely totalled. Don't dunk and drive.
Speed kills, how fast do you want to go?
An incident like that happened where i live several months ago. 2 99-04 Mustangs were racing on the highway which was wet btw, one of the drivers was drunk, and they were doing 120+. The drunk crashed and died, I also think he had a passenger aswell. Should of seen that Mustang though. It hit a tree, and it was real bad. The rearend was near the passenger side door. Car was completely totalled. Don't dunk and drive.
Xenostalgia
04-04-2005, 04:24 PM
Don't dunk and drive.
:icon16: :screwy:
:icon16: :screwy:
philly rs
04-04-2005, 06:03 PM
i guess if u cant get people to race u all u have to do is get some rs badges for your car,because the damn fools around here dont stop trying to race me. ive been racing when i didnt even know i was lol.
nlghtcrawler
04-05-2005, 12:22 AM
i need to balance my tires b4 i do 150:icon16:
it vibrates a lot, made my antana come out of my radio... dammit:banghead:
it vibrates a lot, made my antana come out of my radio... dammit:banghead:
Genopsyde
04-05-2005, 01:12 AM
Cheap ass radio :D
Bad Bow Tie
04-05-2005, 03:39 AM
ok dude, i gove in that speed 150 to 150+ it it actully felt smooth, like if i wasnt drivin, more like flyin low. i did it on a freeway when it was stright for about a few milles. the only reason i did it cause i was spanking a civic, and a m3 that we past a while back chought up and past us............it was hella fun tho!
Bad Bow Tie
04-05-2005, 03:40 AM
and if your wondering, i dive a 99 Z/28 LS-1 too
Savage Messiah
04-05-2005, 08:29 AM
Don't dunk and type.
Link85x
04-05-2005, 08:33 AM
Don't dunk and type.
You've gotta a good point.
You've gotta a good point.
lickem
04-05-2005, 10:42 AM
lol i never said anything about outrunning the cops that was a joke, and yes dunking and typing is very bad, i was just saying my car feels very smooth at 150+ and the point of this thread was just to see how mechanically sound my car is at those speeds
Xenostalgia
04-05-2005, 10:49 AM
what rpms are you at with +150mph and 4.10s?
viacin
04-05-2005, 07:28 PM
It kind of scares me to think what would happen if a damn raccon were to jump out infront of the GN while I was doing a high speed pass. Hell even a squrrel.
I was going 205+ down a road one day in my camaro, dog steped out in front of me....Needless to say, i'm trying to find me a new camaro now (looking for a 69 ss). Dog did manage to live though untill the cops could get to the accident to put him out of his misery (it took off his back legs and most of his nose.) After my 6th or 7th roll, and the 200 yard slid on the roof, and two weeks in the hospital, im ready for another project :D
I was going 205+ down a road one day in my camaro, dog steped out in front of me....Needless to say, i'm trying to find me a new camaro now (looking for a 69 ss). Dog did manage to live though untill the cops could get to the accident to put him out of his misery (it took off his back legs and most of his nose.) After my 6th or 7th roll, and the 200 yard slid on the roof, and two weeks in the hospital, im ready for another project :D
Savage Messiah
04-06-2005, 01:48 AM
205?!?!?!
Hypsi87
04-06-2005, 07:56 AM
It kind of scares me to think what would happen if a damn raccon were to jump out infront of the GN while I was doing a high speed pass. Hell even a squrrel.
I was going 205+ down a road one day in my camaro, dog steped out in front of me....Needless to say, i'm trying to find me a new camaro now (looking for a 69 ss). Dog did manage to live though untill the cops could get to the accident to put him out of his misery (it took off his back legs and most of his nose.) After my 6th or 7th roll, and the 200 yard slid on the roof, and two weeks in the hospital, im ready for another project :D
205????
serouisly, you may have been haulin ass but 205????
What engine, tranny and gear did that car have in it.
I was going 205+ down a road one day in my camaro, dog steped out in front of me....Needless to say, i'm trying to find me a new camaro now (looking for a 69 ss). Dog did manage to live though untill the cops could get to the accident to put him out of his misery (it took off his back legs and most of his nose.) After my 6th or 7th roll, and the 200 yard slid on the roof, and two weeks in the hospital, im ready for another project :D
205????
serouisly, you may have been haulin ass but 205????
What engine, tranny and gear did that car have in it.
LT1MAN
04-06-2005, 09:56 AM
It kind of scares me to think what would happen if a damn raccon were to jump out infront of the GN while I was doing a high speed pass. Hell even a squrrel.
I was going 205+ down a road one day in my camaro, dog steped out in front of me....Needless to say, i'm trying to find me a new camaro now (looking for a 69 ss). Dog did manage to live though untill the cops could get to the accident to put him out of his misery (it took off his back legs and most of his nose.) After my 6th or 7th roll, and the 200 yard slid on the roof, and two weeks in the hospital, im ready for another project :D
yer wun lucky sum bich!!! cant believe you're alive-seriously.
now lets watch everyone say he's lying.
I was going 205+ down a road one day in my camaro, dog steped out in front of me....Needless to say, i'm trying to find me a new camaro now (looking for a 69 ss). Dog did manage to live though untill the cops could get to the accident to put him out of his misery (it took off his back legs and most of his nose.) After my 6th or 7th roll, and the 200 yard slid on the roof, and two weeks in the hospital, im ready for another project :D
yer wun lucky sum bich!!! cant believe you're alive-seriously.
now lets watch everyone say he's lying.
lickem
04-06-2005, 10:21 AM
It kind of scares me to think what would happen if a damn raccon were to jump out infront of the GN while I was doing a high speed pass. Hell even a squrrel.
I was going 205+ down a road one day in my camaro, dog steped out in front of me....Needless to say, i'm trying to find me a new camaro now (looking for a 69 ss). Dog did manage to live though untill the cops could get to the accident to put him out of his misery (it took off his back legs and most of his nose.) After my 6th or 7th roll, and the 200 yard slid on the roof, and two weeks in the hospital, im ready for another project :D
205 Camaro holy shit
And for the guy who asked about my rpms. somewhere around 4600-4900 im not to sure its kinda scary to take my eyes off the road long enough to read the tach accurately
I was going 205+ down a road one day in my camaro, dog steped out in front of me....Needless to say, i'm trying to find me a new camaro now (looking for a 69 ss). Dog did manage to live though untill the cops could get to the accident to put him out of his misery (it took off his back legs and most of his nose.) After my 6th or 7th roll, and the 200 yard slid on the roof, and two weeks in the hospital, im ready for another project :D
205 Camaro holy shit
And for the guy who asked about my rpms. somewhere around 4600-4900 im not to sure its kinda scary to take my eyes off the road long enough to read the tach accurately
cooltc2004
04-06-2005, 10:21 AM
First to answer another question: With 4.10 gears, you would be in very high RPMs to be going 150, because those are ACCELERATION gears, perfect for drag racing.
Now, about 205, its not that far fetched. If you put, say, 2.07 (I think thats the gear) you could probably hit 225+, it will just take you a year and a day to get up there. Its all in the gearing boys, its all in the gearing.
Now, about 205, its not that far fetched. If you put, say, 2.07 (I think thats the gear) you could probably hit 225+, it will just take you a year and a day to get up there. Its all in the gearing boys, its all in the gearing.
lickem
04-06-2005, 10:25 AM
A factory geared ls1 with 3.42s could hit 236 if it had the power
edit ^6speed manual
edit ^6speed manual
cooltc2004
04-06-2005, 10:35 AM
I dont believe that, I'm sorry. I think it'd max around 180-190, course I have no first hand experience on a LS-1 w/ 6-speed, so its very possible that im wrong.
lickem
04-06-2005, 10:41 AM
lamehonda
04-06-2005, 10:50 AM
There is a point at which this car will hit a brick wall due to drag limitations. I doubt you will have any control over the steering of the car at speeds over 190.
Hypsi87
04-06-2005, 11:18 AM
There is a point at which this car will hit a brick wall due to drag limitations. I doubt you will have any control over the steering of the car at speeds over 190.
Exactly, air drag is the limiting factor.
and 320 horse is not enough to get there.
Hell 205 is quite impressve for cars that go to the bonniville salt flats.
I will have to do the calculating later I am in class but I am pretty sure you would need about 600+ HP to do it with TALL gears.
You can't just put a set of 2.00 something gears in a stock car and expect it to be able to run HIGH speed. Honestly, if you reduced the mechanical advatage that much, the engine would never be able to get into it's powerband in high gear, after 3rd gear, the engine would not be able to overcome the load.
Exactly, air drag is the limiting factor.
and 320 horse is not enough to get there.
Hell 205 is quite impressve for cars that go to the bonniville salt flats.
I will have to do the calculating later I am in class but I am pretty sure you would need about 600+ HP to do it with TALL gears.
You can't just put a set of 2.00 something gears in a stock car and expect it to be able to run HIGH speed. Honestly, if you reduced the mechanical advatage that much, the engine would never be able to get into it's powerband in high gear, after 3rd gear, the engine would not be able to overcome the load.
Genopsyde
04-06-2005, 11:33 AM
maybe he means 205 kmph
Hypsi87
04-06-2005, 11:38 AM
maybe he means 205 kmph
Well that would be 127 MPH.....
Well I hope that is what he is talking about.
Geno, you so smart, I would of never of thought of that.
EDIT: Well, after seeing that he is from Alabama.... I don't think he was using the metric system :cwm27:
Well that would be 127 MPH.....
Well I hope that is what he is talking about.
Geno, you so smart, I would of never of thought of that.
EDIT: Well, after seeing that he is from Alabama.... I don't think he was using the metric system :cwm27:
Genopsyde
04-06-2005, 11:44 AM
I can't believe he did that to that poor dog too.
Hypsi87
04-06-2005, 11:47 AM
I can't believe he did that to that poor dog too.
what a horrible thing to do...
I am suprised the cops are going to let you use another project, Usually if people live through stuff like that ( If it even happend) end up in Jail after recovery
what a horrible thing to do...
I am suprised the cops are going to let you use another project, Usually if people live through stuff like that ( If it even happend) end up in Jail after recovery
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