Problems installing Ground Controls! Pics inside!!
LX98Civic
03-30-2002, 07:33 PM
Today I tried installing the Ground Controls on my 98 civic and had no luck.
I did get the skunk2 camber kit in within an hour, but after spending 4 hours on the drivers / front side with the GC's I gave up!
Below are pics of during the install and the problem I am having. I am starting to think that I was sent the wrong adapters. The shocks in the picture are Bilstein HD's and the GC's I ordered are suppose to be for the HD's. Take a look:
Let's get the first pic out the way. That is installed upside down? I'm 99.9999% it is. Just had to take a pic since I tried every possible way to install the GC's....
http://a4.cpimg.com/image/2E/12/9293614-1038-028001E0-.jpg
In the next picture I have the GC sleeve angled so you can see the adapter at the bottom. It's about 1/2" thick and will not slide pass the gold piece on the Bilstein's where the metal pipe stops.
http://a5.cpimg.com/image/25/11/9293605-974d-028001E0-.jpg
Here is a top shot of that 1/2" thick ring I am talking about in the pic above:
http://a6.cpimg.com/image/26/11/9293606-95af-028001E0-.jpg
Ok, in this next picture you can see just how the 1/2" adapter that is marked in green can only go that far down. But, I believe the adapter should slide down to where the blue arrow is on the Bilstein shock.
You can actually see in the instructions underneath the shock how the arrow is pointing to the shock all the way down to that little rest spot on the shock....
http://a2.cpimg.com/image/2C/11/9293612-894f-01E00280-.jpg
Below is a closer pic to show exactly how the GC was sitting. When some weight from the car was let onto the GC's that 1/2" piece popped right out and the spring was loose....
http://a2.cpimg.com/image/22/11/9293602-9ae6-028001E0-.jpg
I did manage to get the skunk2 camber kit installed on both sides though:
http://a3.cpimg.com/image/F5/18/9293813-1fa6-028001E0-.jpg
http://a5.cpimg.com/image/F7/18/9293815-8f22-028001E0-.jpg
This next pic is from the passengers side. I didn't even bother with the springs or shocks on this side, since I had all the problems on the drivers side...
http://a7.cpimg.com/image/F9/18/9293817-261c-028001E0-.jpg
Thanks for any input on this!!
I did get the skunk2 camber kit in within an hour, but after spending 4 hours on the drivers / front side with the GC's I gave up!
Below are pics of during the install and the problem I am having. I am starting to think that I was sent the wrong adapters. The shocks in the picture are Bilstein HD's and the GC's I ordered are suppose to be for the HD's. Take a look:
Let's get the first pic out the way. That is installed upside down? I'm 99.9999% it is. Just had to take a pic since I tried every possible way to install the GC's....
http://a4.cpimg.com/image/2E/12/9293614-1038-028001E0-.jpg
In the next picture I have the GC sleeve angled so you can see the adapter at the bottom. It's about 1/2" thick and will not slide pass the gold piece on the Bilstein's where the metal pipe stops.
http://a5.cpimg.com/image/25/11/9293605-974d-028001E0-.jpg
Here is a top shot of that 1/2" thick ring I am talking about in the pic above:
http://a6.cpimg.com/image/26/11/9293606-95af-028001E0-.jpg
Ok, in this next picture you can see just how the 1/2" adapter that is marked in green can only go that far down. But, I believe the adapter should slide down to where the blue arrow is on the Bilstein shock.
You can actually see in the instructions underneath the shock how the arrow is pointing to the shock all the way down to that little rest spot on the shock....
http://a2.cpimg.com/image/2C/11/9293612-894f-01E00280-.jpg
Below is a closer pic to show exactly how the GC was sitting. When some weight from the car was let onto the GC's that 1/2" piece popped right out and the spring was loose....
http://a2.cpimg.com/image/22/11/9293602-9ae6-028001E0-.jpg
I did manage to get the skunk2 camber kit installed on both sides though:
http://a3.cpimg.com/image/F5/18/9293813-1fa6-028001E0-.jpg
http://a5.cpimg.com/image/F7/18/9293815-8f22-028001E0-.jpg
This next pic is from the passengers side. I didn't even bother with the springs or shocks on this side, since I had all the problems on the drivers side...
http://a7.cpimg.com/image/F9/18/9293817-261c-028001E0-.jpg
Thanks for any input on this!!
90CRXZCSi
03-31-2002, 11:53 PM
that's only how far it's supposed to go down on the shock. I have mine installed the same way you were saying it was upside down and mine rides fine so i dont know...if it is wrong then i dont know and i guess i should reverse it. Sorry....i dont know if i was much help.:(
LX98Civic
04-01-2002, 10:10 AM
Originally posted by 90CRXZCSi
that's only how far it's supposed to go down on the shock. I have mine installed the same way you were saying it was upside down and mine rides fine so i dont know...if it is wrong then i dont know and i guess i should reverse it. Sorry....i dont know if i was much help.:(
Actually, that is the right way in the pic that I say "upside down?". IT's just that it's suppose to sit at the bottom of the shock. Someone photoshopped a pic to show how it is suppose to fit....
See, that is how and where it's suppose to sit:
http://www.hondavision.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=86224
that's only how far it's supposed to go down on the shock. I have mine installed the same way you were saying it was upside down and mine rides fine so i dont know...if it is wrong then i dont know and i guess i should reverse it. Sorry....i dont know if i was much help.:(
Actually, that is the right way in the pic that I say "upside down?". IT's just that it's suppose to sit at the bottom of the shock. Someone photoshopped a pic to show how it is suppose to fit....
See, that is how and where it's suppose to sit:
http://www.hondavision.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=86224
justanothermike
04-02-2002, 05:12 AM
i've heard that bilsteins don't work with coilover sleavs. it looks to me like the shock bodies are to FAT!! hows the ride height with the perch all the way at the bottom? its probably at the same setting when the perch is at the top of the sleave on a properly installed sleave.
LX98Civic
04-02-2002, 04:44 PM
Originally posted by justanothermike
i've heard that bilsteins don't work with coilover sleavs. it looks to me like the shock bodies are to FAT!! hows the ride height with the perch all the way at the bottom? its probably at the same setting when the perch is at the top of the sleave on a properly installed sleave.
THe HD's are self sadjusting so there is no perch to adjust. The guys at GC said I have the wrong adapters :rolleyes: The new ones should be here tomm :o
i've heard that bilsteins don't work with coilover sleavs. it looks to me like the shock bodies are to FAT!! hows the ride height with the perch all the way at the bottom? its probably at the same setting when the perch is at the top of the sleave on a properly installed sleave.
THe HD's are self sadjusting so there is no perch to adjust. The guys at GC said I have the wrong adapters :rolleyes: The new ones should be here tomm :o
CivicSiRacer
04-03-2002, 08:40 AM
DOH! I was going to say from the first picture that is sitting too high :)
LX98Civic
04-03-2002, 03:50 PM
Originally posted by CivicSiRacer
DOH! I was going to say from the first picture that is sitting too high :)
....and the new adapters just arrived ;)
DOH! I was going to say from the first picture that is sitting too high :)
....and the new adapters just arrived ;)
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