Pioneers

I found this webpagee:

Circuit City Car Speakers-Pioneer (http://r5.us.rmi.yahoo.com/rmi/http://www.circuitcity.com/ewebIMa/frame1.jsp/rmivars%3ftarget%3D_top?BV_SessionID=@@@@035809494 9.1017460007@@@@&BV_EngineID=cceladcekhdgjghcfngcfkmdffhdffg.0&upper=head.jsp&lower=frame2.jsp&left=leftchildcat.jsp&department=Car+Audio+and+Security&category=Car+Speakers&right=productsearch.jsp)
oops, this won't take you to them. You need to scroll down to near the bottom, they are the $47 or so Pioneers, blue.

they seem like decent speakers for the price. What's y'alls opinion?

OK, you need more detail. I have a Sony cassette head unit, and am getting a Sony Xplod 10 CD changer. The head unit is a 45W x 4. I need to know if these speakers will pretty much handle the power my Sony stereo puts out? And is the bass gonna not fart out on me? Will it hold the deep booming bass that the bass boost on my Stereo puts out?

Ok, maybe that was too much detail :) Any questions you can answer is great.

Thanks, and peace!

your headunit will only put out a true 20x4 or so. no headunit is ever going to put out that much power, at least not til the next few years:p those pioneers will handle the power fine. i believe they take it 20watts ( i didn't really look at the specs) pioneers are very good replacement speakers. i have them and i love them.

i also think that pioneer speakers are great, i have a set of 5 1/4" coaxials up front and love them. however, i would recommend you stay away from pioneer subwoofers. i have a pioneer 12, not the premeir, and i have a kenwood amp that is running at 300x1 rms bridged and 600 max, which are the exact numbers that the pioneer should be able to handle, but without even turning my gain up and just having my low pass crossover on, i have messed up the surround in 6 months.

Originally posted by GScivic7
i also think that pioneer speakers are great, i have a set of 5 1/4" coaxials up front and love them. however, i would recommend you stay away from pioneer subwoofers. i have a pioneer 12, not the premeir, and i have a kenwood amp that is running at 300x1 rms bridged and 600 max, which are the exact numbers that the pioneer should be able to handle, but without even turning my gain up and just having my low pass crossover on, i have messed up the surround in 6 months.

maybe you had bad luck with it? i have pioneer subs that work fine even with the gains halfway. is the pioneer broken-in properly? is the bass boost on the amp on?

I cant get the link to work...what it the model # for the speakers, I may be able to get them for less....

Originally posted by nittanys1
I cant get the link to work...what it the model # for the speakers, I may be able to get them for less.... Ditto

sorry about the link, I forgot it was a timed session.

Here's the info:

Pioneer 6.5in. 2-Way Car Speaker
Brand/Model: PIO TSG1647
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36-Month Warranty for PIONEER TSG1647 $19.99
$47.49
Customer Ratings and Reviews Avg
Sound Quality 3.5
Design 3.5
Crankability 3.3
Cost / Benefit 3.5
Overall 3.5
Whether you spend 5 minutes in your car or 5 hours, a good set of speakers can make all the difference in the world. These 6 ½ speakers from Pioneer bring excellent sound into your car with IMPP woofer for outstanding bass and ceramic dome tweeter for detailed highs. And with 150 watts peak power handling, they can work well with both factory radios and after-market, high-powered receivers.


Product Specs Specification
Pioneer 6.5in. 2-Way Car Speaker
Warranty:Months
Labor/Parts 12/12
Speaker Size 6 ½"
Speaker Type 2-Way
Top Mount Height (inches) ½
Top Mount Depth (inches) 1 5/8
Bottom Mount Tweeter Protrudes (inches) Unavailable
Bottom Mount Depth (inches) Unavailable
Woofer Cone Material Injection Molded Polypropylene (IMPP) Rigilite Composite
Woofer Surround Material Butyl Rubber
Tweeter Design Ceramic
Directional Tweeter NO
Midrange Design N/A
Grills Included?
Cut Out Size 5 Inches
Sensitivity (dB) 92
Frequency Response (Hz) 35Hz-22kHz
Recommended Amp Wattage Range 2-30
Peak Power Handling (Watts) 150
Accessories Dynamat™ Speaker Kit & Monster Cable® Premium Speaker Wire Brings Out the Best from your New Speakers!
Installation Notice: All Car Speakers Priced As A Pair. Price does not include installation. Please contact your nearest Roadshop for installation pricing specific to your vehicle.
Other Features Conex Damper, Ferrite Magnet, Shallow Basket



Thanks for your help. I chose Circuit City cuz its right by my house and i can get them installed there for cheap. Do you think I could instal them myself? I don't have much wiring experience. I drive a '95 civic EX coupe. Once again, thanks for y'all's help. :)

yo, first off don't get the warranty and also sparq will try to hook u up (unless he rips you off haha )
I had pioneer speakers before, they are quite muddy for my ears, but they play good bass. Just don't expect deep tones to come out.

Originally posted by igo4bmx
yo, first off don't get the warranty and also sparq will try to hook u up (unless he rips you off haha )
I had pioneer speakers before, they are quite muddy for my ears, but they play good bass. Just don't expect deep tones to come out.

yeah, extended warrenties are ripoffs.

And wha'chu mean "don't expect deep tones to come out?" I know its not a sub, but are you...I mean.... Damnit it sounds like you are contradicting yourself!

Alright, here's a clear question: If I have my radio on, and Ja Rule starts playing, and my volume is up at say, half power, bass full, will it sound clean and rich? Will the windows rattle? will my pant legs vibrate?

There, that will pretty much tell me whether they are good or not!:D

also, if sparq can hook me up then I'm all for it!!!

Ahhh poop on you Darkwing -- I only get the TSG1645... basically the same damn thing though :o :(

Originally posted by Darkwing



Do you think I could instal them myself? I don't have much wiring experience. I drive a '95 civic EX coupe. Once again, thanks for y'all's help. :)

save yourself on installation. typical speaker install at stores will run you about $15-$30. install it by yourself is better. its as easy as positive to positive and negative to negative. in addition to that, you get to install it (it's fun:p ) and not have to worry about them messing up your car.

here is a little story about my neighbor's experience with the installation of a local shop. well my neighbor wanted to replace his factory rear speakers with something better. he went to the local store and bought a 3-way 6"x9"(don't know brand). like most newbie, he does not know how to install it and doesn't have the time (at least he doesn't think he has). so then he had the local store install the speakers for him. when he came back to get the car, he turned on his deck to listen to it. 5 seconds after he had just turned it on, his clarion headunit got fried (according to the installer). then he had to get that replaced. they sold him a new alpine deck. they installed it because my neighbor doesn't know how. when they finished installing the deck, the front components went out. instead of buying new ones from the store, he just went home with his rear deck playing:p he later found out the pattern. for everything they install, something else gets messed up. for everything that gets messed up, he has to buy a new one. for every stuff that he buys, they have to install it. and everything repeats.

cliffnote: neighbor bought speakers, installer installed it, something else gets messed up, neighbor has to buy new ones, installer installed new stuff, something else get messed up. everything starts all over.


i'm not saying all installers are bad. just that when someone installs something for themselves, they usually feel more secure doing that. i dunno, maybe i don't like local stores?:confused:

Originally posted by GSteg
i'm not saying all installers are bad. just that when someone installs something for themselves, they usually feel more secure doing that. i dunno, maybe i don't like local stores?:confused: Maybe... I would never do that, that seems rather criminal, BUT it can happen -- the new deck could have shot too much power the the speakers, and blown the fronts. Sometimes weird crap like that does happen -- but thats sounds too fishy to me.

Originally posted by sparq
Maybe... I would never do that, that seems rather criminal, BUT it can happen -- the new deck could have shot too much power the the speakers, and blown the fronts. Sometimes weird crap like that does happen -- but thats sounds too fishy to me.

sparq, a question for you:
how come my radio doesn't work after you installed it???? J/K

darkwing, it plays certain midbass frequencies well, but don't expect those low freq (like 50hx and below) to sound good loud.

Originally posted by sparq
Maybe... I would never do that, that seems rather criminal, BUT it can happen -- the new deck could have shot too much power the the speakers, and blown the fronts. Sometimes weird crap like that does happen -- but thats sounds too fishy to me.

i guess it should have shot too much power. but is 18x4 too much for a set of CDT audio components to handle:confused: :D

Originally posted by sparq
Ahhh poop on you Darkwing -- I only get the TSG1645... basically the same damn thing though :o :(

hey, point me to some pics and some info, I'm open for suggestions, not completely sold on those EXACT ones anyway. Oh yes, CHEAPER IS BETTER!! (as long as the quality is the same :D)

lol, I just liked those Pioneers because they seemed like pretty good quality for the price. You show me some speakers of the same quality or better for cheaper, and I'll more thn likely snag 'em. (BTW- my headunit is a SONY, dunno if that makes a difference...)

Those TSG-1647's are pretty decent. The old TSA 1655's were a little better though. Either way.. for 47 bucks.. it's not bad. But for a couple extra bucks.. why dont you try the Polk Audio GXR6's ? Better overall sound...

Plus.. buy the warranty!! it's goooooooooooooooood!!

- PS - I'm not a CC employee!! :D

if you can modify your 6.5" opening to a full 7", i would recommend the Crystal CXe 610 2-way speaker. it's such a good deal on sounddomain right now. it's just a few bucks more than the pioneers, but you'll love them more. you get an outboard crossover to direct the frequency to the right driver, you get a bigger midrange cone to deliever that missing midbass from ordinary speakers, you get a more power handling voicecoil, and you get crystal sound quality:) i would get this, if just gotta make it fit the 6.5 opening:cool:

http://www.sounddomain.com/sku/CRYCXE610

Originally posted by GSteg


maybe you had bad luck with it? i have pioneer subs that work fine even with the gains halfway. is the pioneer broken-in properly? is the bass boost on the amp on?

my amp doesn't even have bass boost, and i played it at low volume for about a month, i figured it would be pretty close to the 20 hours that your supposed to break them in cuz i got a long trip to school, and i just drive a freakin lot at least an hour a day, so that totals to like 30 hours. i did like it for aslong as it worked going with audiobahn now though