Fun to Idle at 200 then Die? NOPE!!!!
GSXracerGuy
03-25-2005, 01:06 PM
Alright, I have a 95 GSX. All that's done to it now is an aftermarket BOMZ air intake.
I live in Michigan, and right now, it is cold in Michigan. When I start my car in the morning for school I like to let it warm up first. Today I started it and 10 minutes later I go back out to leave and the engine..isn't running... so I freak out. I Start it again and it goes for about 25 seconds at 1200 RPMS then DROPS fast to about 200-400 RPMS and just fluctuates...and hits 50 RPMS and dies.
I got it running and after it was warm (the engine) it idled smoothly at 550 RPMs.
After school I start the car....bogs like crap... I sit there waiting for the engine to become stable not knowing what the heck it could be...(nothing is loose in the engine...vaccums etc). SO anyway...when it's boging really badly...the rpms don't go up very easily...I have to floor it for about 3 seconds to get the rpms to go up and then after they go up they rise normally. But if the car still isn't "warmed up" then the car just boggs ugly and I just drive it so it will warm up.
The sound I hear when i put the gas down to get it revving again....and when it's at a low RPM bogging.. it's like... "chirp..pa chirp...chirp...pa pa chirp..VROOOOOMMMM ...PSHHOWWWWwwwww"........it's really just like a chirp. So has anyone experienced this??? The car seems to be having problems...I made a post about a grinding noise when downshifting and slowing but sometimes it sounds 100% from the muffler...and other times transmission....I don't know what to do I need to much help and advice it's rediculous... help me out!!! Thanks
I live in Michigan, and right now, it is cold in Michigan. When I start my car in the morning for school I like to let it warm up first. Today I started it and 10 minutes later I go back out to leave and the engine..isn't running... so I freak out. I Start it again and it goes for about 25 seconds at 1200 RPMS then DROPS fast to about 200-400 RPMS and just fluctuates...and hits 50 RPMS and dies.
I got it running and after it was warm (the engine) it idled smoothly at 550 RPMs.
After school I start the car....bogs like crap... I sit there waiting for the engine to become stable not knowing what the heck it could be...(nothing is loose in the engine...vaccums etc). SO anyway...when it's boging really badly...the rpms don't go up very easily...I have to floor it for about 3 seconds to get the rpms to go up and then after they go up they rise normally. But if the car still isn't "warmed up" then the car just boggs ugly and I just drive it so it will warm up.
The sound I hear when i put the gas down to get it revving again....and when it's at a low RPM bogging.. it's like... "chirp..pa chirp...chirp...pa pa chirp..VROOOOOMMMM ...PSHHOWWWWwwwww"........it's really just like a chirp. So has anyone experienced this??? The car seems to be having problems...I made a post about a grinding noise when downshifting and slowing but sometimes it sounds 100% from the muffler...and other times transmission....I don't know what to do I need to much help and advice it's rediculous... help me out!!! Thanks
viet_boiiiii
03-25-2005, 02:09 PM
When u installed the Bomz Intake did u put the rubber hose back into the intake? That rubber hose runs from the bov to the intake to give air right back into the turbo. All of the descriptions u gave me leads to a vented bov. What blow off valve do you have because the stock bov (even 1g's) dont make a psshht sound during idel unless u go all the way to 5-6k. You described a Psshhhoow sound which describes the sound of a vented blow off valve. Just put the hose back on and you'l be fine.
GSXracerGuy
03-25-2005, 04:04 PM
yea when I rev it up to keep it from stallin i do one to about 4500 RPMs and the BOV makes a loud pshhhhhoo sound...it's the stock one lol....but it's loud...and sounds sweet as hell...none of my friends understand why..... I have the tube on there...but what it is is a tube I got from auto stone...just a rubber pipe with bunps or whatever on it and i put duct tape around the parts that oulwd leak (shhhhh i know...but recirculation kit?? where the heck do i find that???) ummm....I have also tried puting it completely over the BOV outlet and over the intake with a little space for ventilation....car doesnt lag when its like that at all....its all the time power....
I don't get this car...it's as fast as my friends GST and he has a crap load of stuff done to it.. I have nothing...except the air intake..
But when I'm driving and accelerate...the turbo spool is very very loud...sounds nice...and BOV is louder...it's seriouslty like PPHSHSHSSSSSHOOSSSSSSSSSSSSS" not like the TSSEUOOOO like the aftemraket but just more smooth..and longer..or when I accelerate and don't put the cluch down and let off the car slowly...its like "psssssttteeeuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu"
I'm so confused... I just dont get why it does this when it's not warmed up....its hard to even rev it if its not warmed up.....I don't get it...it didn't do this a few days ago and I just got it back from the garage and the check engine light came on even....
But I do have that tube on there well....in fact I'm gonna go take some pics....how do I put them on here??
I don't get this car...it's as fast as my friends GST and he has a crap load of stuff done to it.. I have nothing...except the air intake..
But when I'm driving and accelerate...the turbo spool is very very loud...sounds nice...and BOV is louder...it's seriouslty like PPHSHSHSSSSSHOOSSSSSSSSSSSSS" not like the TSSEUOOOO like the aftemraket but just more smooth..and longer..or when I accelerate and don't put the cluch down and let off the car slowly...its like "psssssttteeeuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu"
I'm so confused... I just dont get why it does this when it's not warmed up....its hard to even rev it if its not warmed up.....I don't get it...it didn't do this a few days ago and I just got it back from the garage and the check engine light came on even....
But I do have that tube on there well....in fact I'm gonna go take some pics....how do I put them on here??
GSXracerGuy
03-25-2005, 04:28 PM
I forgot...the intake system was stolen out of it once I got it (no it had everything in the original picture)..so the intake system did not come with a tube to go on the BOV back into the intake...I don't know where to fine them..
viet_boiiiii
03-25-2005, 04:58 PM
www.Photobucket.com or www.uploadit.org and give them your picture. It then will be a saved file that u can access threw the internet. You put that link link and it will show up. Does your engine look like my engine? just look at the picture below my post.
96spyderman
03-25-2005, 09:58 PM
does it look close to mine as well.......
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/412000-412999/412186_56.jpg
Basically the same as above's post.....
The symptoms... kinda sound close to when my idle speed motor was all fudged with carbon-e crap.... had really low idle when it warmed up....
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/412000-412999/412186_56.jpg
Basically the same as above's post.....
The symptoms... kinda sound close to when my idle speed motor was all fudged with carbon-e crap.... had really low idle when it warmed up....
GSXracerGuy
03-26-2005, 06:19 PM
Of course it looks the "same"....but just not as doozied up...I don't have any money yet and I'm going insane.. The only thing that's different mine than yall's is that instead of a nice shiny tube and clamps...im using an ugly...some hose thing and duct tape...I'm trying to get these stupid sites to work but they are making me mad...plus the computer I'm on wont let me transfer the pics of my cam as jpgs.....hm...ill figure something out..
OK I put the pictures on my xanga site for now...I couldnt get them to go on their any bigger..I am gonig to try to do it at school but you can see everything I think. Here is the site http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=gsxracerguy95
what's the carbon-e thing you were talkin about?
OK I put the pictures on my xanga site for now...I couldnt get them to go on their any bigger..I am gonig to try to do it at school but you can see everything I think. Here is the site http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=gsxracerguy95
what's the carbon-e thing you were talkin about?
96spyderman
03-26-2005, 08:32 PM
carbon-e.... I had oil getting from that tube on the side of the valve cover making its way all the way up to the throttle body... it then got into the idle speed motor area and sludged it up so it wouldn't idle very well (low) at stopsigns and redlights and such...
I went to mitsu dealership and they cleaned it up for me... this is before I knew of AF.com!!! damn!
Duct tape man? lol can't you use hose clamps?
Call around to some junk yards and ask if they have any eagle talon/plymouth lazer/mitsu eclipse turbo models and get some "good" parts off of them to replace yours!!!!!! you could even try www.dsmtrader.com
I went to mitsu dealership and they cleaned it up for me... this is before I knew of AF.com!!! damn!
Duct tape man? lol can't you use hose clamps?
Call around to some junk yards and ask if they have any eagle talon/plymouth lazer/mitsu eclipse turbo models and get some "good" parts off of them to replace yours!!!!!! you could even try www.dsmtrader.com
GSXracerGuy
03-27-2005, 01:27 PM
Geez...I just read that and went out and looked to my car...theres dried/gulpy oil all over the side/bottom of the engine thing....(block?) I don't know the name....but yea all alone the side it's a lot....so I am guessing that it's getting into the throttle body.........Because when I accelerate and put teh clutch in andhold it in 1st 2nd or 3rd gear....if i put the clutch down and hold it after i accelarated...the RPM's drop and the car stalls....so I am assuming it's because of the oil....I will get it cleaned out tomorrow.. I love this site
**I can't believe I didn't notive it before...it just looked like the color of the components...and then i scraped some off with the key....wow
thanks a lot..I'm sure I'll have a new problem in 2 days.. Hopefully my car is good enough to make it to atlanta and back for spring break,.
**I can't believe I didn't notive it before...it just looked like the color of the components...and then i scraped some off with the key....wow
thanks a lot..I'm sure I'll have a new problem in 2 days.. Hopefully my car is good enough to make it to atlanta and back for spring break,.
96spyderman
03-27-2005, 09:19 PM
No dude... i'm talkin about oil INSIDE the intake... Take the elbow pipe off of the throttle body and look to see if there is oil inside... look at the throttle plate.. does it have crap on it?
I wouldn't suggest drivin to atlanta!!! thats a "at your own risk" especially after reading about ALL the problems you are having!!! jeeeeez
I wouldn't suggest drivin to atlanta!!! thats a "at your own risk" especially after reading about ALL the problems you are having!!! jeeeeez
GSXracerGuy
03-28-2005, 06:33 AM
Oh...I feel dumb now.. Ok I took all that off yesterday to redo it because the garage did everything half a** (I'm going back today to get my money back)..but inside there it's clean as a whistle...even on the inside of the turbo..
I already drove it to NC and back.....did fine..I dunno if it will do it again though...this is stressful.. I need a spring break
I already drove it to NC and back.....did fine..I dunno if it will do it again though...this is stressful.. I need a spring break
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