acetone in gas?! 30-50% better MPG?!!!!

http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showthread.php?t=143848

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=385048

http://www.lubedev.com/smartgas/octane.htm

http://www.lubedev.com/smartgas/additive.htm

I'm just doing a little research here... Anyone heard of this?

I originally thought more gas vaporization might= detonation, but the third site says acetone has octane of 150.

This may be shady, all the resources I've seen have the same graph. It makes me think it may be another internet scam...

yeah I read all the links..
it definitely sounds shady!

I want to hear BlazerLt's thinking on this. It's interesting because if you go to http://www.lubedev.com/ they sell oil testing equipment (BlazerLT can do that Lucas Gear Oil additive test). They promote doing all of your own testing and it seems like their articles are very informative, however they seem to blame the U.S's problems on foreign dependency of oil. He also says he got 30% better milage with Texaco gas- whatever.

I like how he pushes that you should do your own testing and verify his results, however I would like to see more information.

you can use Mineral speriets, also knowen as paint thinner, will do the same thing, dont over do it, youll fuck something up!

I gave it a try (500 ml bottle, added about 80 ml per tank fill), but didn't really notice anything ground breaking.

Mind you I was having fuel pump issues and probably I'm in terrible need of a new Distributor Cap and rotor (old one *ONLY* has 180,000 KMs).

I'll give it another try again once I get all the 'bugs' worked out.

Regards,
---- Robb -----

I would wait before doing any of this.

do yourself a favour do not put anything in your gastank (or crankcase)that doesent belong there!!!!!!simple ehhh,acetone eats plastic and rubber like "NO TOMMOROW"......man oh man...these things come up every there is jump in gas prices.

Agreed...

I ran this question by one of our local radio "AutoTalk" guys and he said simply "stay away from this.....", "If it was a good idea, there would be acetone in the gas already....."

Run forest run..... :iceslolan

do yourself a favour do not put anything in your gastank (or crankcase)that doesent belong there!!!!!!simple ehhh,acetone eats plastic and rubber like "NO TOMMOROW"......man oh man...these things come up every there is jump in gas prices.

Gasoline eats thru rubber and plastic like "NO TOMMOROW" as well.

I suspect it has more to do with the type and grade of plastic that the parts are made out of. While I can't say there would be no problem, let me play devils advocate.

Acetone comes in 'plastic' bottles, and is therefore able to be stored for long periods (Years) in plastic bottles at 100% concentration.

Acetone in gasoline is at the 0.001% concentration. That's like only 70 ml per 45 Liter fillup. I'm afraid I just don't see it being a huge issue with the plastic or rubber parts in the engine.

When we look at ethonol enriched gasoline, they use about 20 % ethonol, and that stuff 'does' ruin engines at that concentration. So what they do is mix a pile of other chemicals into the fuel to reduce the action of the ethonol on plastic and rubber.

20% ethonol concentation vs 0.001% acetone concentration. The amount of acetone is 1/12,000th the concentration of ethonol which is commonly used in engines.

With acetone being stored for years in plastic, and looking at the fuel concentrations involved I don't see a problem.

Nect factor in the people that have been doing this for 'YEARS' with their engines with ZERO issues. I'm afraid I just don't see it being a problem.

That is my opinion, others are free to disagree with me.

If I actually saw an improvement in gas mileage of 30%!! YES, YOU BETTCHA I'D DO IT! - IN LESS THEN 10 SECONDS!

Slight problem is:
I tried it in my engine, I haven't seen any improvement what so ever, and certainly not at the 30% level. In fact it looked like my gas mileage went down.

Hence I stopped doing acetone. After i'm finished getting my new plug wires, cap-and-rotor in place, I plan on trying it again to see if there is an improvement.

Regards,
---- Robb ----

More info here:

http://theoildrop.server101.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=5;t=003059

If it did really work wouldnt you think everyone would be talking about this???

If it did really work wouldnt you think everyone would be talking about this???

Well we are...

But I think we're all too skeptical to try it! (and rightly so)

I'm not holding my breath - at least on this topic. I will keep an eye out for any new info though!

I think this guy got it right.....


There are lots of reasons why refiners would love to blend it in. They still don't. Why...becuase it can kill fuel system parts. It's not a conspiracy...it would already be there if not for the serious technical problems.

I recently swapped out my fuel pressure regulator along with a few gasgets.

So what the heck, I dumped the old used parts into a bottle of 100% actetone. I'll letcha know if they melt away into 'nuthin'. I dumped the parts into the Actetone on Saterday.

24 hours later, I'm still waiting to see some kind of a problem with the parts, but there's absolutely 'diddley' happening to the parts at this time.

I'll keep people aware of my 'experiment' as time progresses.

Regards,
---- Robb ----

I wouldn't do it again.

I recently swapped out my fuel pressure regulator along with a few gasgets.

So what the heck, I dumped the old used parts into a bottle of 100% actetone. I'll letcha know if they melt away into 'nuthin'. I dumped the parts into the Actetone on Saterday.

24 hours later, I'm still waiting to see some kind of a problem with the parts, but there's absolutely 'diddley' happening to the parts at this time.

I'll keep people aware of my 'experiment' as time progresses.


Ok, we are at 4 days, and the parts look EXACTLY the same as the day I put them into the acetone. Today, I physically checked the gasgets today for any signs of them turning to mush.

No problems noted. Next update will be Saterday.

Regards,
---- Robb ----

actetone in ur fuel tank is dumb any one who does this is a friggen idiot acetone hardens rubber parts and makes plastic brittle also aluminum is damaged it basically pits parts beyond repair and some one else said if it worked fuel makers would use it my opinion is it is just dumb

I ended up pulling the parts out of my 100% pure acetone bottle.

My parts are totally fine, and show no issues what so ever. After about 1 month immersed in acetone would IMHO be the equivelent of about 10 years of acetone exposure at 100 ML per full tank fill up.

I needed the acetone to work on a few dirt-bikes. LOL! :-)

I will be re-testing the acetone as a gasoline additive once I get my Distributor Cap and Plug wires swapped out.

Has anyone else tried acetone as a gasoline additive / octane booster? What are the results.

Regards,
---- Robb ----

Thanks for showing us your findings!

I ended up pulling the parts out of my 100% pure acetone bottle.

My parts are totally fine, and show no issues what so ever. After about 1 month immersed in acetone would IMHO be the equivelent of about 10 years of acetone exposure at 100 ML per full tank fill up.

I needed the acetone to work on a few dirt-bikes. LOL! :-)

I will be re-testing the acetone as a gasoline additive once I get my Distributor Cap and Plug wires swapped out.

Has anyone else tried acetone as a gasoline additive / octane booster? What are the results.

Regards,
---- Robb ----

This is what I thought as well.

The claims that it will eat everything is unfounded and completely ridiculous if you have any knowledge about chemistry whatsoever.

The concentration is not even close to some of the other additives in our fuel that could do the exact same thing in high concentrations.

and what would you need 150octane for anyway????,a gallon of acetone cost how much??($8-9gal??),to bring gasoline up to 150octane takes how much acetone???,our trucks were designed to run on 89oct,and can easily run on 87 w/no loss of power(unless pulling a load),I've got a firebird sitting out front w/12.1comp and doing 130mph 1/4 trap speeds,and runs 93oct. w/no problems,no additives in the crankcase or tank,never have been,never will be,but its your money,if using additives makes you feel like you got something out of it,then more power to ya.



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I'm just doing a little research here... Anyone heard of this?I originally thought more gas vaporization might= detonation, but the third site says acetone has octane of 150.

I have a gas station in town that sells 130octane gas...costs a shit load though

130 works great every other fillup on your road bike or if you race auto cross

I use Acetone in a 2005 Ford Ranger and get perfect results and increased mileage. Take a look at http://www.GasGouging.com. There are articles related to acetone and interviews with people who have used it as well.

I ended up pulling the parts out of my 100% pure acetone bottle.

My parts are totally fine, and show no issues what so ever. After about 1 month immersed in acetone would IMHO be the equivelent of about 10 years of acetone exposure at 100 ML per full tank fill up.

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Regards,
---- Robb ----


I'm just curious but would heat or pressure have any effect on how acetone reacts to rubber or plastic? Correct me if I'm wrong but with acetone added to fuel, heat and pressure would be factors to how acetone reacts in our engines and on parts opposed to just sitting in a container.

Hello,

It's not just this board and those listed talking about it. I've been to several other automotive boards.

Even some firearms oriented boards are talking about it, and one gent on Shootersville.net is trying it and will average it out after about five tanks.

It seems just about everyplace I go I see "acetone this, acetone that" and people getting results.

Maybe there is something to it, and maybe not. I do not believe the small concentration will hurt you engine however.

Josh <><

I think I may try it. I will use a little less then 6 ounces per fill up considering I have a 18 gallon tank and it calls for 3 ounces per 10 gallons. I will let you know how it works out.

Quick update.. real scientific here... First tank, no real increase, slight. Second and third tank almost 25% increase, I usually get 400km - 430 a tank, second was 502 the third was 498. 60ltre tank.

Roger Crawford, a businessman and independent researcher in Midland, Texas, takes a different approach to fuel economy. He has just begun marketing a gas additive he calls “XtraMPG.” He says it boosts octane, burns cleaner and enables motorists to get better fuel economy and buy less-expensive grades of gas — saving 10 to 15 percent overall on gas.

What’s in XtraMPG? “Most of us know it as nail polish remover,” Crawford says. “It is simple acetone, a nonhazardous organic chemical ... rated at 150 octane.”

Crawford says he would be happy if everyone bought acetone and added it to their gas tanks. But since people seem reluctant, he is packaging it as XtraMPG.

From the following link: http://www.cantonrep.com/index.php?Category=5&ID=163197&r=5

Please visit http://www.gasgouging.com for more acetone related information.

http://www.extrampg.com/

It's just Acetone. Figure this.

100% Acetone/16oz bottle @ Walmart only $1.90 = $0.11oz

32 pack/128oz ExtraMPG @ extrampg.com only $126.72 = $0.99oz

Same thing, more expensive. Why not use Acetone?