Boost gas mileage 15-35%

I give up im not gonna get better milage with this motor and my heavy foot. Ill have to buy some race fuel for now...Later boys...

No ethanol on these 2 tanks warmer wheather and right on my average.
I would give credit to new plugs and slight warmer weather to bring my mpg back up to my original average.

18.29 mpg
17.75 mpg

pretty much give up on the acetone increasing mpg. Will do a few more tanks and then stop it and continue testing.:p

Alcohol will drop your mileage by up to 20%, avg 10-15 %. I read this on test cars. (in reports) Its not as powerful as gasoline. What if I added Water and aceotone, because ace. desplaces water, it will remain in a mixed state, perhaps adding a little alcohol to the water and ace and see what happens. The water will SLOW down the burn, the ACE will add oxygen. And the small amount of alcohol will ensure (hopefully) that the water will not separate. I will let you guys know how it goes.

89 Grand MArquis 26 HWY (higher then EPA already) running high pres 46PSI tires.

I'll be running ethanol soon without acetone mixed in and see. I give more credit to your high pressure tires than any of these addatives for mpg,,,I do not expect a drop in mpg from adding ethanol, but will test and see.

what do you guys think if one disconnected 2 fuel injectors and there sparkplug wires to turn a v8 into a v6 for fuel econ. my dad says it would ruin the pistons because gas lubes the top cyl walls, does anyone know. Wouldnt then the dod system ruin the piston rings too?

mileage did go up. about 2-5 mpg. thats major if its true. car feels like its coasting. barely touch petal and it goes 55

BEFORE TEST: 16.9 most recent.
(always varied between about 11 to 23 at the very best)

AFTER: 1st check: 23.98 (mostly city so that could be BIG TIME SAVINGS)


Will have to take her out on the highway and see if I can get better then 23. NEVER got better then that. I suppect it def am saving at the LEAST 2 mpg, trying to be conservative, since we all know the variables and how there impossible to control or predict unless we do it on a dyno.

Its a known fact that alcohol is modern auto engines will reduce gas mileage. If you go to e85.com, you will see they admit that gasohol will reduce mileage over gasoline. Even just 10 percent will reduce mileage. My trucks computer while burning e85 automatically turned up the Idle speed to comp for the gasohol. Average loss to be about 12% on E85

what do you guys think if one disconnected 2 fuel injectors and there sparkplug wires to turn a v8 into a v6 for fuel econ. my dad says it would ruin the pistons because gas lubes the top cyl walls, does anyone know. Wouldnt then the dod system ruin the piston rings too?

I think your Dad may be right in addition to reducing mpg a little and hp a lot.

ok ive read these threads of the adding of acetone. Has anyone heard of the hydrogen boost? I was searching the web came across this site www.hydrogen-boost.com. im thinking of just trying it.

Dan

I never seen this hydro thing before, if you do try it, let us know if it works. I tested my mileage again. And I have to say, its boarderline better, since there are so many uncontrolable variables, who knows for sure. Maybe 1-3 mpg better, maybe not. But of course thats a big deal if even 1 mpg. Will try another tank.

I am currently working on some info that will eliminate some variables. I'd like to get a scan gage too.

Gotta question for ya... Wsa reading thorugh this, and I did not see any newer trucks. I have a 2000 silverado and I was wondering if the acetone would work in a new truck as well as older ones?? Let me know what you all think and I may give it a shot.. Thanks

Very few people have had much success with acetone in the fuel injected systems, the computer compensates for the change. however it has been proven to make significant differance in Carb systems.

Best thing to do is to reprogram the computer to get your better gas milage.

I've been using it in a 99 venture (secretly) and there's no difference whatso ever.

I've heard that there is a "gas pill" on the market that is a combination of enzymes and catalysts that you put in your tank which boosts mpg and allows for a cleaner emmision. I am waiting for my shipment and will inform members of this forum about my results.

yes.. please let us know. BTW, how much did you purchase the pill for and how many do you get?

I've purchased and use Bio-Performance pills. I chose to receive the powder because it disolves in about 20 minutes as opposed to 8 hours with the pills. I've received some pretty good results with it. My power went up some in my Nissan Altima and so did my mileage. I went from 22 mpg to 28 mpg and in my 99 F-150 I recieved an increase from 11.5 mpg to 15 mpg! I drive about 45,000 miles a year for my job so I keep a pretty good eye on my gas mileage and this has really done good things in my vehicles. :smooch:

The great thing about this company is that the product has actual testing that proves it works. 2 international labs(ISO labs) have had 2 independent tests and have stated that it works. One test showed an increase of a little over 22% and one was a little over 25%. I personally know many people that have received gains of 30%-40% and one guy even more on his diesel RV. They say average savings are 18-22%. As you all know if someone doesn't take care of their vehicle nothing in the world would help them.

If you join you can get 2 bottles for about $60. Each bottle will fill about 20 tanks on a 15-16 gallon tank and about 10 on one the size of an F-150, 25-30 gallons. Each teaspoon of product treats 15 gal. of gas and each tablet treats 8 gallons. Your first 2 tankfulls you double up your doseage.

If you want some more info you can ask it on this forum or give me a call. If you want to try some out I'm sure I could get you a sample of it to try out.

You can take a look here and read up on the product tab and look at the testimonials(all of which are notorized and are sworn affidaviats).

www.bobn.mybpbiz.com

I hope this helps and thanks for the great forums.

Bob-Minnesota1
407-256-1532

How much power increase did you experience in the Altima? thanks and welcome to the forum.

How much power increase did you experience in the Altima? thanks and welcome to the forum.

I'm not sure exactly how much but I do know on cold start ups and responsiveness there was a felt difference. It's only a 4 banger so I can't expect too much but I did receive a noticeable little lift. Where I used to have that give or sponge at the beginning of excelleration that is now gone. I guess the product helps with the vapors.

On my truck I noticed it as well. Especially when I'm driving and I'm going up hills that my truck used to downshift on, when on cruise control, and now it does not shift down. Just about everyone I know that has tried the product out has noticed the same powering up. My father-n-law tried some on his Toyota small pick up and that was the first thing he noticed. He said his truck just didn't have that sponge feel anymore when he hit the gas pedal. His gas mileage went from 14 mpg to 20-21mpg! My brother-n-law on his dodge neon went from 30 mpg to 38 mpg.

The product contains some cleaners and lubricants as well so it will give your gas tank and lines a good cleaning. That's just an added benefit of the product. If you go to my web site it will explain a little better how it lowers the flash point of the gas and thus it burns more efficiently/completely.

Bob
www.bobn.mybpbiz.com
407-256-1532

I realize we are all looking for ways to improve fuel economy. But these Bio Performance pills are a farce and nothing but part of a MLM scam....so please beware. Further, any post(s) of this nature with a web site link to the person's business is classified as spam on AF and violates our community guidelines and advertising rules. Please report posts of this nature. Thank you for your cooperation.

[quote=bnaylor]I realize we are all looking for ways to improve fuel economy. But these Bio Performance pills are a farce and nothing but part of a MLM scam....so please beware.

I'd like to make a point. It's O.K. for you not to allow my e-mail address-I'm fine with that. But for you to call it a farce is ridiculous and frankly a little ignorant. These pills/powder have 2 seperate International Standards Organization (ISO) tests, the largest standardized testing labs in the world, that say yes indeed they do work and work up to 25% in their tests. So before you go and give the standard "It's nothing more than a scam" line maybe you should look at their web page, look at their testing-which I would like to see real lab tests from all these other products-at least this one backs up their claims with real tests. In the next few weeks they will release some more testing done in independent labs here in the United States as well.

Also, all testimonials are sworn affidaviats that have been notorized. I guess you'd like to call all 50,000 + people now involved in it liars and scam artists because we've seen actual results with this product.

So please before you make derrogatory remarks about this company please check your facts-not what you assume they probably are. Bio Performance does say do not expect any results for 4 tank fulls of gas and some only try one and see no result and then call it a scam. Shame on them for not following through before they make their claims.

In the future I will refrain from posting my web page. Thank you for the correction.

Thanks,

Minnesota1

Sir you are in violation of this site's EULA, unathorised advertising is not allowed. Therefore your account is now banned and your IP information has been logged.

I've been reading your posts for a while now. I'd have to say it's been interesting. To be fair to Minnesota1 I do not think his last post was advertising, it looks to me like he was responding to the moderator's accusations and to a couple of questions posed by other members. I've been using Bio Performance powder for about a month and have had great results in my little truck. I guess I feel like I'm walking on needles here because I want to express my opinion on this product but am afraid to because you might view it as advertising.

I hope you can be fair to those of us who have found something that has worked for us and love reading about other products and technologies as well.

Sincerely,

Dwight

I've been reading your posts for a while now. I'd have to say it's been interesting. To be fair to Minnesota1 I do not think his last post was advertising, it looks to me like he was responding to the moderator's accusations and to a couple of questions posed by other members. I've been using Bio Performance powder for about a month and have had great results in my little truck. I guess I feel like I'm walking on needles here because I want to express my opinion on this product but am afraid to because you might view it as advertising.

I hope you can be fair to those of us who have found something that has worked for us and love reading about other products and technologies as well.

Sincerely,

Dwight

You need to get your facts straight. It was not the last post Minnesota1 made but his prior post which you cannot see at this time. And clearly that violated AF advertising rules.

You may be having good results with the product but others are not. Why is this product marketed under a MLM scheme? If you review the so called ISO tests no lab or address is included in the results. Anyone can doctor up data. The Bio Performance pills have become a controversial subject. Most of the people claiming mileage improvement are also selling the product. So go figure.

The Better Business Bureau of Dallas ranks this company as UNSATISFACTORY and warns consumers the product is marketed under a MLM scheme.

I stand by my statements 100%.

You may be having good results with the product but others are not. Why is this product marketed under a MLM scheme? If you review the so called ISO tests no lab or address is included in the results. Anyone can doctor up data. The Bio Performance pills have become a controversial subject. Most of the people claiming mileage improvement are also selling the product. So go figure.

Just to address some of these: There is not any product ever invented that works for all people. Secondly, If you have some evidence that these tests have been doctored up I would love to see it. Thirdly, If you tried a product and received great results wouldn't you want to get in and sell it as well??

As per Minnesota1 I don't recall his first post that well so I'm sure you did what you thought was right but a one time offender I'm sure usually only gets a warning not banned. But I'm here to learn and not to bicker.

I enjoy your forum.

Dwight

Just to address some of these: There is not any product ever invented that works for all people. Secondly, If you have some evidence that these tests have been doctored up I would love to see it. Thirdly, If you tried a product and received great results wouldn't you want to get in and sell it as well??

Dwight

The adverse facts and negative publicity on this product speaks for itself. And the answer to your question is a resounding NO!!! I have a conscience. I would never engage in a business that amounts to nothing but deceptive trade practices and selling what is mothballs repackaged. And if this product was so good you would offer a money back guarantee.

BTW - The burden of proof is on you to convince me that the product works but at this point in time that would be an exercise in futility.


http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff179058.htm


More importantly, they said they believe the product can make them millionaires. In fact, Mims' goal is to help 1,000 people become millionaires this year.
BioPerformance said the company is completely legit and talk openly about it in a presentation they call the "American Dream or Pyramid Scheme?"
But when Meredith approached Mims for an interview, he wasn't so open.
"Can I ask you some questions?" Meredith asked.
"You have to get a disclosure form, a disclosure form you have to fill out with Doc Fog, but thank you," he said.
In fact, Mims couldn't get away from her fast enough.
"For hours, we've been hearing you have nothing to hide. So, why can't you talk to me right now?" she said.
"We have to legally make sure everything is covered so you all won't hurt our company," Mims said.
One of his followers even acted as his bodyguard and stopped Meredith from getting on the escalator.
"You're going to block me?" she said.
Meredith tried talking to other BioPerformance heavyweights.
"This is an interview?" one person asked.
"Yes," Meredith said.
"No thanks. I got to go. I got a dinner thing going on right now," he said.
She felt as about welcome as a wet dog at a wedding.
"I have to say, for a company that says they have nothing to hide, everyone walks away from us," Meredith said.
Why are they running? Maybe the answer is printed on the bottle. In tiny print is a bizarre disclaimer. "BioPerformance, Inc., doesn't guarantee anyone any results," it says.



Little Green Pill Put To Test
So to get to the bottom of the little green pill, we enlisted the help of two experts at the University of Central Florida. Dr. Kevin Belfield, the head of chemistry department, was brought on board to find out what's in the pill.
And to find out if the little green pill works, we recruited Dr. Bob Hoekstra. His lab at UCF tests race car engines.
Hoekstra's plan was very straightforward. We took our car to a shop called KDK Performance and strapped our minivan to what's essentially a treadmill for cars.
Hoekstra put in a very measured amount of plain old regular unleaded gas, and then ran the engine at approximately 70 mph. We did this over and over again until we got a baseline. The minivan runs out of gas after about 10 minutes.
To prove BioPerformance's claim, the little green pill needs to run that motor 25 percent longer.
"We should go about 12 ½ minutes," Hoekstra said.
But there's a catch. Before we can test the little green pill, first, we have to feed our minivan a bunch of pills, according to the directions you get online. You are supposed to give your car a "boostershot" -- feed your gas tank double the number of pills normally needed.
So before we see any results, we need to burn four tanks of gas.
While we're burning those miles, Dr. Belfield and his UCF students made an interesting discovery.
''It smells like mothballs," Meredith said.
Decades ago, mothballs were made of a chemical called naphthalene. So they tested the pill, and bingo.
''Naphthalene?" Meredith asked.
"Naphthalene. That's right," Belfield said.
It's almost 100 percent; the rest is coloring.
"You have a little graph and everything?" Meredith asked Belfield.
On his graph, a red line represented the chemical naphthalene, and a black line represented the little green pill. They matched.



"The two spectra are identical," Belfield said.
What's more, on the bottle, BioPerformance claims the little green pill is "non toxic" but naphthalene is toxic. In fact, decades ago, children died after eating mothballs made of naphthalene. It even has links to cancer.
"One can inhale it, one can ingest it and one can have it absorbed through the skin, and those all very detrimental effects," Belfield said.
One thousand miles later, we were back on the treadmill. Hoekstra crushed a little green pill, dissolved it in the gas and then poured the same measured amount in the minivan time and time again.
We came out with basically the same results as before.
"There is no difference in mileage whatsoever," Hoekstra said.
The little green pill was a bust.
"Bottom line?" Meredith asked Hoekstra.
"You're throwing your money away," he said. "It simply does not work."
Maybe that's why the president of BioPerformance is a man on the run. He's a man who runs from reporters who question the little green pill.
"Is this too good to be true? Are you running interference?" Meredith asked him.
"We have to protect ourselves. Like Barbara Bush says, we have to watch you all like the plague," Mims said.
During the gas crisis of the 1970s, some people put mothballs in their tanks to try and save money, and it did not work then and it does not work now.
Something else that does not work are the phones at BioPerformance. Every number Meredith called was either disconnected or went right to voicemail.

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How much power increase did you experience in the Altima? thanks and welcome to the forum.

I guess I should not have popped the question (or the welcome)

I was looking forward to the dialog and to debunking the claims. I'm glad you guys are "on it" and familiar with this product (scam)

I guess I should not have popped the question (or the welcome)

I was looking forward to the dialog and to debunking the claims. I'm glad you guys are "on it" and familiar with this product (scam)

No problem 534BC. You're cool.

We have a duty to enforce AF rules and help protect our members. It wasn't the first time we have encountered this type of spam and probably not the last.

Feel free to discuss the pros or cons of this type of product or any similar in nature as long as our community guidelines are followed. The more people know about these dubious products the better. After all the topic of the forum is fuel economy. Dialogue and debate is what its about.

Have a nice day! :)

For anyone interested, the Texas Attorney General has filed suit against BioPerformance for violations of deceptive trade practices and for promoting an illegal pyramid scheme.

I dont think acetone would be to good for fuel injectors

as i understand it, acetone has little or no effect on Fuel Injection engines.
the reason is that acetone is a surficant of sorts. that means that it nearly eliminates surface tension in the gasoline as it is being injected into the engine. this aids in atomization of gasoline, which helps make more power while wasting less fuel (as unburnt exhaust) and cleans the whole system in the process.

carburators have poor fuel atomization, so they can benifit the most from acetone.

the thing that worries me about acetone is having it sit in the tank.

can anyone think of a way to inject acetone into the mix right before it enters the carb? kind of like a modified water injection system. it would be better because you could get the metering down and not have to worry about getting the ratios right in the tank.

could you modify a wet nitrous system to inject acetone?
this might be the best way.

you couldnt inject it before the carb, but that might help prevent doing damage to the rubber in the carb anyway.


opinions anyone???

as i understand it, acetone has little or no effect on Fuel Injection engines.

My concern is in regard to the insulation around the windings of the fuel injectors themselves. Alcohol is known to disolve this material. Granted there are different types of alcohol, and I make no claim to be an expert on them, but i'd bet this is not a compound that would agree with the insulator, let alone the fact it's useless in increasing atomization. I am always up for evidence dismissing my claim though...

acetone isn't an alcohol, it's an aldehyde. (i originally said ketone, the common name isn't as easy to identify as the IUPAC name, easy mistake)

as for the injection of acetone before the carb, do you mean inject it into the fuel lines or inject it into the intake? it wouldn't do anything if you injected it into the intake. this principle works on the idea that it weakens the surface tension in gasoline to allow the nozzle to atomize it more. this wouldn't happen if you just injected it into the intake since the nozzle has already done its job before the gasoline comes in contact with the acetone.

Also, from what i've learned aldehydes don't react with alkanes or polymers so if it's rubber in the carb i wouldn't be worried, i'd worry about other components. although over prolonged exposure it might react, i'm not positive.

well i was thinking you could inject it into the fuel supply right before, or at the fuel filter, right before the carb. i doubt acetone would be able to do much damage while the engine was running, but if it was to sit in the carb all night, i'd be afraid it'd do some damage. you would want a way to turn it off about 10 seconds before you shut the car off for good too to keep it from sitting in the cylinders. it might not do much damage, but it would make me feel better to have a button to have manual control.

the only problem would be metering.

i cant see how you would inject such a small amount of acetone into the fuel acurately.

as i understand it, acetone has little or no effect on Fuel Injection engines.
the reason is that acetone is a surficant of sorts. that means that it nearly eliminates surface tension in the gasoline as it is being injected into the engine. this aids in atomization of gasoline, which helps make more power while wasting less fuel (as unburnt exhaust) and cleans the whole system in the process.

carburators have poor fuel atomization, so they can benifit the most from acetone.

the thing that worries me about acetone is having it sit in the tank.

can anyone think of a way to inject acetone into the mix right before it enters the carb? kind of like a modified water injection system. it would be better because you could get the metering down and not have to worry about getting the ratios right in the tank.

could you modify a wet nitrous system to inject acetone?
this might be the best way.

you couldnt inject it before the carb, but that might help prevent doing damage to the rubber in the carb anyway.


opinions anyone???

An engine burn 98-99% of the fuel it gets given that there is enough oxygen for a complete burn. The small amount of fuel that is not burned is not caused by poor vaporisation, rather is's caused by low temperatures encountered at "hidden places" in the combustion chamber (the fuel injector nozzle of a diesel, the space between the piston and the cylinder above the top ring and so on). Even if there was an additve (catalyst) that could make those last 1-2% to burn, it wouldn't have any significant effect on the fuel consumption. There are in other words no margins for improvement in this area.

The explaination about how acetone work is also completly BS, it's nothing more than pseudoscience. Here's a few examples of the stupidity:

Complete vaporization of fuel is far from perfect in today's cars.
As explained above, this is not an issue

Surface tension presents an obstacle to vaporization. For instance the energy barrier from surface tension can sometimes force water to reach 300 degrees Fahrenheit before it vaporizes.
Someone was obviously sleeping during physics class in school! Phase changes, heat of vaporisation, vapor pressure... does it ring a bell?

Most fuel molecules are sluggish with respect to their natural frequency. Acetone has an inherent molecular vibration that "stirs up" the fuel molecules, to break the surface tension.
A first class example of pseudoscience. Mix together a lot of words so that it appears scientific, preferbly words the average person does not understand. However, in the end it has no scientific meaning.

If we go back to actual science, we know that driving habits can affect the fuel consumption as much as 30%. We also know that it can be difficult to measure the actual consumption without additional testing equipment. In other words, if you want to compare fuel consumption data for a car you need to do it by following a specified driving cycle where the car is put in a controlled environment with equipment measuring all significant data. If you do this, I can guarantee you that you will get evidence that acetone does not improve mileage.

I just did the test with my 1992 Buick Roadmaster 350 TBI I have had the car for two years and drove it to FL 3 times and the best gas mileage I have ever got was 504 to the tank and it took 19.5 gal of gas. On the was down to FL this time I got 490 on my best tank and it took 19.2 gal of gas and there was little to no traffic the hole run. On the way home I used 2oz of acetone and my first tank I got 514 on the tank and the gas lite was not on yet I still had to get gas not wanting to run out the car only took 18.8 gal. on the next tank with another 2oz we raced a Ranger blew him away and my wife said the car never felt that fast I did not even tell her about the acetone we went 535 to the tank and again no fuel light the car took only 19.2 gal.
After this I am 100% sure acetone works in my car I don't car what kind of formula you have that says it will not work I know for a fact that it does.

I'm wondering if anybody has tried to make a miniature sized container of this stuff and tested rubber parts in it

I soak rubber tires in it and it doesn't hurt them, but it eats away glue and some plastics (turns them to mush)

Wait so is this legit?

Only soaking model tires in acetone is legit. Using acetone in cars is legit , but it does nothing at all. I'm currently doing my second round of testing in multiple vehicles and multiple back to back tests. The conclusion will be the same, No difference in MPG.

I tried it in my 01 Taurus - Call me dumb.

Lately my gas mileage has been going down. On my last non-acetone tank I got 20.1 mpg. I added 6oz of acetone to the 18gal tank (too much by mistake) and I ended up with 22mpg - I was also carrying around 4 tires in the trunk and doing much more city driving than.

What I noticed more than that is my starting problem went away and the car idles much smoother.



And I've been doing some research on this stuff - if you go reasonable with it (no more than 3oz per 10 gallons) you WON'T have any negative effects.

An engine burn 98-99% of the fuel it gets given that there is enough oxygen for a complete burn. The small amount of fuel that is not burned is not caused by poor vaporisation, rather is's caused by low temperatures encountered at "hidden places" in the combustion chamber (the fuel injector nozzle of a diesel, the space between the piston and the cylinder above the top ring and so on). Even if there was an additve (catalyst) that could make those last 1-2% to burn, it wouldn't have any significant effect on the fuel consumption. There are in other words no margins for improvement in this area.
i'm sorry, but i disagree.

engines do not burn liquid gasoline.
they burn gasoline vapors.

acetone allows gas to be vaporized better than it would if it was simply put thru the atomizing jets in a carburator.

it is this complete vaporization that allows for better mileage and more power.

it is easy to see if you compare a carburated engine with an identical engine that is fuel injected, or one that has direct injection.
the better the vaporization of fuel, the more fuel will burn, the more power you will make, and the more mileage you will get.

I like black and white examples.

So if its great, why such a small percetage. If the properties of acetone are so great, why not add more?

What would happen if you ran a tank with only acetone, no gas? ignoring the cost, would it double your power? Double your mileage?

It will triple your mpg and double your power, but cost 10X. hehe.

I like black and white examples.

So if its great, why such a small percetage. If the properties of acetone are so great, why not add more?

What would happen if you ran a tank with only acetone, no gas? ignoring the cost, would it double your power? Double your mileage?


Have you ever heard of "too much of a good thing can kill you?" Well samething here. If you were to run 100% acetone, you would kill your engine. Your engine is not design to run off of 100% acetone.

Second of all.. Acetone will not always increase your mpg or your HP. it will vary be care.. infact it seems to work better for carbs. not much difference in FI engines.

Not to mention MythBusters did a test on Acetone, Tonahoe Covers, Tailgate down.. And they found the Myth busted. In fact the only thing they found that actually works with saving MPG is putting on a net in place of the tailgate. Now understand that they only used one vehicle to test these different approaches. Tests may have been different on a different vehicle.

My point here is that Acetone is not all what it is cracked up to be.

I'm happy with the results it gave me

I did a test run today with acetone and got a 10% increase. I have a 2007 Ranger XLT with 2.3L 4cyl, auto trans, and a ScanGauge II. The truck has 1600 miles on it so far, and I'm not wild about the fuel economy of 21 mpg avg. I let the rings break in before I started my quest. Today I drove a 37 mile test loop down I5 from one exit to another several miles away, and then back again. It's a generally flat, straight piece of highway in good condition. It had moderate traffic this morning with mild weather, no rain, and no wind. I drove a steady 65 mph both ways. The ScanGauge indicated 22.3 mpg on the first trip. Then I added 2 oz of acetone from NAPA to 12.5 gal reg fuel. The second trip got 24.5 mpg for an increase of 10%.

I'm going to drive out this tank, and try the test again after the next fillup.

No, when mythbusters tested the tailgate, they proved that leaving the tailgate up was better. the truck drove five miles or so farther than the one with the tailgate down. this is because of the vortex that was created in the bed by the tailgate being down. when the tailgate is up, it smoothes the airflow and the air is not being forced to take weird flow patterns.

as for the acetone, i dont know if they tested it, but i'm willing to be that if they did, they tested it on a newer car that had fuel injection.

Okay. I filled up today after 298 miles with 12.3 gal for an avg 24.2 mpg. The ScanGauge predicted 13.5 gal. So, I save a little over a gallon. I drove normally this week - a mix of highway and city, 20 mile trips and quickies to the grocery store, unloaded and fully loaded with lumber from Home Depot. Not bad. A solid ten percent increase. Was it the acetone, or is the truck loosening up? Verdict is still out. I added 3 oz of acetone to this tank. I'll run it out and then refill without next time to see if I take a hit in mileage. This week I anticipate only commuting which is my normal useage. I'll let you know.

I need to buy a Scan Gauge. I wasn't thinking when I started using acetone, but my mileage went from 20-24 ... the only thing is I also got a howling wheel bearing fixed on the same tank.

I'm more happy with the reduction in pinging and the smoother idle.

well i'm joining the acetone groupies.
just poured half a bottle of nail polish remover into my tank and filled it to 25 gallons.

probably could go higher percent wise, but i'll start off here.

i was at the grocery store when i figured, what the hell. i'll try it.
i'll let you know how it goes.

results:
the first time i drove this route, i burned 13.2 gallons of gas each way.
the way down on the secon time, i added acetone and burned 13.7 gallons of gas.
the way back on the second time, i added acetone and burned 10.8 gallons of gas.

the acetone really helped.
the reason for the poor mileage the way down was that i averaged 75 mph instead of my usual 60.
on the control and on the way back, i averaged 60

it seems to work pretty well.

not to bum you guys out... BUT

here in oklahoma, buying too much acetone will put you on the suspected meth manufacturer's list.
i understand you are not making meth, you are making mileage, but they are talking about removing acetone from the shelves here.
simply food for thought!

I tried acetone 1 oz per 10 gallons in my Cherokee yesterday and on a 150 miles I got 22.5 mpg when I usually get 19 to 20. It's day 2 now and I got about 20.3 mpg in 189 miles. The power seems better and it starts up better also.
I'm going to try it in the 1992 Roadmaster soon. I'm looking forward to that.

I've done some research on acetone in the last few days and it seems like the ford trucks and Explorer's do well with 3 oz per 10 gallons and the Dodge Neons and caravans have reported good results.

The results I found reported on Jeeps were not that good. But they all seemed to use 3 oz per 10. I'm hoping 1 or 2 oz per 10 will do the trick.

I'm glad I found this forum as it looks as if many of you are actually trying stuff.

It seems a lot of people claim the best MPG increase claims on long trips. Does acetone evaporate out of the tank quickly? lose efficiency? or am I noticing something that isn't really there?

Here's my findings on running acetone consistantly and for a long period of time on my familiar blazer and repetative routes and conditions.

18 mpg average over 18 fill-ups 17.33-19.48 mpg NO ACETONE
18 mpg average over 11 fill-ups 16.0 -19.61 mpg NO ACETONE
18 mpg average over 14 fill-ups 15.4 -21.78 mpg NO ACETONE
18 mpg average over 15 fill-ups 15.4 -19.4 mpg NO ACETONE
16 mpg average over 4 fill-ups 13.87 -16.94 mpg NO ACETONE
17 mpg average over 8 fill-ups 15.84 -20.0 mpg NO ACETONE
17.4 mpg average over 4 fill-ups 16.67 -17.83 mpg NO ACETONE
16.5-17.5 average with 12 fill-ups NO ACETONE
18.5 average with 6 fill-ups NO ACETONE
16.43 average with 6 fill-ups NO ACETONE
17.5 with 2 fills no acetone
16.9 with 4 fills no acetone
16.93 with 4 fills no acetone

16.26 mpg average over 4 fill-ups 15.68 -17.2 mpg WITH ACETONE
18.8 mpg average over 4 fill-ups 18.29 -19.68 mpg WITH ACETONE
17.56 mpg average over 2 fill-ups 17.11 -18.0 mpg WITH ACETONE
17.08 mpg average over 14 fill-ups 15.57 -18.64 mpg WITH ACETONE

1999 Chevy Venture with unaware driver. Driver was not told about any testing or anything. Full tank refill only and ran about 500 miles each tank.
Actual and computer mpg was compared and these are the computer mpg.

20.3 non acetone
22.2 non acetone
22.5 non acetone
19.7 non acetone
21.9 non acetone
20.6 non acetone
21.7 non acetone
21.8 non acetone
22.2 non acetone
21.3 non acetone
22.26 non acetone
23.3 non-acetone
21.9 non acetone
27 non-acetone
28 non acetone
22.2 non acetone
25.9 non-acetone
27.9 non acetone
20.8 non acetone
23 non acetone
26.9 non acetone


All acetone figures (same 500 mile fill-ups for full tank test)

19.86
22.2
22.8
23.31
22.9
22.3
21.6
20.6
21.3
22.0
22.1


Back to NO acetone

22.4
23.5
23.0
22.5
22.7
22.8
19.8 (ethanol 20-30%)

This thread has run it's course since it's inception in March 2005. Time to put it to rest.