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Stang7_15
03-23-2005, 06:31 PM
I know this isn't that important but i felt i should ask. I just got my first car about 7 months ago and it's a 2000 v6 automatic mustang. My dad surprised me with the car. I wanted a gt but i'm only 17 so i couldn't afford the car or the insurance. Anywayz the car came already had borla dual exhausts, headers, and something called plasma ignition solution and nology hot wires. I don't know if the last two thing actually help. I later bought a Mac cold air intake. I haven't done much too but i'm planning on doing it. It also has a 2 inch drop. Well my cousin said we should race. He has an 96 eclipse rs or gs or somthing. It's a v4 with exhaust, cold air intake, and headers. He also has a sound system so that might add wieght. SO Who do you guys think will win. I'm just asking for an opinion.

SkylineUSA
03-23-2005, 06:37 PM
Ask your dad, then tell us what he thinks.

Does the Eclipse have a turbo? If so, I would take the Eclipse.

Stang7_15
03-23-2005, 07:00 PM
What do you mean ask my dad! NO it has no turbo

Stang7_15
03-23-2005, 07:01 PM
I Helped my dad pay for the car dont' think I'm spoiled or anything

nfg2184
03-23-2005, 07:23 PM
V6's are pretty slow, and that dual exhaust isn't really going to do you much good, just adding extra weight, you're not pushing enough air as it is. Eclipsi aren't too fast either, especially if it's not even a GST. I still think he'd take you though.

73Eleanor
03-23-2005, 07:54 PM
If the Eclipse is a manual it will take you every day of the week. If not then you might have a chance. You can build your v6 though too compete with Cobra's. As much as I am against v6 mustangs, I think they're a disgrace, but I know a guy who has built his v6. He's about to stroke the engine, and he's got TONS of mods.

dampachi
03-23-2005, 08:03 PM
haha. it's a V4. :rolleyes:

Stang7_15
03-23-2005, 09:08 PM
I dont get it, it has almost the same mods and mine is a v6 and his is a v4 is manual that much better than automatic

TheStang00
03-23-2005, 10:57 PM
well two things to consider, the auto in the model of mustang likes to eat horsepower, almost like thats its job, and also the I4 in the eclipse has a lot better technology than ur 6 cylinder... dohc vs ohv. i think youll win tho, major hp and torque advantage. but idk with that auto, if u had a stick u would win no problem.

SkylineUSA
03-24-2005, 12:40 AM
Line them up and run.

tturnpaw
03-24-2005, 09:39 AM
V6's are pretty slow, and that dual exhaust isn't really going to do you much good, just adding extra weight, you're not pushing enough air as it is. Eclipsi aren't too fast either, especially if it's not even a GST. I still think he'd take you though.

I doubt it. The turbo eclipses are way better than the na's. Thats where they build there power. v4? no they dont have a v4. i would like to know what car has a v4 motor in it though. Turbo eclipses are pretty damn fast with little mods. But they are hella heavy (around 3300-3400) those gens are anyway. I agree with v6 mustangs being a disgrace. A mustang didnt become the name it is because of the 2.3l or the v6. V8 all the way!

tturnpaw
03-24-2005, 09:42 AM
dont worry about the race though. youll win definately. that turbo eclipse is also an auto so he can boost off the line. but with an na it wont matter. ull smoke him. cause it is a mustang.

alphalanos
03-24-2005, 09:46 AM
if his is NA then you should win. oh btw...this was bothering me: someone already said I4, but that I4 only has one header, not headerS.

Stang7_15
03-24-2005, 01:42 PM
IT HAS NO TURBO 4 cylinder I repeat NO TURBO

duplox
03-24-2005, 02:09 PM
Line them up and run.
Thats the only way we'll ever find out. No matter how much bullshitting about which makes more power which trans is better etc, no one could possibly know without racing. Whats going on here is called bench racing. Its pointless.

i would like to know what car has a v4 motor in it though.
Saab Sonetts (late 60s/70s Saab sports car) had a V4.
http://www.wmsbrg.com/saab/1500_V4.jpg
Apparently they threw them in a few cars, because that isn't a sonnett. 1.5L/1500cc. They also came out with a 1700cc version in '70.

Here is a lovely v4 Sonett:
http://www.seriouswheels.com/pics-1960-1969/1968-Saab-Sonett-V4-red-fa-lr.jpg
That is exactly like the one my dad had, down to the color. I'd love to have one. They're light as hell, under 2000lbs. Small, all fiberglass body, pretty boring interior, and unitbody.
Before the v4 they had a 2stroke, longitudally mounted 3 cylinder with triple side draft carbs. Both engines ran to 100km/hr in 12.5 seconds. Not bad for 60hp!
Over a decade(1966-1974), less than 15,000 were produced. Weight varied from 1,450lbs('66-'67), 1,550lbs('68-'69), to 1,900lbs('70-'74).
I'd love to get one and turbocharge or supercharge it, squeeze 150-200hp out of it.

SkylineUSA
03-24-2005, 02:16 PM
Off topic....Nice Saab....Me like a lot.

PearlGT
03-25-2005, 10:52 AM
if his is manual then that torque advantage you may hold over him statistically may not be put to use as he'll have the ability to launch and you'll have the ability to push the pedal. I'd think he'll be in his powerband before you and if you're lucky you'll catch up to him but I've got to wonder if that dual exhaust is robbing you of hp.

tturnpaw
03-25-2005, 08:41 PM
IT HAS NO TURBO 4 cylinder I repeat NO TURBO

Ya im pretty sure i got that from the start. I was just saying the turbo ones are fast so maybe thats why he thinks his is.

tturnpaw
03-25-2005, 08:45 PM
that freakin Saab is bad azz! Thatd b one sweet ride! with some turbo, of course.

Thunderstang00
03-26-2005, 10:15 PM
this sounds like my storyi told a wile ago. I have a 2000 v6 automatic,(MODS: Dual exhaust, MAC Cold Air Intake, Sumitomo tires), and my friend has a 98 Eclipse GS (Cold Air Intake). the Eclipse is Manual. we raced from a stop. since his was manual he had me in first, but once i hit second gear i pulled on him hard and literally flew by him at the top of second. once i hit my limiter at 115 i had mabey 2-3 cars on him. thats when we stopped. If we went on further he probably would have passed me since he has a higher top speed I THINK, not 100% shure.

anyways you should beat him if it is a GS Eclipse. (from 0-115 MPH)
and also in the 1/4 mile.

hope this helps.

http://www.mustangforums.com/m_358959/tm.htm
this was my story

ModifiedCars
03-26-2005, 10:50 PM
Race him, For fun, if you beat him Race for SLIPS!

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