Rims!!!!!!

ok guys i got another ? about my rims...I have motegi mr7's and on my z24 the front wheels there is a nut that sticks out in the middle that wont allow me to put my rims on with the center cap in...the only way i could fit them on was to take off the motegi center cap...is there anyway i can get the cap on

are your lug nuts too long?

no it has nothing to do with the lug nuts....its the center cap....im talking about the center of the wheel part on the car like one the rotor....there is a screw that sticks out so my rim wont fit on unless i take the center cap of the rim off then that screw slides through the whole were the center cap was

your from il i see lol so am i, um i am trying to picture it but i can't. how big is this thing and what it is connected to

ok picture a cavalier with out the front wheel on.... in the center of the rotor there or whatever it is there is a screw that sticks out..makin it impossible for the rim to go on unless i took the center cap of the rim off so the screw can slide through...on the back that screw isnt there.

is it a huge ass bolt with a big nut on it. and your rotor goes around it

yeah

yea thats your hub if i remember right, did u buy your rims online?

no i bought them off a guy with a sunfire who said he had to do the same thing to get them on..i just wondered if there was a way i could get them on with the center cap or if there as like a deeper cap i could buy

that i don't believe so because then the center cap would stick out past your rim.

What you are seeing is the end of your axle shaft. If you are willing you could cut off the excess shaft flush with the end of the nut that holds it onto the hub this may give you enough room to install your center cap

is that safe?

by a 1/4 inch wheel spacer from autozone! that is the hub nut!

by a 1/4 inch wheel spacer from autozone! that is the hub nut!
i put that on after i cut it?

i put that on after i cut it?

cut what you don't need to cut anything It'll position your wheel 1/4" or whatever spacer you get out further, now it could rub the splashguard on full lock but it's nothing more than annoying! It should work. DON'T cut the the hub nut in anyway!

i dont think that will work

i would not recommend putting spacers on. they negatively affect your cars suspension because they are moving the rim farther away from the hub than the car was designed for. that could impair your handling, and wear out your suspension. just leave the caps off and put some good lubricant on the exposed hub nut. try lithuim grease or silicon spray

[but I Want Them On!!!

well if you want the caps on that badly then get the spacers...

well if you want the caps on that badly then get the spacers...

Or new rims that fit.

Or new rims that fit.
you're dumb.

well... basically what the spacers will do is move them away from the hub. Your wheel really needs to sit on the hub of your car. J-bodys are hub centric design where other cars can be lug centric. So by adding the spacer you might just be riding around by your lug nuts holding your car up. This could also throw your wheel off balance and make the ride above 50mph awful. THe rims i have came off a grand am which has a larger hub and a 5x114.5 lug pattern. The rims are 10 lug universal so the inner holes are 5X100. But i had to get hubcentric rings to fill the gap between the inner hub bore of the rim and the j-body 57.1mm hub size. These keep the rims dead center and spin true. You must have a really high offset rim. SOmthing like 50mm or greater. Higher the # the closer inside the wheel sits in the tire well to your struts. If your drop your car you might also have rubbing problems on your spring perch.

you're dumb.
How am I dumb? I have 18" rims on my car and had no problem with the hub. Get rims that fit and you wont have that problem. Your friend told you what he had to do to get them to fit to begin with so what makes you think you can make them fit perfectly on your car?

do u have motegi mr7's?

No, but what difference does it make?

wow...if you dont think there is a difference between different brand rims you are dumber than i thought

spacers will only put extra stress on the wheel bearing not anyhting else! Torqued correctly the wheel and hub basically become one so don't worry about shearing lugs! This is your only way of getting the caps on and short of modding the caps what else can you do?

spacers will only put extra stress on the wheel bearing not anyhting else! Torqued correctly the wheel and hub basically become one so don't worry about shearing lugs! This is your only way of getting the caps on and short of modding the caps what else can you do?


Uhh... depends in the spacer size. Your wheel bearing is the hub. If you get a 1/4" wheel spacer is pushes the wheel out. Probably far enough to where the wheel won't rest on the hub anymore. Once the rotor is on the hub there is only like 1/4" there for the wheel to rest on.

wow...if you dont think there is a difference between different brand rims you are dumber than i thought

You are calling me dumb and you have no idea what I'm talking about. I said nothing about not knowing the difference between the brand of rims! I asked you a question...which you did not answer (and yet i'm dumb) and here is the question again for you...Your friend told you what he had to do to get them to fit to begin with so what makes you think you can make them fit perfectly on your car?

You replied with do you have motegi mr7s, which makes no difference to the question I asked. So do not go around calling me dumb when you aren't even reading what I typed!

Look if you don't want to take their idea about spacers and you don't want to remove the center cap you are just shit out of luck! Only choice you have is to get new rims or stay with stock!

all he said to me was he couldnt figure out how to get them on with the center caps so i thought id ask...didnt think youd be an ass about it

How was I being an ass. I made an suggestion and that was it. You called me dumb for that!

Uhh... depends in the spacer size. Your wheel bearing is the hub. If you get a 1/4" wheel spacer is pushes the wheel out. Probably far enough to where the wheel won't rest on the hub anymore. Once the rotor is on the hub there is only like 1/4" there for the wheel to rest on.

No the hub runs on the bearing. the hub is also otherwise known as the spindle and is just a pice of tubular hardened steel with splines indie for the driveshaft and a plate on the end with the lungs attached! the bearings are in two parts, dual race tapered roller bearings, when you replace a bearing you keep the hub! if you think about ewhat you wrote the wheel doesn't sit on the hub already due to the rotor and a 1/4" spacer will make such a small difference in anythin like that it's not worth even thinking about, have run spacer on 3 different cars for clearance issues and no problems on any, one was a 2nd gen cav but that was just cos I thought the wheels didn't fill the fenders enough!

No the hub runs on the bearing. the hub is also otherwise known as the spindle and is just a pice of tubular hardened steel with splines indie for the driveshaft and a plate on the end with the lungs attached! the bearings are in two parts, dual race tapered roller bearings, when you replace a bearing you keep the hub! if you think about ewhat you wrote the wheel doesn't sit on the hub already due to the rotor and a 1/4" spacer will make such a small difference in anythin like that it's not worth even thinking about, have run spacer on 3 different cars for clearance issues and no problems on any, one was a 2nd gen cav but that was just cos I thought the wheels didn't fill the fenders enough!


Yes i know the hub is apart of the wheel bearing and what its made of. But i still think his rims have too much of an offset.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v633/bballjamal1/100_1578.jpg

here is a pic of 1/4" spacer on a j-body. Dosn't give a real good depth perception but still.. if it dosn't make that much of a difference, its not going to move those wheels of his out that much. Thus the spindle will still be poking out. THe ball is in that kids court.

Yes i know the hub is apart of the wheel bearing and what its made of. But i still think his rims have too much of an offset.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v633/bballjamal1/100_1578.jpg

here is a pic of 1/4" spacer on a j-body. Dosn't give a real good depth perception but still.. if it dosn't make that much of a difference, its not going to move those wheels of his out that much. Thus the spindle will still be poking out. THe ball is in that kids court.

In say mod the cap!

In say mod the cap!
how?

they didn't say cut the hub nut, he said CUT OFF THE EXCESS AXEL SHAFT, WICH IS PERFECTLY SAFE, and if done correctly, the threads will still be functional to do front end work....

what should i use to cut the hub and how should i do it

^^^^ Dremel tool

^^^^ Dremel tool

that would take a whole month!

Welding torch... or a pnematic tool with a diamond blade!