evo or sti which is better

Which do you think is a better car the evo or the sti?

sti's are slow and unreliable, evo's are alot better, but i prefer my mirage!

Neither is "better." its personal preference. since when is an STi slow? last time i checked 300hp was alot. anyway, they are both very capable and the general consensus seems to be "try them and pick which feels right" they are very similar. the STi is a little more demanding, "raw" if you will. The Evo Is more controlled. Personaly I would take the STi, but its pretty much a tie.

well after being in numerous STI's including the new 260kw special edition, and previously owned an evo 4, been in all evo's apart from the 8, the STI in my opinion gets left in the dust with all aspects. considering even the brand new STI's have the same gearbox problems as the earlier models. also the boxxer engine is a bitch to work on, especially to change the spark plugs. the evo is by far more user friendly and responds heaps better to modifications, let alone resale value is absolute crap when it comes to the subaru, i can go on if you like?

the evo is better because the sti is unreliable and the engine is to far over the wheels so you get understeer the evo u dont

besides the fact i just bought a 05 evo VIII.... if you look at all the reviews and comparisons of the 2 cars the evo 8 comes out on top every time. you can go back through 2-3 yrs of super street and read the comparisons and you will see the evo8 on top every time.

BUT i do have to say in looks wise though the sti is the better looking of the 2 fugly cars.

hey, you can't go wrong with a MITSUBISHI. gotta love that 4G63 power.

Evo = good in straight races
Sti = good in dirt and races with all type of corners

Evo win against the STi in a straight line but STi win in dirt and track races

Evo = good in straight races
Sti = good in dirt and races with all type of corners

Evo win against the STi in a straight line but STi win in dirt and track races


The evo's handeling is really the deciding point between the two cars. they are almost identical in power, and speed, the the evo corners and handels MUCH better then the sluggish STi. So...

STi= good in straigh races

Evo = better in twisties.

Also, the fact that the Evo is an I4 makes it a dream come true. For anyone that has ever rebuilt, or even worked on an engine knows that the Inline engine is fairly easy to work on, vs. a V or an boxer type engine.

I have raced an sti in my evo they are pretty much the same one race he beat me by half a car length and the next i beat him by half a car length i have also driven an sti they seem alot quicker but thats only bc of the gear ratio its a six speed evo 8 is a 5 speed but all in all i think they are both good cars.

The evo's handeling is really the deciding point between the two cars. they are almost identical in power, and speed, the the evo corners and handels MUCH better then the sluggish STi. So...

STi= good in straigh races

Evo = better in twisties.

Also, the fact that the Evo is an I4 makes it a dream come true. For anyone that has ever rebuilt, or even worked on an engine knows that the Inline engine is fairly easy to work on, vs. a V or an boxer type engine.

ah well, i'm not going to argue with you, I seen this in a video ( not a movie ). well it's more clear for me, thanks

i have driven both now and am totally confused. I thought i was a die hard evo fan, but now the STi is calling my name. THe dealer guy said the STi had much better awd system and handeling? is that true? from what i understand the evo was supposed to have better handeling, but then the dealer guy gave me all these reasons why the STi had better handeling. Is the dealer guy right, or is he totally biased?

it depends on what you want, subarus are more popular i think, but i would have an evo all day, much more for the money :grinyes:

i think both cars perform thesame, the evo takes it in looks and handling but if i was you i would go with the one that has the least insurance rates. what the hell, the performance are basicallythe same

Hmm this is a great question in a Lancer forum. I'd say most people in here are going to biased towards the Evo. If it were me, damn, i'd have to drive both. But right now, I think i'd have to take the Evo.

the Evo's AWD system adapts a little faster and is more variable but the STi's is stronger and has less drivetrain loss.

Neither car is particularly reliable and if you're seriously interested in buying a 300 hp 4 cylinder, reliability probably isn't one of your biggest concerns anyway.

the 4g63 has been around since the 90's while the boxer engine in the WRX came out later.
Mitsubishi has over 15 years of experience with the engine so looking back and learning from history the engine has much greater potential.
Plus cant forget the main factor STI = TMIC air comes in through a little ass slot cant cool too much most STI owners immediatly convert to a front mount and that requiesr more time while the evo comes straight with a FMIC.

plus if you have the MR edition that one has 6 gears also.

yeah six speed but a couple more hp, 6 i think. and a couple of grand more expensive than the 5speed. the mr is a total waste of money for what you get. the 4g63 had definitely come a long way

hi. nice to meet everyone. i am new to this forum since i am used to being in the honda forum. My wife got an EVO 8 yesterday and damn. This car is awsome to drive and we cant even punch it yet. she cant wait. she prefered the evo because of looks and sunroof. she is not a racer so extra weight was not a problem. her freind has an sti and i think both cars are up and up. she also liked the warranty, which was better than the sti.

yeah six speed but a couple more hp, 6 i think. and a couple of grand more expensive than the 5speed. the mr is a total waste of money for what you get. the 4g63 had definitely come a long way


Not really, the MR come with carbon wing and alumi roof which help save weight and reduce body roll.

Tests showed that the MR was indeed faster than the other Evo trims out there (either CAR or some other mag...had three Evos lines up, title was "Is $7500 worth it?" or similar. Sorry I can't find the exact reference right now.).

STis have always been sinfully ugly, and Evos have always been nicer looking than the two. And it's true...boxer engines are horrid to work with, whereas the simplicity of the 4G63 is a big plus. I think Mitsu needs to up the ante, since its milked the 2 ltr for all its worth. They should start working with a DOHC 2.4 now (turbo their 4g64).

Whether anyone wants to believe it or not, The Evolution out handles the STI on every level. It is a fact, not anyones opinion. The 4G63 has more potential for improvement then the EJ25 and seeing as how the EVO rules the drag strip at all the EVO vs. WRX shootouts, I can safely say that the EVO dominates. Stock for stock, they are about the same, even though the STI's hp output is more then the EVO. The EVO is just easier to unleash........

I like both of the car and I have driven both of the cars. I personally prefer the STI over the EVO VIII. For one I personally felt the STI was a little quicker. But the 2 things the sold me on the STI was 1) I though that the seats was more comfortable that the EVO, Also I liked the clutch alot better in the STI. I thought that there was too much petal on the clutch. Kind felt like I was driving a trunk the way I had shift it.

most evos got strut and tower bars, im not saying the sti's dont(do they? let me know) but it is something to consider

having driven both an 03 evo8, and an 05 STi, i prefer the raw power feel of the STi. i feel that the sti out-handles the evo especially in the twisties. i also like the idea of the VCCD and AYC/spot welds found in their respective models. both handle amazing, but i think the sti out handled the evo. the one thing i didnt like about the sti though, was that only the recaro sti seats were sold in japan. the new sti seats seem too stiff for me. i prefer the wrx seats over the USDM sti seats.

the 4g63 has been around since the 90's while the boxer engine in the WRX came out later.

it really doesnt matter how long an engine has been out, but how well it was developed. i think that alot of people underestimate the power of the boxer over an i4. DSM are very well known to have underhood, esp. in the eclipses.

....the MR come with carbon wing and alumi roof which help save weight.....

but the power windows/door locks/AC/full interior make up for it. "weight savings" really means nothing on a stock car. carbon fiber wing? metal trunk. aluminum roof? full interior. like i said, weight savings means nothing if you arent going all out. a carbon acessorie compared to a car that has FRP/carbon panels and a stripped interior.

she also liked the warranty, which was better than the sti.

actually it isnt. DSM is really cracking down on the warrenties, esp. the evo owners. if your vehicle shows any signs of abuse, or that you have been racing (even something as simple as needing a valve adjustment too early) your warrenty is automatically void. subaru is alittle bit more leanient towards their cars, as they were engineered for sport enthusiests and developed on the race track. subaru has always dominated WRC, but when watching last years WRC, i didnt see the mitsu car complete 2 stages in a row.

sti's are slow and unreliable, evo's are alot better, but i prefer my mirage!

read what i said above. subarus are much more reliable than mitsu....and thats speaking on a track record.

the evo is better because the sti is unreliable and the engine is to far over the wheels so you get understeer the evo u dont

this is coming from someone who types like they are twelve? aside from doubting youve drive any of these cars except in your dreams, theres a reason the boxer motor is over the wheels and much lower in the engine bay. it lowers the center of gravity of the car, making it more nimble compared to a normally placed I4.

and yes, this whole thing IS based on opinion. not fact. the fact of the matter is, that if you havent driven both cars to physically compare them together, your points are invalid. it doesnt matter how many super streets or sport compact cars or anything you read, because that is the authors opinions. it sounds like more than a few of you havent driven either, so dont bother with your two cents from what a magazine tells you. if you like the sti, great, if you like the evo better, great, it doesnt matter. its all about suiting the right car to the drivers driving attitude. which ever you are more comfortable driving, go for that choice.

Personally, I prefer the Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution. I have been in an 05 EVO 8 and I would say that the car has a lot of point-and-squirt power. I have not been in an STI, but my friend has a WRX with 325 whp. I would still take a factory EVO over his WRX. Personally, I think Mitsubishi is more reliable than Subaru.

Personally, I think Mitsubishi is more reliable than Subaru.
I have to disagree with u on that one. My buddy owns a 04'(I THINK)EVO VIII and his older brother has a 04' STI. My buddy has already had problems with hes EVO. I've driven both cars. I LOVE the looks of the EVO, it has a very aggresive look to it. However, I have to go with the STi. The STi seems to have a little more pep. Plus I feel that the STi handles better. Just my opinion. Disagree if you want thats just how i feel. :p

Hmm this is a great question in a Lancer forum. I'd say most people in here are going to biased towards the Evo. If it were me, damn, i'd have to drive both. But right now, I think i'd have to take the Evo.
I well cosidered both the Evo VIII MR and the STi. Firstly, the MRs are made in limited quantities, which appealed to me, and Subaruu will make as many STIs as they can sell. Secondly, The Subby has that silly box on the hood that is the "Scoop", and, it's rear wing looks like a Box Kite. I haven't met a STI that couldn't be beaten my my Evo8MR. Additionally, the Mitsu really is a much more attractive car. I don't hate Subbys, but I love kicking their asses.
Although it may seem as if Mitsubishi as a car company is experiencing some short term woes, they are a Japanese power company wity resources galore. They will endure and give us Evos to our hearts desire.
LONG LIVE AND KICK ASS WITH EVO.

Yes Techevo, Tell Preach The Truth Homeboi!!!!

the evo is better because the sti is unreliable and the engine is to far over the wheels so you get understeer the evo u dont

do u own one? or kno what your talking about? Evo has the engine furthur up front. 60/40 STi is closer to 50/50 and all 4WD's understeer.

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Subaru Vs Mitsubishi........ Very Hard !

As you can tell it's a basis of pure opinion. Get what you like. Drive em.

i'd say its a tie although im slightly leaning towards the sti

from what I understand the evo has a stiffer more race tuned sespension but the STi is way more comfortable to drive, and still holds pretty tight in the corners, so it really depends on how much vibration you can put up with. In the 1/4 mile the evo usualy has a slight advantage.

Both cars are about the same. I am extremely disappointed with the '06 STi, for the only changes were cosmetic (and they look like shit), while the Evo has made performance a priority (they're up to 286 hp now in the IX?) The Evo is much easier to work with, and I much prefer the hood of the Evo to the STi. The 6-speed tranny of the STi definately appeals to me (in my eyes, a sports car must have 6th gear). The MR option of the Evo does offer a 6-speed, but to get that option, you must fork over another $2k (which could be well-spent in mods to enhance the STi's performance). On the subject of mods (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong), but would you not be able to get more horse/torque out of a 2.5 liter than a 2.0? If that is the case, if money really isn't an issue, the STi would ultimately be able to out-perform the Evo. I believe the Evo beats the STi in 0-60, but STi beats Evo in the ¼-mile. The STi has an understeer problem, but can easily be fixed with a strut bar (few hundred $$). The Evo is a little bigger of a car (~1" height, ~4" length), so if you're tall like me, the Evo is a better choice. Also, you get 1-2mpg better gas mileage in the Evo. As other people have said, it's a personal preference. I live in upstate NY and I have seen many more Evos than STis, so I would rather get the vehicle that seems less common (plus, I think the Crystal Grey Metallic is the best paint option on the market right now).


When I mentioned about modding an STi, here's a TT/SC STi forum:
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=840806&page=1&pp=25

Subaru WRX going 207 [even though there isn't a radar gun for proof]:
http://www.evolicious.com/wildsubaru.html

Evos ar better :D

well I think the sti has a better turbo because no turbo lag but the evo has better handling so it out performs the sti. But when it comes to the evo 6. The evo 6 is the best car out there. With a 0-60 time of 4.5 sec and a quarter mile time of 12.9 sec at 106mph it is the best stock car
out there. One other thing. I saw a video of the new lancer evo 9 not from the u.s but from u.k the fq320 with 320 hp losing to the evo 6 276 bhp. That's how bad the evo 6 is. If you don't believe me go check out this website www.youtube.com and type evo. Then look for the video with evo9 vs. evo6 and u you will know which is best.

that EVO VI in the vid you're referring to had at least bolt-ons.

as for the discussion of the stock USDM STI vs. EVO....

the EVO IX is sweet. finally looks decent and the IX is probably the quickest jap car ever to hit US shores. The EVO still doesn't have AYC or other AWD functions that the STi has... like the ability to mess the the differential to make full-open (doughnuts and other such shenanigans) or full-lock (mud/snow). from what i have seen at the track (and the strip), STis are generally faster stock vs stock (ish).

interior-wise:
EVO has the seats, STi has the gauges.
reliability-wise:
EVO is pretty bulletproof. clutch made of glass is exaggerated but still inferior to the STi. also, 1st-2nd gear grind is common from what i hear.
04,05 STis are bulletproof except for 4th-5th gear grind.
06 STI has weak motor mounts as well.
don't launch and speed shift all the time and you'll be problem-free with eithe car.

overall, the EVO IX (any trim) and the STi (04,05,06) are a toss-up imo

Evo's are made of cheap quality parts as are many usdm mits. But on a track i would rely on the evo much more than an STI and it does look much better. just not sure of the dependability of the parts.