Swirl marks
EightyZ
03-23-2005, 11:32 AM
I have a 2000 Jetta that is black. It has a lot of swirl marks in it from the previous owner. I wax it religiously but I would really like to get the swirl marks out of the clear coat. Any suggestions on how to get them out and what brands to use? How many steps should I take? What should I use - wax, polish, glaze, abrasives, clay bars? And what order do i do them in? Thanks a lot guys!
Thepeug
03-24-2005, 01:37 AM
After washing the car, try some Meguire's paint cleaner, followed by Meguire's polish. Finally, wax with Zymol (if you have the money), or something cheap that's still of decent quality, like Turtle wax.
BullShifter
03-24-2005, 02:19 AM
Waxing alone isn't enough to remove swirls. It all depends how bad it is, being black it could be really bad. In that case your best off taking it to the pro's for the best finish. If it's not so bad Meguiars or Mothers multi steps work ok. Clay bars are a must after washing, before polish, glaze, or wax. They clean the paint like no other, making the later steps much easier.
This works great on black - http://www.topoftheline.com/tolae/32ozmidswirr.html
http://www.topoftheline.com/tolae/black-wax-carnauba.html
This works great on black - http://www.topoftheline.com/tolae/32ozmidswirr.html
http://www.topoftheline.com/tolae/black-wax-carnauba.html
Anthony Orosco
03-26-2005, 10:04 AM
Are you sure they are swirls, as in "buffer swirls" and not marring (also known as spider-webbing, halo-scratches)?
If they take on a 3D halogram type look, like a flowing ribbon, within your paint then you most likely have buffer swirls. These will need something more aggressive to remove then the marring marks.
Marring mark are introduced into your paint from washing and drying and can be many times removed with a orbital polisher, like the PC, and some mild (clear coat safe) polish. As already noted wax alone will do nothing for these marks, it may temporarily "fill" or hide the marks but that's it.
Buffer swirls are introduced into the paint with a high speed polisher and in many cases can only be removed with a high speed polisher, kinda like fighting fire with fire, but this time the job needs to be done properly. Contact a respected professional detailer in your area and have them evaluate your paint.
Anthony
If they take on a 3D halogram type look, like a flowing ribbon, within your paint then you most likely have buffer swirls. These will need something more aggressive to remove then the marring marks.
Marring mark are introduced into your paint from washing and drying and can be many times removed with a orbital polisher, like the PC, and some mild (clear coat safe) polish. As already noted wax alone will do nothing for these marks, it may temporarily "fill" or hide the marks but that's it.
Buffer swirls are introduced into the paint with a high speed polisher and in many cases can only be removed with a high speed polisher, kinda like fighting fire with fire, but this time the job needs to be done properly. Contact a respected professional detailer in your area and have them evaluate your paint.
Anthony
Anthony Orosco
03-26-2005, 10:21 AM
Here is a Porsche hood with "marring".....does your car look like this?
http://img11.exs.cx/img11/4885/bxstrmrng7ix.jpg
After polishing with Optimum Polish here are the results
http://img11.exs.cx/img11/4334/bxstrhd25um.jpg
http://img11.exs.cx/img11/6968/bxstaftrhd8qa.jpg
The initial polishing was done with a rotary then finished with a Cyclo.
Anthony
http://img11.exs.cx/img11/4885/bxstrmrng7ix.jpg
After polishing with Optimum Polish here are the results
http://img11.exs.cx/img11/4334/bxstrhd25um.jpg
http://img11.exs.cx/img11/6968/bxstaftrhd8qa.jpg
The initial polishing was done with a rotary then finished with a Cyclo.
Anthony
Markgase2000
03-27-2005, 02:23 AM
Paint marring is quite simple to fix and alot of the time it is easily fixed by hand with paint conditioners. That was an excellent photo demo Anthony.
TRACYCULBERSON
09-05-2005, 10:59 PM
I have a 2000 Jetta that is black. It has a lot of swirl marks in it from the previous owner. I wax it religiously but I would really like to get the swirl marks out of the clear coat. Any suggestions on how to get them out and what brands to use? How many steps should I take? What should I use - wax, polish, glaze, abrasives, clay bars? And what order do i do them in? Thanks a lot guys!
DUDE GET MEGUIARS #7 SEALER IT IS GREAT FOR THIS . THEN GET MEGUIARS # 26 YELLOW WAX THIS WILL SOLVE YOUR PROBLEMS
DUDE GET MEGUIARS #7 SEALER IT IS GREAT FOR THIS . THEN GET MEGUIARS # 26 YELLOW WAX THIS WILL SOLVE YOUR PROBLEMS
Anthony Orosco
09-06-2005, 06:08 PM
DUDE GET MEGUIARS #7 SEALER IT IS GREAT FOR THIS . THEN GET MEGUIARS # 26 YELLOW WAX THIS WILL SOLVE YOUR PROBLEMS
Sure #7 is a nice product but it will not "solve" any issues as it cannot correct the paint it just fills and hides the scratches and only light ones at that.
It is best to seek to correct the problem first and then hide any left over imperfections.
Anthony
Sure #7 is a nice product but it will not "solve" any issues as it cannot correct the paint it just fills and hides the scratches and only light ones at that.
It is best to seek to correct the problem first and then hide any left over imperfections.
Anthony
TRACYCULBERSON
09-06-2005, 09:58 PM
Sure #7 is a nice product but it will not "solve" any issues as it cannot correct the paint it just fills and hides the scratches and only light ones at that.
It is best to seek to correct the problem first and then hide any left over imperfections.
Anthony
LOOK GUYS IF U HAVE THE MONEY TO PAY A PERSON 2 DETAIL THE CAROR IF U HAVE THE KNOW HOW HERE IS WHAT U DO.
GET A SIDE HIGH SPEED BUFFER NOT ONE THOSE WAL-MART JOBS THAT REMOVE WAX. A HIGH SPEED, POLISHER/SANDER AND PRO MAKES POLISH THAT U USE TO BUFF WITH CALLED TROUBLE SHOOTER.
DO THAT THEN THE #7 AND #26 AND I WILL PROMISE THAT IF DONE RIGHT THEY WILL BE NO MARKS. I AM A C AR DEALER IN EAST TENNESSEE AND HAVE DONE MANY LET ME KNOW GUYS.
It is best to seek to correct the problem first and then hide any left over imperfections.
Anthony
LOOK GUYS IF U HAVE THE MONEY TO PAY A PERSON 2 DETAIL THE CAROR IF U HAVE THE KNOW HOW HERE IS WHAT U DO.
GET A SIDE HIGH SPEED BUFFER NOT ONE THOSE WAL-MART JOBS THAT REMOVE WAX. A HIGH SPEED, POLISHER/SANDER AND PRO MAKES POLISH THAT U USE TO BUFF WITH CALLED TROUBLE SHOOTER.
DO THAT THEN THE #7 AND #26 AND I WILL PROMISE THAT IF DONE RIGHT THEY WILL BE NO MARKS. I AM A C AR DEALER IN EAST TENNESSEE AND HAVE DONE MANY LET ME KNOW GUYS.
Thepeug
09-07-2005, 02:21 AM
LOOK GUYS IF U HAVE THE MONEY TO PAY A PERSON 2 DETAIL THE CAROR IF U HAVE THE KNOW HOW HERE IS WHAT U DO.
GET A SIDE HIGH SPEED BUFFER NOT ONE THOSE WAL-MART JOBS THAT REMOVE WAX. A HIGH SPEED, POLISHER/SANDER AND PRO MAKES POLISH THAT U USE TO BUFF WITH CALLED TROUBLE SHOOTER.
DO THAT THEN THE #7 AND #26 AND I WILL PROMISE THAT IF DONE RIGHT THEY WILL BE NO MARKS. I AM A C AR DEALER IN EAST TENNESSEE AND HAVE DONE MANY LET ME KNOW GUYS.
CAPITAL LETTERS ARE THE WRITTEN EQUIVALENT OF SHOUTING. UNLESS YOU WANT TO ADD EMPHASIS TO A WORD OR YOU'RE REALLY ANGRY, please refrain from constant capitalization.
GET A SIDE HIGH SPEED BUFFER NOT ONE THOSE WAL-MART JOBS THAT REMOVE WAX. A HIGH SPEED, POLISHER/SANDER AND PRO MAKES POLISH THAT U USE TO BUFF WITH CALLED TROUBLE SHOOTER.
DO THAT THEN THE #7 AND #26 AND I WILL PROMISE THAT IF DONE RIGHT THEY WILL BE NO MARKS. I AM A C AR DEALER IN EAST TENNESSEE AND HAVE DONE MANY LET ME KNOW GUYS.
CAPITAL LETTERS ARE THE WRITTEN EQUIVALENT OF SHOUTING. UNLESS YOU WANT TO ADD EMPHASIS TO A WORD OR YOU'RE REALLY ANGRY, please refrain from constant capitalization.
Scottsdetail
09-10-2005, 07:01 AM
Black Peral works wonders on black paint or any other dark color with swirls
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