91 Voyager heater blower replacment help
mdhbhouse
03-22-2005, 09:30 PM
This has got to be one of the most difficult things to get at unless I am going about it all wrong.
Based on my heater working, then not working, hit a bump and it's working again scenario I figured the easiest thing to change would be the blower motor. (Mostly because I've done that before on another car and it wasn't too difficult).
Now I've got my head upside down under the passenger side compartment tearing apart the dash because I can't seem to get the stupid thing out and I barely fit between the passenger seat and the firewall!!!
Anyway suffice to say I find this job absurdly difficult and just wanted to make sure I'm not missing some easy steps.
It seems like if I could get the passenger side panel off I could get at things easier but it seems to be stuck somewhere behind the little cubby slot in the midle below the radio and heater section.
Anyone, anyone... Buehler?
Based on my heater working, then not working, hit a bump and it's working again scenario I figured the easiest thing to change would be the blower motor. (Mostly because I've done that before on another car and it wasn't too difficult).
Now I've got my head upside down under the passenger side compartment tearing apart the dash because I can't seem to get the stupid thing out and I barely fit between the passenger seat and the firewall!!!
Anyway suffice to say I find this job absurdly difficult and just wanted to make sure I'm not missing some easy steps.
It seems like if I could get the passenger side panel off I could get at things easier but it seems to be stuck somewhere behind the little cubby slot in the midle below the radio and heater section.
Anyone, anyone... Buehler?
bully515
03-28-2005, 07:26 PM
my blower stop working also, I would love to know how i can access it... please help! 91 grand voyager thanks :)
mdhbhouse
03-28-2005, 11:03 PM
Same guy that posted this message so not an official 'how to' but I did get it replaced. If I could have gotten the passenger side panel off I'm sure this would have been eaiser but I couldn't get it. Even if I had been able to remove the panel there are I think seven screws that hold the motor in place and those screws are very tought to get at. I ended up getting a flexible shart that I could attach a 5/16" socket (I think) on to be able to get at the screws at the back. This has got to be the most frustrating parts I've ever had to replace (just not enough room for me to get at it properly). I did end up removing a bolt on the passenger side wall that kind of holds the main metal housing that the panels screw into in place. That gave me just enough room to wiggle the motor out.
So suffice to say it can be done but there may be a better way to get access to it.
As an fyi, I picked up a universal motor which didn't some with any clip on the end so I had to cut the wires and use some crimp on connectors to make it work. So far it works and I have heat again so after a far bit of cursing I'm happy and (for now) I'm done with it.
If you want more detailed steps I can post them.
So suffice to say it can be done but there may be a better way to get access to it.
As an fyi, I picked up a universal motor which didn't some with any clip on the end so I had to cut the wires and use some crimp on connectors to make it work. So far it works and I have heat again so after a far bit of cursing I'm happy and (for now) I'm done with it.
If you want more detailed steps I can post them.
bully515
03-29-2005, 08:55 AM
thanks alot! can i get more detailed info on this?
mdhbhouse
03-31-2005, 09:41 PM
Sorry for the delayed response. Goes something like this:
1. Open the glovebox and remove the screws that hold it in place.
2. Remove screw on right hand side of the passenger panel that is only accessible with the door open.
3. Remove the door trim piece that runs along the floor board (as you need to get access to the bolt that anchors the main metal piece that runs the lenght of the dash).
4. Squeeze yourself between the passenger seat and the passenger panel and remove the plastic trim pice underneath.
5. Start removing screws that holds the passenger piece in place along the bottom.
I removed almost all of the main dashboard panelling that I could as I was hoping to remove the passenger side so I could get at it but I was never successfull and getting it to release (seemed to be stuck somewhere in the middle). So I'm not sure what all your NEED to remove but I removed the trim around the middle trunk release, rear fan and radio stuff. I also removed all of those screws so it was all fairly loose which I think may have allowed me to pull the passenger panel out enough so I could squeeze the blower motor out eventually but again you may not have to.
6. Tough step. You have limited access to the hex screws that hold the blower motor in place. Some are at the back by the firewall and a straight socket and screwdriver won't reach them. I bought a flexible shaft that I could attach to my drill and put a socket on the end. There are also about 3 along the front and they are a little easier to get at but stil tough. I almost thought about taking the passenger seat out to give me some room.
7. If you make it the motor should now be loose and will start to drop out. Where it will get caught is on the fan assembly attached to the motor so you will need to convince the panelling to give you a little more room and this is where I removed that bolt that secures the main metal bar to the passenger side of the van.
You should also have a good light source so you can at least try and see what you are doing.
8. If you can get the motor out disconnect the electrical clip (maybe the right thing to do here is to have previously disconnected the battery just to be safe but whatever).
9. Now you just have to remove the fan assembly from the motor, remove the motor from the housing, cut the feed, install the new motor, crimp back on the connector and away you go!
10. Easy right?
11. Now just reverse all the above steps and see how many screws you feel like putting back in.
Good luck.
1. Open the glovebox and remove the screws that hold it in place.
2. Remove screw on right hand side of the passenger panel that is only accessible with the door open.
3. Remove the door trim piece that runs along the floor board (as you need to get access to the bolt that anchors the main metal piece that runs the lenght of the dash).
4. Squeeze yourself between the passenger seat and the passenger panel and remove the plastic trim pice underneath.
5. Start removing screws that holds the passenger piece in place along the bottom.
I removed almost all of the main dashboard panelling that I could as I was hoping to remove the passenger side so I could get at it but I was never successfull and getting it to release (seemed to be stuck somewhere in the middle). So I'm not sure what all your NEED to remove but I removed the trim around the middle trunk release, rear fan and radio stuff. I also removed all of those screws so it was all fairly loose which I think may have allowed me to pull the passenger panel out enough so I could squeeze the blower motor out eventually but again you may not have to.
6. Tough step. You have limited access to the hex screws that hold the blower motor in place. Some are at the back by the firewall and a straight socket and screwdriver won't reach them. I bought a flexible shaft that I could attach to my drill and put a socket on the end. There are also about 3 along the front and they are a little easier to get at but stil tough. I almost thought about taking the passenger seat out to give me some room.
7. If you make it the motor should now be loose and will start to drop out. Where it will get caught is on the fan assembly attached to the motor so you will need to convince the panelling to give you a little more room and this is where I removed that bolt that secures the main metal bar to the passenger side of the van.
You should also have a good light source so you can at least try and see what you are doing.
8. If you can get the motor out disconnect the electrical clip (maybe the right thing to do here is to have previously disconnected the battery just to be safe but whatever).
9. Now you just have to remove the fan assembly from the motor, remove the motor from the housing, cut the feed, install the new motor, crimp back on the connector and away you go!
10. Easy right?
11. Now just reverse all the above steps and see how many screws you feel like putting back in.
Good luck.
dno36
03-31-2005, 09:43 PM
An easier way..........there is none.
These blower motors sukkkk. Trust me they do.
You need a really good double 1/4" universal. If I remember right, it is a 9 m.m. The upper right one is a real pisser. Once you figure out how to twist it in and out, you'll be a pro, but until then, you may invent a few new words. You can do it. Just get a real good light source you can plant up in the dash and be persistant.
GL
DNO.
These blower motors sukkkk. Trust me they do.
You need a really good double 1/4" universal. If I remember right, it is a 9 m.m. The upper right one is a real pisser. Once you figure out how to twist it in and out, you'll be a pro, but until then, you may invent a few new words. You can do it. Just get a real good light source you can plant up in the dash and be persistant.
GL
DNO.
dno36
03-31-2005, 09:47 PM
Excellent post mdhb, we must have been typing at the same time.
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