Interesting Topic

I don't know if this has been posted before but this sounds like an interesting article. Has anybody heard of this or tried something like it heres the link




http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showthread.php?t=143848

Well, I don't like the domain name (time bomb) :), but from what I know about chemicals, it could very well work. I'm going to put my truck on a 4-gas analyzer tomorrow and see what the HC count is. Then I'll put in the acetone and check again. I don't want to put very much in, I'll do it with about 2 gallons of gas left. If the HCs don't drop like the article said, I'll assume it's fake and drain the remainder of the tank. If it works, I'll fill the tanks and let you know what I see.

Oh, and when I said "from what I know about chemicals, it could very well work", I was being a bit facetious. I could probably put all my knowledge of chemicals into one paragraph, if I put lots of "spacer" words in.

Thanks for the article.

P.S. You owe me an engine if mine blows from this experiment! hehe, J/K.

i'm surprised know one else responded to this i'll wait and see your results with it if i were you i'd put a little bit of gas in a can with about 2 ozs of the stuff and shake it and then pour it in and see what happens thanks for trying any other comments

Actually i messed up if you only have about 2 gallons i would only add maybe an ounce i think it'd be better if you had about 10 gallons and added about 3 to 5 ounces

Well, I didn't have time to stop and get the acetone this morning for testing. However, on the way home I saw a gas stations sign and decided to just go for it without cautious testing first. If prices get much higher, I'll be walking anyway :(, so what's a blown engine if I can't afford to drive it, right?

So... I stopped at Walgreens to get a bottle. I was barely over 1/2 tank on the guage. I put in just over 3 ounces for around 9 gallons of gas. I switched to the other tank (I've got dual tanks), and drove around taking turns fast, swerving and taking the bumpiest roads I could find to get it mixed in good. I switched over to the tank with the acetone in it and drove for 22 miles. Normally at mid-tank, I get 10-12 miles per 1/8 tank. That's if I drive normally. I was driving through town going WFO from stop signs, and I actually noticed a slight increase in power. I even chirped the tires once, which my truck hasn't done since I screwed up the carb. In the 22 miles I drove since I started on that tank, I used at most 1/8 of a tank (on the guage).

I would say I doubled my mileage. Keep in mind that I have an old carb that is not adjusted right, and has JB weld stuck on some linkage. Also, the "about an 1/8th of a tank" method isn't exactly the most scientific way to measure, but I can't afford to fill 'er up till payday. I'm going offroading on Saturday, so I likely won't be able to calculate the gas mileage for another 2 weeks.

For anyone wondering, a 16oz. bottle of 100% pure acetone was $2.09. The gallons are around $8 (if I remember right). When I run out fo the 16oz. bottle, I'm going to refill it from a gallon. The small bottle is just much easier to pour out of, and it's clear so you can see how much you've poured in. I marked ounces on the outside of mine with a marker.

My engine didn't blow up or make any weird sounds, although it sounded better. It may have just been because it was a bit warmer today and I had the rear window open. It also lowered the coolant temp very slightly... or maybe a lot depending on how much it rose today due to the higher ambient temperature. It moved about half the needles width down, but I didn't notice till I was almost home, and I can't afford to drive around all day (takes quite a while for the temp to rise or lower).

I would recomend that everyone start using acetone in their gas. I'll post again if I have any problems

Glad to see someone did it i'm going to try in the next few days but mines an 88 fuel injected i hope that won't make any diffrence i'll let you all know. Surely more people are interested in this

Probably won't be as high of a percent gain as I got, since the fuel injectors spray the fuel more precisely and more efficiently. Acetone is petroleum based, so I don't see how it would be bad for fuel system components or sensors.

acetone eats some plastics. I use a lot of it at work for cleaning fiberglass. some of the parts we install are plastic and it eats them right away.

i would use care when trying this you could do some damage.

Yeah but thats probably in 100% form with this 3 ozs per 10 gallons is only like .3 %. I really don't know but from the article they said that they soaked alot of stuff in it and hardly nothing happened

From the article:
"Add in tiny amounts from about one part per 5000 to one part per 500, depending on the vehicle -- just a few ounces per ten gallons of gas. This comes to between 0.075% and 0.350% acetone"

Also, gasoline would probably disolve the same plastics as the acetone does.

i'm not an expert on chemicals but if acetone is as good as it sounds then why wouldn't it already be added to gas at the refinery? most things you add to your gas tank will screw up something be it valves, reings, brearings, sparkplugs, catalytic converter, injectors or a number of other things. sure acetone might increase performance but where does it come from? it might wash oil off the cylinder walls reducing friction but at what cost? scorched pistons, increased ring& cylinder wear? what if it gets into the oil and thins it out enough that a bearing locks up and spins in it's bore. and what about valve seals? is it worth it to get a few more mpg's if your heads need to be rebuilt? i don't recomend adding acetone to your car just as i don't recomend doing cocaine or speed. sure the short term effects might seem great but by the time you figure out the long term effects it's too late.

Most likely the biggest reason it's not mixed in at the refineries is because it will give us better gas mileage. Same reasons candy companies don't say anything about obesity, or tobacco companies about cancer. Corporate greed.

It's possible that it will damage my engine over time, but I'd rather take my heads to a machine shop every few years than give almost $100 (that's about what I spend on gas, I know much less than that goes to them) a month to middle east countries who give that money to some crazy guy who comes over here and tries to kill my friends and family. They are raping us, then killing us. I'd rather give several hundred dollars to someone who lives in my town, than to pay them to kill me. What I'm really looking forward to is 100% ethanol or biodiesel. Many new cars can run on 85% ethanol (15% well-head gas is to induce vomiting if it is drank), but could run on 100%. Yea, I know, I got off topic, but I will be very happy the day osama goes back to chasing camels.

Back to the acetone! One of the guys currently researching it (the one who wrote the article), has been using it in his vehicles since 1950. B12 Chemtool is 80% acetone (couldn't find concrete source, but that number is floating around online)

Interesting read. If you read all of the related articles, and links you'll see that they mention some other chemicals such as Xylene, Toluene, Benzene, and Ethanol. With the exception of ethanol, they are, for the most part, carcinogens, and nerve toxins. There should be no question as to why these substances aren't used in gas stocks. They are just too toxic!

http://www.jtbaker.com/msds/englishhtml/A0446.htm
^MSDS^

Excerpts:
"500 ppm (TWA), 750 ppm (STEL) A4 - not classifiable as a human carcinogen"

"When released into the soil, this material is expected to readily biodegrade. When released into the soil, this material is expected to leach into groundwater. When released into the soil, this material is expected to quickly evaporate. When released into water, this material is expected to readily biodegrade. When released to water, this material is expected to quickly evaporate. This material has a log octanol-water partition coefficient of less than 3.0. This material is not expected to significantly bioaccumulate. When released into the air, this material may be moderately degraded by reaction with photochemically produced hydroxyl radicals. When released into the air, this material may be moderately degraded by photolysis. When released into the air, this material is expected to be readily removed from the atmosphere by wet deposition.
Environmental Toxicity:
This material is not expected to be toxic to aquatic life. The LC50/96-hour values for fish are over 100 mg/l."

The "when released" part is in it's liquid form. When it's burned, the only harmful biproduct is carbon monoxide, which is present in exhaust anyway.

I started a thread in the Fuel Economy forum, so non C/K drivers can benefit also. http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbu...ad.php?t=385048, please use that thread for any further comments/questions/results

The MSDS sheet mentions some things that you didn't copy and paste:
AFFECTS CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM is just one.