02 Z28 Vs. 97 T/a

I was just wondering what kind of race the trans am would give the camaro and who would win. Both cars are stock but the camaro is automatic and the trans am is manual???????

The 02 Z28 would win.

how bad would it win or just by a little bit

What type of race are you talking about, light to light. 1/4 mile, to 60 ,what?

man u are asking about an lt1 vs an ls1, thats like me in my....well we wont go there. hands down the ls1 is gonna whop that trans am every time if they are both stock. the hp difference is a good difference going from one to the other.

Despite what most people think LS1 don't eat LT1's. 1/4 mile hands down the LS1 will take it pretty easy but 0-60 is a driver's race for LT1's and LS1's. Horsepower wise there is a 50 Horsepower difference. that equates to about 5 tenths in the 1/4 which is a pretty big margin.

John

but john's lt1 will murder a ls1, right john(still swinging from nuts so i can get on the list lol)

doesnt the 02 z28 have a ls1 also?

93-97 Were LT1's , 98-02 Were LS1's

doesnt the 02 z28 have a ls1 also?
That is the LS1 car. The 1997 Trans Am is an LT1 car.

Down low, LT1 cars can hang with LS1 cars, but once you start getting speed, the better flowing heads allow much more flow, and the LS1 car starts pulling decent.

wait, nevermind. i just re-read the title.

doesnt the 02 z28 have a ls1 also?
umm, yeah..but the 97 A/T has an LT1

so u guys are saying the camaro ould start pulling away at like 100??? or around there.

so im guessing the Trans has about 270 horse and the camaro is pushing 310

Dyno's show around 240-250 at the wheels on LT1's and around 280-300 on LS1's. Which means most LT1's have between 285-300 at the crank and LS1's have 320-340.

John

in a race you wont be looking so good at all...dont get anyones hopes high that they are gonna almost beat a ls1 in a lt1 car stock for stock and saying that both drivers are about the same. if your lt1 was built "on a good day" im sure you will do ok but the power between the 2 cars are large, we are not talking about just 20hp its like 50. if that were true, then i would be damn near next to a lt1 in my 3800 without the bottle. now how insaine does that sound? we know thats not happening. that ls1 will start pulling on you from the door, u will launch, look over and start seeing that ls1 make its move ahead, u are at 60 in like what 5 sec. your done within 7 sec of the race.

one of my friends has a 97 TA, another has a 95 camaro, the camaro woops the TA every time. For some reason the TA is alot slower, about 2 to 3 car links in the quarter mile. they are both supposed to have the exact same motor, but they sure don't run like it. they are both completely stock also.

one of my friends has a 97 TA, another has a 95 camaro, the camaro woops the TA every time. For some reason the TA is alot slower, about 2 to 3 car links in the quarter mile. they are both supposed to have the exact same motor, but they sure don't run like it. they are both completely stock also.

Shit happens, there are to many variables to account for the losing of the TA. Some cars are freakishly fast and some are freakishly slow. Just cause 2 cars have the same engine it doesnt mean they will be identical altho they should they won't. I know a guy with a 97 Z28 that has not ever won a race thats the slowest LT1 i have ever been in. Phillly Rs is right LT1 might hang thru first gear but after that the LS1 will start to pull but again the LS1 could be a freakishly slow one, u just never know.

Believe it or not, the LS1 and the LT1 aren't as far apart, stock-to-stock
as people think. With both cars stock running 100%, the 6spd T/A
should run 14.0 at 99 in which the '02 auto should pull atleast 13.8/101.
Despite the LT1 being closer than you think, the LS1, even with the auto, should still be the victor.

Believe it or not, the LS1 and the LT1 aren't as far apart, stock-to-stock
as people think. With both cars stock running 100%, the 6spd T/A
should run 14.0 at 99 in which the '02 auto should pull atleast 13.8/101.
Despite the LT1 being closer than you think, the LS1, even with the auto, should still be the victor.

they're actually farther apart than that. the average lt1 ran about a 14.2-14.4. some did get as low as 14 and i have heard of a couple scraping a high 13 stock. but 13.8 is one of the slowest times gotten from ls1's. average ls1's run 13.2-13.5 and some have even gotten as low as 12.6 (no shit). besides, in a drag race the auto tranny is not a hinderance, but an advantage.

ls1, no doubt will win, in any kind of race i'm sure of it. god love 'em, but lt1's dont stand a chance stock for stock. now, i must add that it doesn't take many mods to make an lt1 keep up :evillol:

this sounds like they lt1 guys in my club running their lip to the ls1 guys,even though they all have well over 4oohp in their cars, i dont care what any lt1 guy says, that engine cant hang with the ls1, bottom line, and im a v6 guy and im more in touch with whats real in life. if thats true then like i stated im gonna go ahead and say my rs when it was stock could hang with an lt1, now if anyone in here beleaves that statement i just made ill sell u the title to the fountain of youth and the brooklyn bridge that i have...smh. now what is true is that the trans am is a bit slower than the camaro..why? i havent the clue but everyone i know with ws6's tell me that as well, and also no 2 cars are the same, everything depends on what day your car came off that line, and what was the condition and mood of the people putting that car together on that day as well. ive seen 2 cars built the same with all the same mods, and worked on by the same people,good work, and one car runs 70 more horses than the other, its all on the day it was made, it could have been a good one or it may have been a bad one.

LT1 cars have some really restrictive parts on them from the factory, specifically ls1 exhaust manifolds are way less restrictive than lt1s also, heads, and air intake

thats a good point lt1 man...yeah what he said lol. but really im not putting down lt1's hell the damn thing came faster than mines was but the ls1 vs lt1 is gonna end the same way unless the ls1 has a major defect, or that lt1 got built on a day some dude got lucky the night before with 3 fly chicks and had a champion style day at the plant and made the best lt1 ever..bottom line.

After market wise the LT1 has just as much if not more potentional than a LS1. Your type of thinking is crazy cause I eat up LS1's all day. The LT1 also has a stronger bottom end. Sure from the factory the LS1 is a beast but the LT1 with very little work such as cai , headers and gears will take a LS1. Now throw in the ease of modding and factor in that they are cheaper to mod and your point is invalid.

Also there is not 70 horse difference. Dyno's show at most 50 horse between the 2.

John

I have owned both, the lt1 has a way better bottom end torque wise, from my cars.Example I could put it in 2nd and not touch the gas and go up hill(lt1).I cant even get my ls1 to keep going in second without giving it some gas
I would say it is a driver race until about 75mph.

easiest way to determine who would win:

look at power-to-weight ratios.
go to autos.msn.com and look up the specs... the higher ratio wins (if you put weight-to-power, the lower ratio wins). this is just in general.

the gear ratios matter to, but most stockers are pretty close in gear ratios.

obviously, it's not exact cause there are so many other factors but, power to weight ratios will always give you a good idea of who hits the finish line first.

In this case the Camaro wins.

this sounds like they lt1 guys in my club running their lip to the ls1 guys,even though they all have well over 4oohp in their cars, i dont care what any lt1 guy says, that engine cant hang with the ls1, bottom line, and im a v6 guy and im more in touch with whats real in life. if thats true then like i stated im gonna go ahead and say my rs when it was stock could hang with an lt1, now if anyone in here beleaves that statement i just made ill sell u the title to the fountain of youth and the brooklyn bridge that i have...smh. now what is true is that the trans am is a bit slower than the camaro..why? i havent the clue but everyone i know with ws6's tell me that as well, and also no 2 cars are the same, everything depends on what day your car came off that line, and what was the condition and mood of the people putting that car together on that day as well. ive seen 2 cars built the same with all the same mods, and worked on by the same people,good work, and one car runs 70 more horses than the other, its all on the day it was made, it could have been a good one or it may have been a bad one.

Honestly bro i think u got it backwards, on paper the TA is faster than the Z28 and the WS6 is faster than the SS, by a very small margin but it consistant. In real life there are to many variables. I have never lost to TA or WS6 ive beat both but ive seen other camaros lose to them.

i beat a friend of mine's bone stock m6 02 Z28 in my 94 LT1 camaro when i only had cold air intake and flowmaster muffler.