So much for a New Camaro...

The RWD Zeta platform which much speculation had been attached to the return of the Camaro has been cancelled by GM for all N. american markets.

http://www.detnews.com/2005/autosinsider/0503/21/A01-123402.htm

those pos fgt munchers. they dont know what they are doing

:angryfire: ... :swear:

leave it to a mustang guy to come in here and deliver the dookie news...thanks gtstang. im trying hard to remember that old saying, dont shoot the messenger because he didnt do it

::lowers gun:: damnit... good point.... I...still... ::throws gun at GM:: bastards!!!!

i know i told some guys yesterday at the shop that i would worry about rebuilding my engine and hold off on getting that ls1 since in 2007 or 8 a new camaro was comming out thats only a few years away, i was gonna start saving for the damn thing but as usual i spoke too damn soon! we got the monkey and they didnt even lub us up first,smh.

Yea sorry guys.... I dunno what GM or Lutz is thinking.... especially to help speed up the SUV/Truck releases?!?!?!

Did GM not notice thet 30% drop of SUV/Truck sales in N. America over the last 6 months which with gas prices looking to be even more in the horizon dropping sales even more?!?!?


Also what about the GTO.... the only semi-cool car GM makes besides the Vette was going to be switched to the Zeta platform with a whole new design. What now for that car?

its gonna die like the camaro, i hate gm for real! everytime i go to chevy to get something they have the nerve to ask me do i wanna trade my camaro for something new, and im thinking for what a f**king cobalt? or i know maybe i have 30 grand or more laying in my ass for a vett,yeah right. they suck im not buying anything else from them i sware on everything i own and love,that was the biggest let down yet!! i would get a gto but i really dont like it and if i cant get what i want im not giving them a dime of my money, ford gets a new mustang, hell everyone else got new cool ass cars and what did the gm group get us?? a non vassalined dildo with a one way ticket going where, up the old poop shoot....thanks again gm what would we do without you

I don't care what they say to the press. I would still bet money we have a new Camaro by 2010. Watch!. If I was trying to keep everything hush ,hush. I would give the press bogus info too. Just my :2cents:

PS- Gtstang love the new sig :lol:

its gonna die like the camaro, i hate gm for real! everytime i go to chevy to get something they have the nerve to ask me do i wanna trade my camaro for something new, and im thinking for what a f**king cobalt? or i know maybe i have 30 grand or more laying in my ass for a vett,yeah right. they suck im not buying anything else from them i sware on everything i own and love,that was the biggest let down yet!! i would get a gto but i really dont like it and if i cant get what i want im not giving them a dime of my money, ford gets a new mustang, hell everyone else got new cool ass cars and what did the gm group get us?? a non vassalined dildo with a one way ticket going where, up the old poop shoot....thanks again gm what would we do without you


I hear ya man Ford at least after dropping the Lighting has come out with a new Sport-Trac truck that has the 4.6 S/C Cobra motor, 6-speed auto, and AWD!

That is just to tide us over until after the new Cobra comes out and they then have the time they need to do a New Lighting.

damn you mustang man, bearer of bad news

im gonna have to get a mustang, either that or i go back to the wounderful world of inports...maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan! thats just great! what the hell am i talking about, i owned a mustang, and a eclipse i aint going back, ill just dump all my money into what i have and get me a ls1 ss when i find one

That's funny cause when i was talking to the local GM rep he was under the impression that the new RWD platform was coming out in 06/07... And Lutz himself said that the GTO would be completely it's own car by 06, i wouldn't give up on GM just yet people.

hey KaotiKCamaro5, got any more pictures of that awesome camaro you got? that thing looks sweet!

the end justifies the means. article said new rear-wheel drive vehicles would be delayed by only a year, in reality maybe two or three. that puts us round 2010 (formula). anyways, GM is just doing what they think they need to do to compete with other manufacturers. ill sacrifice a new maro for the well being of all things general motors. plus, i heard that the SS concept was the underlaying of the new camaro (dont know if its true, but if you guys have seen the SS in person you would not be sad at it being cancelled). i have faith in lutz, he's got something up his sleeve...

This is some of what I've gathered.
Zeta chassis has been canceled due to several reaons.
One big reason is that why have Zeta, spend the money and all that for a inferior chassis, when Sigma is already paid for?

the cars on Zeta are canceled for now...Lutz even leaked it...but here is what he said in his blog.


By Bob Lutz
GM Vice Chairman

Some news broke today about a reshuffling of our product plan, and I just want to clear one thing up before people get carried away.

Yes, we have canceled our plans to build rear-wheel-drive vehicles off the Zeta architecture. But that does not mean we've canceled plans to build rear-drive vehicles altogether.

We did not cancel the Zeta plans to save money, or to divert funds elsewhere that would've been used for product development.

We are simply reallocating resources (human and financial) to pull some other programs ahead and get other vehicles to market sooner. The press speculates this means we're doing it to get our next-generation large SUVs and pickups out sooner. You could see how one might reasonably come to such a conclusion.

Rest assured, we remain committed to developing RWD, premium,
high-performance, affordable vehicles, perhaps even a few with a trace of nostalgia baked in.

This is basically from GM Insider

screw the camaro, they cancelled the only hope for Buick performance.... Damn



Anyway, I seem to remember posting something about "don't beleive it untill you see it." :uhoh:

yea that Velite looked promising..

yeah so come on in and jump on the gm i got screwed boat, we have alot of room onboard!

By Bob Lutz
GM Vice Chairman


We did not cancel the Zeta plans to save money, or to divert funds elsewhere that would've been used for product development.

We are simply reallocating resources (financial) to pull some other programs ahead...

Wait... what?