Beat by a SRT/4, It was so close though
1993_GT
03-21-2005, 12:41 PM
I was on the way back from the range last night when this red Dodge Neon SRT/4 with a huge wing and fart cans blow by me like I was standing still. So I hammer the accelerator and catch up with him at the next light. The car has a huge tach on the dash and all the guages on the piller so I figure this is going to be a good race. I am on his passenger side and I look over at him and he looks over at me and smiles, we both know what will happen next. The light changes and I shift into first and beat him off the line with little problem, I shift to second and I notice he is pulling on me by the time, I hit third we are door to door and he pulls on me by about a half a car length. I hit fourth, but was still a half a car behind and could not surpass him. So he has me beat. I shut it down and slow to the next light. We had transversed about a half a mile or so before I acknowledge my defeat and slow it down. I pull up next to him at the next light and I start to roll down my window to congratulet him on a good race and for beating me fairly. When he rolls his down and yells over to me "That's right you just got beat by a four cylinder homee" I was like WTF!! What an ass this guy is so I just roll my window back up and ignore him. The light changes and he tears away from the light like he wanted to race again. I just let him go and not waste my gas. :nono:
Why are some people such asses...
Anyway it was a fair race and I was beat by a faster car and maybe a better driver as well... Just don't be an ass about it you know. I mean when I beat someone I don't make any negative remarks about how I slaughtered you in the race.. I just don't get ricers...
Why are some people such asses...
Anyway it was a fair race and I was beat by a faster car and maybe a better driver as well... Just don't be an ass about it you know. I mean when I beat someone I don't make any negative remarks about how I slaughtered you in the race.. I just don't get ricers...
93rollaracer
03-21-2005, 12:54 PM
Nice death...I almost made the mistake of racing an SRT-4 right after they came out. I thought it was a body kitted neon until I pulled up behind it (BTW I drive a 93 Corolla with IHE).
And are you sure it wasn't just the stock exhaust? I'm not much of a Dodge guy, but I thought the SRT-4's didn't have mufflers. I could be wrong though...
And are you sure it wasn't just the stock exhaust? I'm not much of a Dodge guy, but I thought the SRT-4's didn't have mufflers. I could be wrong though...
youngvr4
03-21-2005, 12:58 PM
i got beat by a integra once and the guy was a real ass, and real cocky. i've never been like that.
1993_GT
03-21-2005, 01:03 PM
Nice death...I almost made the mistake of racing an SRT-4 right after they came out. I thought it was a body kitted neon until I pulled up behind it (BTW I drive a 93 Corolla with IHE).
And are you sure it wasn't just the stock exhaust? I'm not much of a Dodge guy, but I thought the SRT-4's didn't have mufflers. I could be wrong though...
Well It did have two exhaust pipes sticking out from under the rear bumber and it sounded like every other fart can exhaust... With a unmistakable sound of the Turbo...
How fast are these cars anyway... Seems like they are quite respectable on the street and I would guess the track as well...
And are you sure it wasn't just the stock exhaust? I'm not much of a Dodge guy, but I thought the SRT-4's didn't have mufflers. I could be wrong though...
Well It did have two exhaust pipes sticking out from under the rear bumber and it sounded like every other fart can exhaust... With a unmistakable sound of the Turbo...
How fast are these cars anyway... Seems like they are quite respectable on the street and I would guess the track as well...
chexmixa
03-21-2005, 01:31 PM
Well It did have two exhaust pipes sticking out from under the rear bumber and it sounded like every other fart can exhaust... With a unmistakable sound of the Turbo...
How fast are these cars anyway... Seems like they are quite respectable on the street and I would guess the track as well...
The factory exhaust on the Srt-4 is loud. They don't have mufflers just 2 resinators. The Factory exhaust is also duel exhaust. I know pretty ricey huh. Out of the box the Srt-4's are fast. if it was an 03 stock it has 215 hp and 240 lb/tq. (04/05 is 15 more hp and 10 more lb/tq along with LSD). Bone stock the srt-4 will run low 14s all day long at the track. If your god of launching a FWD car you'll run high 13s. Mopar has a bunch of power adders for the Srt-4, stage 1 240hp, stage 2 260hp, stage 3 350 hp. Quite respectable times. But, alot of the people that have Srt-4's think they are the fastest cars on the planet. (including me sometimes until i get beat :( ) (had a nice run in with a viper but i will tell you about his buslengths later.)
How fast are these cars anyway... Seems like they are quite respectable on the street and I would guess the track as well...
The factory exhaust on the Srt-4 is loud. They don't have mufflers just 2 resinators. The Factory exhaust is also duel exhaust. I know pretty ricey huh. Out of the box the Srt-4's are fast. if it was an 03 stock it has 215 hp and 240 lb/tq. (04/05 is 15 more hp and 10 more lb/tq along with LSD). Bone stock the srt-4 will run low 14s all day long at the track. If your god of launching a FWD car you'll run high 13s. Mopar has a bunch of power adders for the Srt-4, stage 1 240hp, stage 2 260hp, stage 3 350 hp. Quite respectable times. But, alot of the people that have Srt-4's think they are the fastest cars on the planet. (including me sometimes until i get beat :( ) (had a nice run in with a viper but i will tell you about his buslengths later.)
-Jayson-
03-21-2005, 01:32 PM
well it depends on what stage you get. Stage 1 is like a mid 14 second, stage 2 is a high 13 second.
chexmixa
03-21-2005, 01:35 PM
well it depends on what stage you get. Stage 1 is like a mid 14 second, stage 2 is a high 13 second.
Not quite my man, All though it really depends on the track, i Have seen vids of Srt-4s on tracks 5400Ft above sea level running low 15s high 14s. Sea level or a lil above bone stock you'll run low 14s. Stage 3 with a few toys your looken to conquer 12s.
Not quite my man, All though it really depends on the track, i Have seen vids of Srt-4s on tracks 5400Ft above sea level running low 15s high 14s. Sea level or a lil above bone stock you'll run low 14s. Stage 3 with a few toys your looken to conquer 12s.
chevydrummer76
03-21-2005, 01:53 PM
"That's right you just got beat by a four cylinder homee"
haha...what an ass
haha...what an ass
IceIceBaby
03-21-2005, 02:05 PM
I had a friend who had a stage two srt-4. Suprisingly fast. He wrecked like three of em..... :loser:
chexmixa
03-21-2005, 02:07 PM
I had a friend who had a stage two srt-4. Suprisingly fast. He wrecked like three of em..... :loser:
whoa in your sig you have a nice Foxbody mustang with very nice dyno numbers, But why the hell does it say you ran a 23 sec 1/4????
whoa in your sig you have a nice Foxbody mustang with very nice dyno numbers, But why the hell does it say you ran a 23 sec 1/4????
TheStang00
03-21-2005, 08:21 PM
lol that is kinda funny, is your 93 GT stock? and yeah what an ass... he forgot to mention the turbo...
CamaroSSBoy346
03-21-2005, 08:34 PM
so I'm assuming this is a 93 MUSTANG GT? Or Probe? Anyways, get some gears, and blow his ass outta the water.
TheStang00
03-21-2005, 08:36 PM
says mustang in the profile
RedLightning
03-21-2005, 08:37 PM
so I'm assuming this is a 93 MUSTANG GT? Or Probe? Anyways, get some gears, and blow his ass outta the water.
he has gears I believe. 3.73.
he has gears I believe. 3.73.
civicHBsi91
03-21-2005, 08:52 PM
I have raced a modded srt before. not quite sure which stage but I know it was modified.
He pulled pretty good off the bat but I caught back up in 4th and was reelin him in but had to shut it down it was getting too fast for a non highway race.
What mods do the stage's consist of?
He pulled pretty good off the bat but I caught back up in 4th and was reelin him in but had to shut it down it was getting too fast for a non highway race.
What mods do the stage's consist of?
Mr. Luos
03-21-2005, 09:11 PM
Not quite my man, All though it really depends on the track, i Have seen vids of Srt-4s on tracks 5400Ft above sea level running low 15s high 14s. Sea level or a lil above bone stock you'll run low 14s. Stage 3 with a few toys your looken to conquer 12s.
I know a guy that ran 13.7 at 101 MPH at Bandimere. 5800 feet up. He was running 17.5 PSI at the time. Stock turbo. Couple mods, wastegate, turbo timer, and two other mods.
They can be made quick. Although, this guy was running terribly lean. Like so lean I would not have been racing it. He made it so far. Not sure what he did this winter though, although I have heard he is running 20 PSI now. I am going to need my stroker to keep up with him.
I think if we ran right now, it would be VERY close. I should trap around 105-106 I would think, and he should be close to that as well.
Quick little bastards.
I know a guy that ran 13.7 at 101 MPH at Bandimere. 5800 feet up. He was running 17.5 PSI at the time. Stock turbo. Couple mods, wastegate, turbo timer, and two other mods.
They can be made quick. Although, this guy was running terribly lean. Like so lean I would not have been racing it. He made it so far. Not sure what he did this winter though, although I have heard he is running 20 PSI now. I am going to need my stroker to keep up with him.
I think if we ran right now, it would be VERY close. I should trap around 105-106 I would think, and he should be close to that as well.
Quick little bastards.
2000LS1Z28
03-21-2005, 09:40 PM
he Factory exhaust is also duel exhaust. I know pretty ricey huh. Out of the box the Srt-4's are fast. if it was an 03 stock it has 215 hp and 240 lb/tq. (04/05 is 15 more hp and 10 more lb/tq along with LSD). Bone stock the srt-4 will run low 14s all day long at the track. If your god of launching a FWD car you'll run high 13s. Mopar has a bunch of power adders for the Srt-4, stage 1 240hp, stage 2 260hp, stage 3 350 hp. Quite respectable times. But, alot of the people that have Srt-4's think they are the fastest cars on the planet. (including me sometimes until i get beat :( ) (had a nice run in with a viper but i will tell you about his buslengths later.
I thought that they first came out with 225 horsepower originally??? Anyways, bone stock the 04/05's will run a high 13 sec. pass. They are definitely traction limited. They trap at over 101 mph, so the power is there. A guy on LS1.com, 1Sweet00SS, makes sure to enlighten LS1 owners of the car's street cred. He runs high 12's, and his car is only a stage 2. I hope Dodge doesn't pull something stupid, like GM, and get rid of the SRT-4 for something as pathetic as the SSR.
I thought that they first came out with 225 horsepower originally??? Anyways, bone stock the 04/05's will run a high 13 sec. pass. They are definitely traction limited. They trap at over 101 mph, so the power is there. A guy on LS1.com, 1Sweet00SS, makes sure to enlighten LS1 owners of the car's street cred. He runs high 12's, and his car is only a stage 2. I hope Dodge doesn't pull something stupid, like GM, and get rid of the SRT-4 for something as pathetic as the SSR.
1993_GT
03-21-2005, 10:06 PM
lol that is kinda funny, is your 93 GT stock? and yeah what an ass... he forgot to mention the turbo...
Yes my car is bone stock except for 3:55 gears and a full Mac Exhaust.
Yes my car is bone stock except for 3:55 gears and a full Mac Exhaust.
Mr. Luos
03-21-2005, 10:16 PM
Yes my car is bone stock except for 3:55 gears and a full Mac Exhaust.
That just sounds really funny to me.....
Yeah, my car is bone stock except for the supercharger and cam. :icon16:
That just sounds really funny to me.....
Yeah, my car is bone stock except for the supercharger and cam. :icon16:
1993_GT
03-21-2005, 10:39 PM
That just sounds really funny to me.....
Yeah, my car is bone stock except for the supercharger and cam. :icon16:
Don't know why that is funny.. The engine has not been touched in anyway, I still have the filter box in place , sans air silencer of course... As for the exhaust and gears I guess you could say I am not bone stock. Maybe I should say stock except for gears and exhaust.
When I say bone stock I am referring to the engine. All engine components on the car, are as they came from Ford in 1993, original intake, heads, MAF, Throttle Body, rockers, cam, etc... :dunno:
Yeah, my car is bone stock except for the supercharger and cam. :icon16:
Don't know why that is funny.. The engine has not been touched in anyway, I still have the filter box in place , sans air silencer of course... As for the exhaust and gears I guess you could say I am not bone stock. Maybe I should say stock except for gears and exhaust.
When I say bone stock I am referring to the engine. All engine components on the car, are as they came from Ford in 1993, original intake, heads, MAF, Throttle Body, rockers, cam, etc... :dunno:
Mr. Luos
03-21-2005, 10:49 PM
Don't know why that is funny..
It wasn't meant to offend.
We consider stock differently. To me, if ANYTHING has been done, it can't be stock anymore. This includes free mods. Just me I guess.
Oh, and I hope you don't think I was ripping your car, because I wasn't. I don't do that, unless provoked by a ricer.
It wasn't meant to offend.
We consider stock differently. To me, if ANYTHING has been done, it can't be stock anymore. This includes free mods. Just me I guess.
Oh, and I hope you don't think I was ripping your car, because I wasn't. I don't do that, unless provoked by a ricer.
dampachi
03-21-2005, 11:14 PM
when you buy an SRT-4 you get a free cocky attitude with it. i've ran head to head with a stage 2 SRT-4 around here..and after the race he yelled out his window 'you're slow' and took off down the turning lane and almost hit a car pulling out. haha. dumb fuck. those cars are fast as shit if you can launch FWD.
FormulaLT1
03-21-2005, 11:21 PM
It wasn't meant to offend.
We consider stock differently. To me, if ANYTHING has been done, it can't be stock anymore. This includes free mods. Just me I guess.
Oh, and I hope you don't think I was ripping your car, because I wasn't. I don't do that, unless provoked by a ricer.I think the same way. I mean not to a extreme (like change the air filter to a K&N and its still stock to me) but gears is a major modification that can give you 5 tenths or more in some cases off your ET's and the exhaust techinically is a engine mod(and exhaust can be headers, catback or just a muffler). To me your car is no longer stock.
We consider stock differently. To me, if ANYTHING has been done, it can't be stock anymore. This includes free mods. Just me I guess.
Oh, and I hope you don't think I was ripping your car, because I wasn't. I don't do that, unless provoked by a ricer.I think the same way. I mean not to a extreme (like change the air filter to a K&N and its still stock to me) but gears is a major modification that can give you 5 tenths or more in some cases off your ET's and the exhaust techinically is a engine mod(and exhaust can be headers, catback or just a muffler). To me your car is no longer stock.
dampachi
03-21-2005, 11:27 PM
his engine is stock, but his car is modded. so just to make things easier, 1993_GT..your car is modded. Okay? :up:
street_racer_00
03-21-2005, 11:51 PM
just say a "lightly modded" 1993 mustang GT...exhaust and gears would be light mods, so it makes sense...now if you had a 347 stroker kit on it with a blower and 4.10 gears, you would be "heavily modded"....and somewhere in between those two, you would be "moderately modded"(whoa that sounds weird lol).
chevytrucks92
03-22-2005, 12:08 AM
Nice run 93_GT. Sounds like the two cars were nearly dead even in performance, and that always makes for good races.
About the modifications, I wouldn't call gears just a "light mod" for reasons already stated.
About the modifications, I wouldn't call gears just a "light mod" for reasons already stated.
Musashi3000GT
03-22-2005, 09:37 AM
the problem with the SRT-4 is that is soooo atainable. you could be a punk ass kid working at taco-bell but if you have 4k down, worked at taco-bell for at least two years and have had a credit card for two years and made all your payments on time then you could own one.
most people driving SRTs are driving an amazingly well built car with awsome power and a well-backed company like Mopar to make all the goddies to make you even faster.... problem is your still a punk ass child with no respect, no experience and no sense of what street sportsmanship is like. its like having sex with a hot cheerleader for the first time, you think your a bad ass all of a sudden.
dont worry Todd, in two weeks you be able to go looking for him again and yell out "hah, you got beat by a 12-year-old car bitch"
booyaah.
most people driving SRTs are driving an amazingly well built car with awsome power and a well-backed company like Mopar to make all the goddies to make you even faster.... problem is your still a punk ass child with no respect, no experience and no sense of what street sportsmanship is like. its like having sex with a hot cheerleader for the first time, you think your a bad ass all of a sudden.
dont worry Todd, in two weeks you be able to go looking for him again and yell out "hah, you got beat by a 12-year-old car bitch"
booyaah.
solaris=amazing
03-22-2005, 09:38 AM
Man that dude sounded like a real prick. He actually said HOMEE..? Lol, i would have gotten out and kicked his quarter panel like robert duvall in "days of thunder"...lol.. He gets out, you get in..i bet you'd win the race then..
Seriously though, you come accross assholes like that everyday. One time i was sitting at dd just chillin drinkin my coffee..and this little wigger sticks his ead IN MY PASSENGER WINDOW...to ask me what subs i got..??!!?? Yeah my window was open, and i came into the lot NOT EVEN at 1/4 volume, but still..WTF..? I was like, dude..?
Seriously though, you come accross assholes like that everyday. One time i was sitting at dd just chillin drinkin my coffee..and this little wigger sticks his ead IN MY PASSENGER WINDOW...to ask me what subs i got..??!!?? Yeah my window was open, and i came into the lot NOT EVEN at 1/4 volume, but still..WTF..? I was like, dude..?
solaris=amazing
03-22-2005, 09:42 AM
Another thing, there is a lack of respect in alot of todays youth. I only wish you told that punk assm if you didn't have turbo..you'd be..well...a granny mobile..?
If anyone argues with that, do the math. The same thing with these 250+hp evo's, NO TURBO=SLOW ASS CAR. I like baseline engines with balls, like an LS1 or even the 3.0 6 in maxima's.
If anyone argues with that, do the math. The same thing with these 250+hp evo's, NO TURBO=SLOW ASS CAR. I like baseline engines with balls, like an LS1 or even the 3.0 6 in maxima's.
chexmixa
03-22-2005, 01:42 PM
A good response to the guy in the Srt-4 would of been. Your still driven a Neon homee and i gotz a mustang.
Musashi3000GT
03-22-2005, 01:47 PM
A good response to the guy in the Srt-4 would of been. Your still driven a Neon homee and i gotz a mustang.
lets not give them any more ammo Chex! sartie owners got it bad already thanks to all these pricks missrepresenting the mopar badge.
lets not give them any more ammo Chex! sartie owners got it bad already thanks to all these pricks missrepresenting the mopar badge.
chexmixa
03-22-2005, 01:54 PM
lets not give them any more ammo Chex! sartie owners got it bad already thanks to all these pricks missrepresenting the mopar badge.
I know, i know, Some times i feel like i am the lone defender of all those who aren't prix that drive Srt-4s.
The other day i met a few Srt-4 ownerz from Srtforums that are in AZ. Real cool people, all in thier l8 20s didn't fit the Srt-4 Sterio Type at all lol. I was the youngest one there at 18.
Also i put my Mopar BOV on yesterday. Man does that thing turn heads. :evillol:
I know, i know, Some times i feel like i am the lone defender of all those who aren't prix that drive Srt-4s.
The other day i met a few Srt-4 ownerz from Srtforums that are in AZ. Real cool people, all in thier l8 20s didn't fit the Srt-4 Sterio Type at all lol. I was the youngest one there at 18.
Also i put my Mopar BOV on yesterday. Man does that thing turn heads. :evillol:
1993_GT
03-22-2005, 02:40 PM
the problem with the SRT-4 is that is soooo atainable. you could be a punk ass kid working at taco-bell but if you have 4k down, worked at taco-bell for at least two years and have had a credit card for two years and made all your payments on time then you could own one.
most people driving SRTs are driving an amazingly well built car with awsome power and a well-backed company like Mopar to make all the goddies to make you even faster.... problem is your still a punk ass child with no respect, no experience and no sense of what street sportsmanship is like. its like having sex with a hot cheerleader for the first time, you think your a bad ass all of a sudden.
dont worry Todd, in two weeks you be able to go looking for him again and yell out "hah, you got beat by a 12-year-old car bitch"
booyaah.
Ain't the truth... I am also going to be installing a Eldebrock 125 kit on engine as well. Just found one on ebay for $255.00 New. Just won the bid and it is on the way. :biggrin:
Don't understand why this guy wanted to be a smart ass. I don't think he represents the majority.
most people driving SRTs are driving an amazingly well built car with awsome power and a well-backed company like Mopar to make all the goddies to make you even faster.... problem is your still a punk ass child with no respect, no experience and no sense of what street sportsmanship is like. its like having sex with a hot cheerleader for the first time, you think your a bad ass all of a sudden.
dont worry Todd, in two weeks you be able to go looking for him again and yell out "hah, you got beat by a 12-year-old car bitch"
booyaah.
Ain't the truth... I am also going to be installing a Eldebrock 125 kit on engine as well. Just found one on ebay for $255.00 New. Just won the bid and it is on the way. :biggrin:
Don't understand why this guy wanted to be a smart ass. I don't think he represents the majority.
street_racer_00
03-22-2005, 04:27 PM
Lol, the only SRT-4 owner I've actually talked to was my friend's mom, who is in her late 30's...doesn't exactly fit the demographic.
TheStang00
03-22-2005, 04:34 PM
ive known a couple kids that were little pricks that had neons... one wasnt an SRT tho lol he had a body kit and a fart can and a park bench... it was sad.
ricesucks
03-22-2005, 04:56 PM
Someone around here has a srt-4. He brags and brags about how fast it is...My friend had a WRX when he had his srt-4....Both stock, the wrx won till like, 50 then the srt-4 blew by...He says '' I killed a STI!'' (It was a stock 03 wrx...) No offence to the owners, but some of the srt-4 owners think there car is hot shit...
TheStang00
03-22-2005, 05:09 PM
how much does a new one cost?
street_racer_00
03-22-2005, 05:21 PM
About 21 large.
Boosted1
03-22-2005, 05:44 PM
They are truly a great buy. But yeah, some owners are cocky but I doubt he represented the majority.
street_racer_00
03-22-2005, 09:08 PM
Your response shoulda been "you just beat a white boy, eseeeeee".....j/k don't do that, keep your life.
Steiner
03-23-2005, 12:28 AM
From the factory the SRT-4 has no muffler. It's a 2" setup. About a foot after the catalytic converter there's a decent size resonator though. Without that resonator Dodge couldn't have made it quiet enough (95 Dba) to be street legal for California and a few other states.
Regardless of the year, a stock '03 - '05 SRT-4 should put down between 212-238whp and 221-264wtq. Those are the highest and lowest numbers I've ever seen. Most guys put down around 230whp and 245wtq.
With a decent driver, well prepped 1/4 mile track at sea level, street tires, and 91 octane you can expect the following times...
stock: 13.7 - 14.7 @ 99-102 mph
stage 1: 13.5 - 14.2 @ 100-103 mph
stage 2: 12.8 - 13.6 @ 103-107 mph
I haven't seen any stage 3 times yet. Hopefully when the weather warms up we'll get to see how quickly 355whp/365wtq can propel a little 2900lb rocket down the 1320.
BTW...most of the local SRT-4 guys I know are 25 or older, but we have some as old as 65 and some as young as 17. The vocal minority seems to have created a stereotype for the rest of us unfortunately.
Regardless of the year, a stock '03 - '05 SRT-4 should put down between 212-238whp and 221-264wtq. Those are the highest and lowest numbers I've ever seen. Most guys put down around 230whp and 245wtq.
With a decent driver, well prepped 1/4 mile track at sea level, street tires, and 91 octane you can expect the following times...
stock: 13.7 - 14.7 @ 99-102 mph
stage 1: 13.5 - 14.2 @ 100-103 mph
stage 2: 12.8 - 13.6 @ 103-107 mph
I haven't seen any stage 3 times yet. Hopefully when the weather warms up we'll get to see how quickly 355whp/365wtq can propel a little 2900lb rocket down the 1320.
BTW...most of the local SRT-4 guys I know are 25 or older, but we have some as old as 65 and some as young as 17. The vocal minority seems to have created a stereotype for the rest of us unfortunately.
youngvr4
03-23-2005, 01:27 AM
I only wish you told that punk assm if you didn't have turbo..you'd be..well...a granny mobile..?
If anyone argues with that, do the math.
and u can tell the guy in the corvette, hey if you didnt have a bigger engine then me, then you would be slow :rolleyes:
If anyone argues with that, do the math.
and u can tell the guy in the corvette, hey if you didnt have a bigger engine then me, then you would be slow :rolleyes:
TheStang00
03-23-2005, 03:48 PM
one tho is that his 4 cylinder is top of the line shit... that v8 in his 93 stang isnt... its just an average v8, not high tech at all. but still... turbo that baby and it would be disgusting. oh well some people are just ignorant.
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