not exactly sure if i should go for it

I know this has been asked before in various ways. I'm not asking for you gys to make my mind for me or anything, just looking for advice.

I really want to turbo the 240, ive found the BoostDesigns kit to be pretty decent.

What I'm asking is is should I go for the stage 1 or stage 2. I will be leaving the block and most of the internals stock as I will not have a ton of money to spend.

stage 1 is the regular turbo setup while stage 2 has fuel upgrade and i believe 9:1 compression pistons.

Now my real concern is if my engine and transmission will be able to handle the boost. I have a 93 coupe with a lil over 123,000 miles on it. I've had it looked at and everything is said to be fine, but that wasnt checked out to be ok for a turbo.


Would you think turboing the car would be feasible and still be reliable or is that asking too much. I dont want to change from auto to 5 speed either because city driving and traffic is a hassle sometimes.

So do you think doing the turbo is too much to ask, and would i be able to expect it to be under 6 grand with labor included or am i out of my mind. if im out of my mind ill just leave the 240 for a daily and get another car to toy with.

help will be greatly appreciated, sorry for a reappearing topic, I hate it too, but I was just wondering reliability wise. Also sorry if alot of my questions and what not are all over the place, I'm niot really thinking right as of now, Illinois is scaring me.

If you're not willing to deal with the down sides of a manual, you don't deserve more power.

He's got a point man. I used to love auto cuz it was so much easier to drive, but now that I know how to drive MANUAL its so much better and fun to drive than boring ass auto.

ya the manual tranny able to handle 300+ hp, stock, i dont know about auto, i mean manual is fun to drive and more control over power on the freeways and such.

Ya, well manual is out of the question, its a bitch in the city. Downshifting and shifting every 2 seconds to move 2 feet for 2 hours isnt fun. If I got a manual it would be another car.

So like lets say manual in a little city like Los Angeles is a piece of cake huh? And if u drove enough in manual u would know that ur 1st gear should be able to go up to at least 15. And unless ur going faster than 15mph in 2 feet, I would say go with AUTO.

P.S. And if u got another car in manual u wouldn't have to shift every 2 feet either?? HHMMM...

No, if I got another car it would be used strictly as a toy. I'm sorry, but to each his own, thats just fine and dandy if you dont like auto, but I dont have a problem with it, and I wouldnt spend money on changing it now, I would do that later down the road. My preference in either standard or auto really doesnt have to do with me asking if the turbo with as many miles I have on my car.

you should be ok if you have no leaks ie compression.. but it would really suck if the car you put it on was auto.. i'd say dont even bother cause i don't see the point of having a 2.4L turbo AUTO car.. the gear ratios might not even work with the whole setup.. it may but it'd be a bumpy ride..unless you're aiming for liuke 700hp then don't bother.. if you really want the turbo then don't go more than stage 1. the tranny may not be able to handle more than that..

i think you just have loads of money and is not quite sure how to spend it. In my opinion, i think you'll regret if you spent that much money on a auto 240... that you really don't care for... ( i mean you use it for a daily commuter and when it comes to a desireable car w/ stick you want something else)

save it for something else... get your other 'dream' car.

ya, all i pretty much want is stage 1 for now, I just wasnt sure about needing a fuel system, thats why i thought i mite need stage 2. if this can all be done for around 4-5 grand than im gonna go for it, if not theres other things I'll do with the car. This is my dream car tho, so I want to keep it, just making sure i wasnt going to blow the engine.

yeah you're gonna blow the engine real quick

If you are always crawling in traffic why do you need more power? And if your dream car is an automatic sports car, it's really, really sad.

not so much for domestic v8s but an auto 4banger?? turbo?? i agree with logik, thats pretty sad. there's quite the difference in driving an auto turbo and 5 speed turbo.. its gonna throw your engine around..

If you are always crawling in traffic why do you need more power? And if your dream car is an automatic sports car, it's really, really sad.

Thanks dude, ill keep that in mind, and ya I am in traffic alot, but theres times when im not in traffic either.

BTW Logic, hows the 240 comin

If you're not willing to deal with the down sides of a manual, you don't deserve more power.

That's not an answer to a question, that's a smart-ass remark. I don't believe the issue is whether or not he has an auto or a manual, the issue is about more power :smile:. Besides that, it's not like he asked it in a jerk-faced way. He was curious. It's a wonder people actually come to this forum to ask questions more than once, what with asshole members shooting things down right off the bat. You could have at least had the tact to say something in a more presentable manner. So...if you're done giving your ego a nice handjob, maybe someone who is actually going to contribute to this guys query can post:

If you want to add a litttle power to your car, you can always go the route of some performance headers with a good exhaust system, as well as an intake. It's not a turbo kit, but it can't hurt.

See logik, that was pretty easy, now wasn't it? I didn't have to make fun of his car or anything:grinno:.

That's not an answer to a question, that's a smart-ass remark. I don't believe the issue is whether or not he has an auto or a manual, the issue is about more power :smile:. Besides that, it's not like he asked it in a jerk-faced way. He was curious. It's a wonder people actually come to this forum to ask questions more than once, what with asshole members shooting things down right off the bat. You could have at least had the tact to say something in a more presentable manner. So...if you're done giving your ego a nice handjob, maybe someone who is actually going to contribute to this guys query can post:

If you want to add a litttle power to your car, you can always go the route of some performance headers with a good exhaust system, as well as an intake. It's not a turbo kit, but it can't hurt.

See logik, that was pretty easy, now wasn't it? I didn't have to make fun of his car or anything:grinno:.

HAHA, thanks dude. I may go all N/A and upgrade suspension and all that fun stuff, but we shall see. May end up getting an MR2 turbo and keeping my 240 as a daily driver, time will tell.

Thanks dude, ill keep that in mind, and ya I am in traffic alot, but theres times when im not in traffic either.

BTW Logic, hows the 240 comin

The time when you're not in traffic wouldn't you wish you had a manual? If you do, you can deal with having a manual in traffic, if you don't, you are not a man.

And the search is going fine, thank you.

That's not an answer to a question, that's a smart-ass remark. I don't believe the issue is whether or not he has an auto or a manual, the issue is about more power :smile:. Besides that, it's not like he asked it in a jerk-faced way. He was curious. It's a wonder people actually come to this forum to ask questions more than once, what with asshole members shooting things down right off the bat. You could have at least had the tact to say something in a more presentable manner. So...if you're done giving your ego a nice handjob, maybe someone who is actually going to contribute to this guys query can post:

If you want to add a litttle power to your car, you can always go the route of some performance headers with a good exhaust system, as well as an intake. It's not a turbo kit, but it can't hurt.

See logik, that was pretty easy, now wasn't it? I didn't have to make fun of his car or anything:grinno:.

Where's the fun in that? And besides, there's plenty of other people here you will help him, I'm trying to prove a point, when someone doesn't ask a question that doesn't imply a lazy or stupid person is asking it, I will answer it.

The time when you're not in traffic wouldn't you wish you had a manual? If you do, you can deal with having a manual in traffic, if you don't, you are not a man.

And the search is going fine, thank you.

Cool man, glad the search is going fine and all. Heres the thing, who are you to judge whether or not someone is worthy of having a car when in fact you do not have a 240 yourself. You say manual is better, I say I'll stick to auto. Until you actually get a 240 your remarks about whats manly and whats not are completely worthless. You have some serious envy problems right now man, its time to grow up.

And no I am not lazy, i came to the ppl that I thought would know best considering the mileage of the car. You cant ask google is 123,000 miles safe to boost up to around 7 psi.

Actually, you CAN ask google whatever u want.

If you are always crawling in traffic why do you need more power? And if your dream car is an automatic sports car, it's really, really sad.I drive a Automatic sports car, I eat up tons of Stick. Well as sad as you may think his "dream car" is its not your decision to make, what he should want. If you don't like his idea of a great sports car thats fine but no need for wise ass remarks. Just my :2cents:.

John

where are all these people coming from... that's just the way logik replies. There are some individuals who give you straight up answers.. then there are others who question you to stimulate your brain and maybe even give you other options/ideas. I think this forum is great because we have that variety and there's always something new... (well most of the time). He isn't just simply out to get people... If EVERYONE replied with boring-generic answers.. this forum would be pointless. You'll basically get the same reply over and over again.

If you translate his first reply... it's basically saying "have you ever thought about a manual sports car instead of a upgraded automatic"... ( actually the tranny will last longer... and in the long run you'll be glad you got stick ) but of course that's just another forum user's opinion.. no one said you had to take it personally.

This is fun, alright, 91300zxtt, I didn't say you were lazy because you didn't search (which you didn't), I said you were lazy because you want a fast car, but won't deal with having a manual. And for the fact that I don't have a 240, does it change anything? I never said you weren't worthy of a 240SX, I said you were didn't need more power if you were to lazy to drive a manual. For FormulaLT1, I'm giving my opinion about his lazy ass, he can make what he wants of it. And you're proud of your automatic Firebird? Wow, you dumped 10 grand into the engine, and you're beating stock Civics and Focuses, I'm so impressed! Oh and 91300zxtt, I don't envy you, so get over yourself.

Edit: Thanks SHIFT, what you said is exactly right.

Logik is kinda like that dude from American Idol, Simon, while the majority of the people on the forum are like Paula Abdul and that other dude. He talks shit to get you thinking. The regulars are well aware of his antics and language. I've only been on this about a month and a half and I know that already.

Logik is kinda like that dude from American Idol, Simon, while the majority of the people on the forum are like Paula Abdul and that other dude. He talks shit to get you thinking. The regulars are well aware of his antics and language. I've only been on this about a month and a half and I know that already.

See, he also get's it.

For FormulaLT1, I'm giving my opinion about his lazy ass, he can make what he wants of it. And you're proud of your automatic Firebird? Wow, you dumped 10 grand into the engine, and you're beating stock Civics and Focuses, I'm so impressed! Oh and 91300zxtt, I don't envy you, so get over yourself.

Edit: Thanks SHIFT, what you said is exactly right.Um, excuse me how much did I "dump" into my engine and excuse me I don't think running 11's is just beating Civic's and focuses. The fact is that Auto 4th Gens run the 1/4 faster than Stick's. So you are talking out your ass about things you don't know about. We are more than happy to hear your opinions but don't need your shuving your opinions down our throats and your personal attacks are not welcome nor is your better than thou attitude. Where did I come from?. The mod corner. logik23, take 5 days off. The guidelines are very clear on personal attacks and flaming.

John

Did logik just get banned for 5 days for that???? I think we should all be a little more careful around here.

If they had a smilie that was pouring beer on the floor out of a 40 I woulda inserted it here ____ but thye dont sorry Logik. See u on Wed. man. And next time check to see how many posts a person has before u start to "give them a piece of your mind" its a pretty good indication as to who they are. Late.

lol damn logik, ill smoke a fattie for you bro lol. And anyways, while were talking about giving good info...someone said to add headers and good exhaust for power. UMMMMM this is a four cylinder....headers and exhaust will give you a wopping 10 hps...if that, how do i know you ask?? I have an auto 240 with header back. I have a STOCK manual 240 also....guess which one will beat the other???? You guessed it the STICK. Logik gave him the best advice possible. DONT dump your money into a turbo on an auto 240, unless you have some serious intentions in your mind. A stage 1 turbo on an auto...will be slow still. Well actually why do you want to turbo the car in the first place???? i mean why waste the money on an auto that will still be slow as an auto? You just want to hear a BOV? Do you want better gas mileage? I just dont get the frickin point. I guess thats why all of us "regulars" seem to give smart ass remarks, because we see that its kinda pointless. Iv never heard of anyone turboing there car to get more power that they use to drive 2ft in traffic. I mean the turbo will give faster 2ft times, but the stock motor should be good for those close 2ft races. I drove an auto 240 for 4 years, had my stick for one hour, and was ready to never drive my auto again....but know shes my daily driver, and the stick i drive when i feel like layin some rubber. Not that much rubber because its stock lol. Plus if this is your dream car, why would not go balls out on it?? I just dont get this method of thinking i guess. O well your money your choice, good luck whatever you do.

For FormulaLT1, I'm giving my opinion about his lazy ass, he can make what he wants of it. And you're proud of your automatic Firebird? Wow, you dumped 10 grand into the engine, and you're beating stock Civics and Focuses

Formulas run low 14's all day long, tell me what stock civic or focus runs that dude. Dropping even 1 grand into an lt1 is well worth the money. Dropping 10 grand into our cars will barely get us into the 13's.

wow 10grand in a 240 would be 10's. You sir are being just as stubborn as logic. Plus firebirds are teh gay. Big ass ugly over wieght american crap. See i can be just as stubborn. Saying something as stupid as you just said proves that you shouldnt turbo your 240. You dont have a friggin clue. I see now how the world is so screwed up.

Im sorry logik says he "I knew he was a mod, Im not stupid, Wanted tos ee if he would ban me"
Also i think i can get into 11s or 12s with 10gs into a 240

I just dont get this method of thinking i guess. O well your money your choice, good luck whatever you do.
See whats so hard about putting things like that without calling someone lazy ass?. You gave him food for thought and there was no need for name calling. I get you sticking up for a regular when I don't frequent this forum but the guidelines were made to cover every member in every forum and to be honest do you think this thread would have been on my radar if they were being followed?. I was willing to drop it at leave the wise ass remarks but ofcourse I had to be dragged into this for sticking up for the guy to have his right to choose either of the 2 drivetrains. Like was said its his money and his choice.

John

wow 10grand in a 240 would be 10's. You sir are being just as stubborn as logic. Plus firebirds are teh gay. Big ass ugly over wieght american crap. See i can be just as stubborn. Saying something as stupid as you just said proves that you shouldnt turbo your 240. You dont have a friggin clue. I see now how the world is so screwed up.Do I really have to lock this thread?. I don't care what you think about my car. You can hate it all you want. Do we need the gay comments or american crap?. I didn't come in here to flame anyone and no the firebird doesn't have the performance car market cornered. Can we just leave helpfull comments in this thread and drop all the attitude's. I am trying my hardiest to be the nice guy here.

Thanks

John

Edit- Also were did 10 Grand come from?. I spent maybe $2500 and did alot of work myself to get my car 11's worthy. So 10 G's is out of no were and I am sure with 10 G's you guys could do better than 13's :2cents:.

actually, john, thats the way everybody is in the 240sx forum.. i know you came across this cause of the keyword "firebird" but if you look at other threads we all take stabs at eachother for being canadian/american.. from what i know we're pretty mean to the noobs.. turno more away than gain

Im sorry logik says he "I knew he was a mod, Im not stupid, Wanted tos ee if he would ban me"
Also i think i can get into 11s or 12s with 10gs into a 240
"I think I'll stick my hand into this boiling water to see if it scolds me." :rolleyes:

How stupid is this? Really? Because someone thinks that he's the god of a fuckin internet forum, and that he can respond to people like they are shit, this happens. And then you all wonder why he gets banned? I WAS going to suggest this area for some friends of mine who have a 240's but seeing how the members of this forum work, fuck that. You people are bunch of shits. Maybe when you grow up you'll get the hang of this "interaction thing".

actually, john, thats the way everybody is in the 240sx forum.. i know you came across this cause of the keyword "firebird" but if you look at other threads we all take stabs at eachother for being canadian/american.. from what i know we're pretty mean to the noobs.. turno more away than gainThis thread was brought to my attention do to the report feature not from the use of the word Firebird which was only used after I had posted in this thread. I could careless what is said about my car. I like it and thats all that matters to me. Every forum has there car they bash, as long as it stays in there forum it is somewhat tolerated. I have no issue with you guys hating on F-body's. I just don't like the need for name calling. Thats all.
Thanks alot guys.

John