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USDM Right Hand Drive Conversion ????


Mtrujillo
03-15-2005, 03:07 PM
I need some advice from you guys...I need to decide what is going to be the best Course of Action for my new REX that I just got. It's a dinky DX which has been stripped now. I want to build a JDM version this time around. My other 91 is a full USDM version. So I talked to my friends over at G-Speed and they are importing me a JDM Sir Front clip. Here is the thing, I want to Convert my new REX to Right hand drive. What do you guys think??? I figured I buy the clip and use all the parts from the clip to convert my shit over...Do any of you know anybody who has done this with a USDM?? I just want to know what I'm getting myself into here. I've decided I'm going to do it, but I just wanted to see if anyone knew anyone that I could talk to about this??? Well let me know if you guys have any suggestions or coments. Thanks Guys!

doug294
03-15-2005, 03:54 PM
Sounds like a fun project. I know it's been done before I just can't remember off hand who did it though. One thing you might want to check is your local laws. I friend of mine was doing a RHD conversion and come to find out it was illegal in our state except for gov./mail vehicles.

YZ125rider21
03-15-2005, 03:55 PM
haha one big project...wanna make it clean your gonna have to get all the internal studd fomr the jdm rex and all the steering parts for the right hand drive...i think in the long run be cheap just by a rex rhd and figure a way to get it street legal....cause you be able have the glass top with it instead of only rhd...my opinon...dont get me wrong unless you have time and money why not try to do it

doug294
03-15-2005, 03:58 PM
Yeah, have them import the rear clip and weld them together :icon16:

Mtrujillo
03-15-2005, 04:20 PM
haha one big project...wanna make it clean your gonna have to get all the internal studd fomr the jdm rex and all the steering parts for the right hand drive...i think in the long run be cheap just by a rex rhd and figure a way to get it street legal....cause you be able have the glass top with it instead of only rhd...my opinon...dont get me wrong unless you have time and money why not try to do it


Well that's the main reason why I'm doing it...It would cost me anywere from 3500-5500 for a JDM REX...(Glass Top's are hard to find, believe I've looked into it)...The clip is only costing me $1400 from G-Speed http://www.gspeedcorp.com/cgi-bin/home.cgi <----for those of you intrested. I've ordered a glass top from Password for only 750. The clip has everything I need. I know that because that's how I got the motor for my other CRX..now that I need the clip I dont have it anymore I junked it. So you see I still come under budget. But I just want to talk to someone who has done it. I live in Utah, so I know the Laws here are not as tight as Cali, plus I know some guys here with Skylines...So I dont think it will be a big deal. So let me know if you guys find anything on this.

Any help you guys can give would be awesome...My clips arrives in less then 3 weeks, so I want to do some prep work!...I'll post pictures as soon as I get a Digi cam.

mrceej
03-15-2005, 04:26 PM
I live in San Diego and I know one guy who has converted his 2nd Gen Integra to RHD (legally). Try emailing someone at www.sinfulenhancements.com they are very knowledgeable about body work and could probably help you (my name is CJ, you can mention me if you like).

Mtrujillo
03-15-2005, 04:32 PM
I live in San Diego and I know one guy who has converted his 2nd Gen Integra to RHD (legally). Try emailing someone at www.sinfulenhancements.com they are very knowledgeable about body work and could probably help you (my name is CJ, you can mention me if you like).


Thanks CJ, I'll do that...If anyone has anymore info please hit me...

civickiller
03-15-2005, 05:29 PM
its gonna be a bitch to do. i dont think its worth the effort myself. but thats just me

Mtrujillo
03-15-2005, 05:58 PM
its gonna be a bitch to do. i dont think its worth the effort myself. but thats just me


See that's the thing it's not a bitch...With my other CRX I could have done it but I wanted to keep it USDM...When I bought the motor for that one I bought a complete Clip becuase it's cheaper it has all the parts that you need. Mounts, WireHarness, ECU...it was cheaper for me becuase I had a DX. When we pulled both motors out I noticed that they are practically the same...just little differences. It's not that hard to drill and Tap new holes were you need them, and patch up the ones you don't need anymore. I dont plan on having some shop do this. I'm tackling this head on with my friends...I've compared both clips side by side, and I know it will work, they are Identical with the exception of right hand drive.

dmbrisket 51
03-15-2005, 07:38 PM
lol if its a std transmission, have fun lol first will be over on the top outside corner, instead of the inside corner

Mtrujillo
03-15-2005, 07:50 PM
lol if its a std transmission, have fun lol first will be over on the top outside corner, instead of the inside corner


Look dude before you make any comments... know what you are talking about!!!! The shift gates are the same they are not different...So NO!!! 1st gear is not in the upper right hand corner!! I've driven right hand cars before! Freaking Moron!....Look I need Info not stupid remarks!

CivicSpoon
03-15-2005, 07:52 PM
Yes they are identical except for the RHD and LHD parts, but changing one over to the other is going to be a bitch. You're going to have to cut out the firewalls and weld the RHD one into your LHD crx. And then you're going to have to switch everything over from there. Hope you know how to weld right and have either a plasma cutter or a ton of cutting wheels available. So welding, cutting, rewiring, rerouting; have fun with all that.

CivicSpoon
03-15-2005, 07:55 PM
Look dude before you make any comments... know what you are talking about!!!! The shift gates are the same they are not different...So NO!!! 1st gear is not in the upper right hand corner!! I've driven right hand cars before! Freaking Moron!....Look I need Info not stupid remarks!
No you're a moron. He's talking about you being in the cabin. Instead of having 1st gear being shifted up and towards you, it's going to be up and away from you.

Mtrujillo
03-15-2005, 08:06 PM
Yes they are identical except for the RHD and LHD parts, but changing one over to the other is going to be a bitch. You're going to have to cut out the firewalls and weld the RHD one into your LHD crx. And then you're going to have to switch everything over from there. Hope you know how to weld right and have either a plasma cutter or a ton of cutting wheels available. So welding, cutting, rewiring, rerouting; have fun with all that.

**As for the shift gate thing my bad I didn't quite understand what he was talking about! Sorry about that I take it back!!**

I really dont want to cut the firewall completely out...I was thinking of cutting the Clips firewall and then using that as a template for my firewall and then patching up the open holes in my firewall. And yeah I have a plasma cutter, and my friend is a Pro welder...I haven't been able to find any picts of actual conversions...but I think I'll find something. Like I said if anyone finds anything let me know...

Gitrdone42
03-15-2005, 09:00 PM
thats a pretty cool project...and my brother is in the process of converting his 94 teg to RHD...he wrecked his so he decided to go ahead and buy a front clip, but he is taking a different route with it. he is actually cutting his car in half and welding it all back together, well hes not but the bodyshop we use is doing it. but good luck with yours and post some pics when u get it going.

Exempt
03-15-2005, 09:13 PM
Im down for the JDM thing, love JDM myself... But I personally see no need to have a RHD conversion done to a USDM car... Its simply to be 'different', it does accomplish that... But it adds more negatives than it does good... Drive thrus for instance... Left turns... Ect... So not only installing it would be a pain, but actually driving it would be aswell... Just some things to think about...

travagliante
03-15-2005, 10:39 PM
Gosh i cant believe people make a big deal about drive throughs and stuff.

Drill out the spotwelds. That is the easiest and best way. Also check out honda-tech.com
Search Right hand drive There is a person with a great write up on it. Its done to a yellow Integra type r!

Exempt
03-15-2005, 11:27 PM
Gosh i cant believe people make a big deal about drive throughs and stuff.

Drill out the spotwelds. That is the easiest and best way. Also check out honda-tech.com
Search Right hand drive There is a person with a great write up on it. Its done to a yellow Integra type r!


Its not that drive thrus are a big deal... Visibility when driving is... And the truth is with RHD car, on a LHD road, visibility is VERY limited... Merging, passing a car on a 2 lane road, turning, ect... Now these ARE a big deal... And all for what? :sly:

CivicSpoon
03-15-2005, 11:44 PM
Yeah I just threw in the drive thru thing because most people don't think about things like that. I was considering getting a car imported before, and then after realizing all the crap you have to deal with I jsut said screw it. If you're going for a show car then sure it will be fine, but as a car that's going to be on the road quite a bit then it's not a great idea. But hey do what ever you want, it's your car. And you're the one who's going to have to drive it, not any of us.

DirtyD777
03-16-2005, 12:13 AM
I don't see the point..no offense meant. Just seems like a lot of pain in pie hole for no reason.

Ones&zeros
03-16-2005, 12:16 AM
does front clip mean from the fire wall up

travagliante
03-16-2005, 12:34 AM
I don't see the point..no offense meant. Just seems like a lot of pain in pie hole for no reason.

Its more, well actually a show thing. At one time i was really considering it since that is all my car is ever used for now!

Yes a front clip is usually from the dash forward while a half cut is basically cut in the middle.

DirtyD777
03-16-2005, 01:04 AM
oh yeah I can totally see how it would be cool for car shows..if I had that much money to dump into my car..lol.

But as for the ol' daily commute it does seem it would be kinda dangerous.. like they said..merging/passing etc.

Exempt
03-16-2005, 01:09 AM
Yea, for a show car, youd get mad points for a conversion... If thats the intended purpose, go for it...

travagliante
03-16-2005, 01:14 AM
Yea, for a show car, youd get mad points for a conversion... If thats the intended purpose, go for it...

yep right! but im sure a crappy conversion would take off points! LOL

hmm merging.. wouldnt that be easier. Well at least if you had no one in the car because think about it.

Coming up an on ramp. There is no one on your right side and you would have more room to look over. I think that everyone that says the blind spots really shouldnt say that until they drive and acutal RHD car. I mean every car the design will be different because of the b- pillars and such! I dont know!

Good luck with the conversion!!!! Let see A LOT of pics in the proccess.

Exempt
03-16-2005, 01:31 AM
Coming up an on ramp. There is no one on your right side and you would have more room to look over. I think that everyone that says the blind spots really shouldnt say that until they drive and acutal RHD car. I mean every car the design will be different because of the b- pillars and such! I dont know!

When u merge on a LHD road on ramp, most of the time, you have to look to your left... Only time it would be more convient is merging back into the right lane to get off the expressway (if your in the passing lane)... And on those on ramps where others merge into your lane from the right, but then its that persons responsibility to yeild to u...

Id like to drive one just once, just too see how different it would be... I think shifting would be a major problem for me tho...

BLU CIVIC
03-16-2005, 01:38 AM
probably cheaper just to import a rex and call it a day

Kven
03-16-2005, 09:34 AM
lhd car is best for lhd roads, unless you are scared of oncomming traffic! :D im about to try out rhd mainly for visibility reason(handicap right eye, so trying to focus my vision to the center of the car instead of the far left).

its easier to just cut and weld in the rhd firewall, because of the brake MC, etc. unless you are a good fabricator with extra time on your hands. the clip should have everything you need(except maybe trunk/gas cap handle).

Mtrujillo
03-16-2005, 12:31 PM
Well I appreciate all your feedback...But You guys are talkiing about cost and all this other stuff...Bottom line is I'm doing the whole conversion with a B16 including all the parts and wiring and ecu...for only $1400 thats cheaper than paying some shop $2500 to do just a motor transplant. So it's cheaper...ok! As for the driving part, I'm fortunate enough that my friends over at STS trubocharging in Salt Lake City have a R33 Skyline RHD!!! The all mighty gods have blessed me with the oportunity to drive this infamous thing called a Skyline (Which I enjoyed very much!!) for well over a month so I can see weather I would like driving on the right hand side...I can Honestly say all I dont think that all you guys who are talking about how much of bitch driving on the RH is it's actually a lot fun. You freak people out!! LOL...Drive thrus are not that big of a deal as well. So thanks for all you support...oh and by the way this isn't going to be no trailer queen or show car! I'm driving this bitch Everday of the year...So as soon as I get my clip..and I get started on this I'll do a write up on the conversion as well as a plenty of Picts...I might even make a video what do you guys think??? Should I make a video? Well let me know...

Gitrdone42
03-16-2005, 12:48 PM
Thats awesome that its going to be a daily driven car, mad props to you on it too. The one my brother is doing was a daily driven show car anyway and now its still going to be driven just not as much as he used to just for the fact he doesnt want it totaled like its already been done once.

The video would also be a cool idea, so go for it.

mrceej
03-16-2005, 01:01 PM
I wish you the best of luck bro. I'm considering converting to RHD on my corolla. It would take some getting used to driving on the right side, but since you know the feeling, I guess that the only thing left to do is to do it now!! Show or not, daily or not, you gotta do what you heart desires.

Mtrujillo
03-16-2005, 01:07 PM
I wish you the best of luck bro. I'm considering converting to RHD on my corolla. It would take some getting used to driving on the right side, but since you know the feeling, I guess that the only thing left to do is to do it now!! Show or not, daily or not, you gotta do what you heart desires.


You see now that's what I'm talking about...Some inspiring words from some cool friends!! You should RHD your corolla http://www.gspeedcorp.com/cgi-bin/home.cgi they should have what you need. And believe me driving on the right side is not that hard...it just takes some practive. All I did was drive around my neighboorhood taking left hand turn were ever I could...Thanks for all you support guys!

*** JDM 4 LIFE ***

BLU CIVIC
03-17-2005, 06:41 AM
*** JDM 4 LIFE ***

if ur JDM for life...wouldn't you import a JDM instead of making ur USDM look like JDM :dunno:

Mtrujillo
03-17-2005, 11:32 AM
if ur JDM for life...wouldn't you import a JDM instead of making ur USDM look like JDM :dunno:


Yeah But not all of us have that kind of money, or really good paying jobs...to be importing cars. And the ones that are avaialable here is the states, people Jack up the price..I looked into just buying. I found one in really poor condition I mean just banged up and this guy wanted $4000 for it ohh it didn't have a engine as well, then I found a nicer cleaner one, $6000 I'm building my car up with only $2300 dollars...If you find me a JDM SIR w/ Glass top and running for under 3500 please by all means Let me know and I'll jump on it. There is nothing more that I would like than an authentic SIR...I've looked for the past 6 months to no avail..they just cost to much. And there not always in the best condition. This new Rex that I got 91 DX in the most pristine condition that I have ever seen for a CRX...The owner was an Old man he was the Original owner of the car back in 91 it only has 106 thousand miles on it. I mean this thing is like new! You know how much he gave me the car for $800..I thought I was dreaming. So you see it was more cost efficient for me. The total build is costing me less than $3500 w/ Paint and all the JDM parts.

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