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Adding to the FD conversation a while ago with a VID!!!


nissanfanatic
03-15-2005, 10:23 AM
http://www.putfile.com/media.php?n=StillwayFD3S

This is one bad-ass FD!!!! Rotaries can definately put HP to wheels.

logik23
03-15-2005, 04:20 PM
I Love That Car!!!!

s13dr1fter
03-15-2005, 04:27 PM
damn that car was hella fast. How fast was that in mph?

monooxide
03-15-2005, 04:28 PM
If that 650RWHP RX-7 can hook it up and go think about the 800RWHP S15 beside it

logik23
03-15-2005, 04:32 PM
It's like 160mph.

monooxide
03-15-2005, 04:36 PM
really speed means nothing in relation to how high the number is....I mean I dont want a car with a top speed of 200MPH... when i could have a car that would get to 60-160MPH in like 4-6 seconds....

nissanfanatic
03-15-2005, 04:57 PM
I think I would take the FD over the silvia in this case. I'd just need to start learning about rotaries.haha

KPH-MPH conversion: http://www.aer-net.co.uk/edr/kph.htm

So 240kph I believe was his top speed. I can't remember as I watched the vid like 5 hours ago at work. Dial up here.

240kph*0.621=149mph
And he started at like 100kph? So he actually started at 62mph. Id say you found yourself a car monoxide. And it was a nine second car on street tires!!!!!!!!!!

The US really needs to just start using metric measurements and stop being different just to be independent.

monooxide
03-15-2005, 05:20 PM
Actaully in the 70s the US stated they would change over to metric but never have...

logik23
03-15-2005, 05:25 PM
And it was 260kmh, so that means 161mph, BOO YAH I'M GOOD!!!!

SHIFT_KA24DE
03-15-2005, 06:35 PM
seriously... US should've switched to metric... i'm pretty fuked taking engineering courses here... if i try working in Japan.. i'll have to switch everything. lolz...

btw... the FD kicks ass... i simply love higher rpm range... no nissan can rev that far... (off the factory line that is)

Scope240
03-15-2005, 06:43 PM
lol nice it is a sweet car, with a nice top speed, but just out of curiosity, what is the top speed of the 240 ka or sr engine.

Hit_N_Run-player
03-15-2005, 07:01 PM
we dont know because the speed limiter cuts out on the KA at i think 117mph?? But you could probably take out the govener and use GPS to track the top speed...

Scope240
03-15-2005, 07:04 PM
ya i know, thanks for the info, just wondering, cuz i mean the 240 are damn stable at high speeds.

nissanfanatic
03-15-2005, 07:43 PM
With some suspension stuff they are. Stock, mine gets floaty at anything past 110mph.

Scope240
03-15-2005, 08:44 PM
ya too mine to about that, and it felt solid, real solid, like i felt i was only going 80, but then again i looked at my surrounds and couldnt make them out.

R.W.240
03-15-2005, 09:57 PM
118MPH Speed Cut - it just stops accelerating. Ive had my SR for 2 weeks now and Ive hit it a couple times.

SR / KA gearing goes to 180ish


FDs are cool but they should have more power for being a relative 2.6L also the FD revs to 8K... so Does the Skyline and Ive seen a few drag skyrines doing over 11K

orestes
03-15-2005, 10:03 PM
Ive seen a few drag skyrines doing over 11K

lol skyrine. R.W. speaks Engrish...

logik23
03-15-2005, 10:29 PM
118MPH Speed Cut - it just stops accelerating. Ive had my SR for 2 weeks now and Ive hit it a couple times.

SR / KA gearing goes to 180ish


FDs are cool but they should have more power for being a relative 2.6L also the FD revs to 8K... so Does the Skyline and Ive seen a few drag skyrines doing over 11K

Weve been over this, it's a 1.3 liter! lol

I'm not simply refering to this, but in GT4, it's 1300cc...so....

SHIFT_KA24DE
03-15-2005, 11:13 PM
yea it is... twin rotory... 750cc x 2 = 1300cc

Chuki_breath
03-16-2005, 08:04 AM
wow thats bad ass, i just love the sound of it idling there.

slideways...
03-16-2005, 04:49 PM
yea it is... twin rotory... 750cc x 2 = 1300cc

750cc? whered you get that?
i thought it was 654ccx2=1308cc

orestes
03-16-2005, 04:52 PM
lol yeah 750x2 = 1500. the 13B is 654x2

R.W.240
03-17-2005, 02:18 PM
Hence why I said Relative... the Rotary is best compared to a 2-Stroke 2.6 liter. One rotor face of the 13B is 654CC, mazda got away with calling it a 1.3 by only counting one of the faces since there was no precedent. But 4 of the faces fire in the same number of rotations as a piston engine takes to Cycle.


Think about it... the old 13B put down 255HP. which is what the RB25 does on the same boost. Accounting for rotorys being less efficent that pistons it adds up.


About the only thing Rotarys have on piston Engines is Packaging.

Hit_N_Run-player
03-17-2005, 02:29 PM
isnt it that for every revolution on the rotary, the crankshaft spins three times? im just wondering

Soyo
03-21-2005, 05:45 PM
errr its 1.3, 1308cc 2x654cc

only the JC Cosmo had a 3-rotor engine which was the twin turbo 20B and some cosmos just had the 13b... very few had the 20b which was 1962cc 3x654cc(2.0)

the 20B-TT top speed stock is 260kph/161mph
the 13B-TT top speed stock is 235kph/146mph


it fires 3 times each revolution because of the triangular shape

oh and R.W. some race rx-7's rev 13k easy... but "off the factory line" is what was being talked about actually

the N/A FC also revs to 8k but the FC TII redlines at 7

oh and the last series of rx-7 made 265 not 255 :)

also rotary engines are much smother with less then half the moving parts of a piston engine... but disrespect it all you want I guess

orestes
03-21-2005, 05:51 PM
yeah rotarys are awesome.

Soyo
03-21-2005, 06:30 PM
just incase anyone is interested

go here for some movie clips you can download of a 20B conversion

http://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=83466&page=1&pp=15

I'll try to come up with a moving car video... I've seen a few, I just have to figure out where they are now :)

AWDSR20
03-21-2005, 07:16 PM
Take out the power steering and it WILL feel solid!

but yeah, if u do the bushings, u will feel allot of difference...
true , u need suspension too..

BTW, it feels hoverry at high speed... did u see the stock height on the 240, I call it 4X4...

AWDSR20
03-21-2005, 07:17 PM
dude Rx7 r sick...

if i have $ i would bought a FD and up greadd it...

AWDSR20
03-21-2005, 07:19 PM
ignore the 1st commnt... (lol)

Chuki_breath
03-21-2005, 07:45 PM
yea stock height on a 240 is rediculous. Its like a damn rally car....

and yea the "no" power steering will make you feel more solid. But i have coils and no power steering on one car and power steering and stock setup on the other. So i really cant tell the difference just between the power steering and suspension. All i know is, going from one to the other is like WHOA. The one with power steering im all over the road cuz its so touchy.

monooxide
03-22-2005, 01:53 AM
Do you guys agree...that a Rotor has three side.... that is Three possible firing surfaces...there are two fires per Cycle on one ROTOR...which means its equivalent to 4 rotors with only 1 fire per rotor... which would be 654cc rotors x 4 = 2616cc now
2 fires x 2 rotors x 654cc = 2616cc...now do you understand how its a 2.6 L? I dont see the Piston engine cheating and firing on the bottom side of the piston for a 5.2L RB52DETT... Why was that concept hard to grasp...that Rotary engine in those vids seem like it has a crazy "Cam" in there making it idle like a bad ass.

orestes
03-22-2005, 02:53 PM
well yeah but what is technically listed for the 13B motors is 1.3L and the 20B is 2.0L

R.W.240
03-22-2005, 03:46 PM
errr its 1.3, 1308cc 2x654cc

only the JC Cosmo had a 3-rotor engine which was the twin turbo 20B and some cosmos just had the 13b... very few had the 20b which was 1962cc 3x654cc(2.0)

also rotary engines are much smother with less then half the moving parts of a piston engine... but disrespect it all you want I guess


2.6 2 Stroke - Convince Rotary Preformance otherwise and I might start listening.

I maintain that the Rotarys only upshot to pistons is Packaging (which makes the RXs the awsome cars they are) and it bothers me that a less efficent engine is considered 11ty-billion times superior than a Piston on a technicality (displacement).

I really have no problem with Rotarys... they're fair enough motors but its the "1.3L fuck physics" yahoos that piss me off

nissanfanatic
03-22-2005, 04:53 PM
Yea I agree. Considering HP is equal to the amount of air you get through the engine with proper fuel and timing. No way to get that much air through a 1.3l without some super super serious mods.

Rotaries also have a serious overheating problem don't they? Not to mention they are fuel hogs.

Hit_N_Run-player
03-22-2005, 06:05 PM
yeah, i have heard many stories of overheating problems. Japvillage has blown there rotary and re-built it 3 times in less than a year. They said it was too unreliable to take on the gumball 3000. There RX7 has six 1600cc injectors. Only 4mpg and you have to keep putting 2stroke motor oil in it, what a bitch.

Soyo
03-27-2005, 02:55 AM
gas mileage is not bad, my modded TII got 20mpg on the high and like 17 in town... my NA got about the same

over heating can be a problem but it isn't a big problem if you take care of your car... oh and just put in a new radiator or something like that and the problem is fixed... nothing extremely bad

logik23
03-27-2005, 01:59 PM
I've heard getting a V-mount cures all overheating problems.

nissanfanatic
03-27-2005, 02:41 PM
Gotta love turbo eh Soyo?

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