Removing Engine Without Tranny?

Haynes says to pull manual tranny out with the engine...is this necessary on a 1988 1.5L FI with 5sp tranny? I would like to avoid removing the axles. Anyone with thoughts or experience with this?

In a civic IMP it is sooooooooooo much easier to take it out together.
If you want to attempt to take it out w/o tranny you need to remove crank pulley all belt driven things a/c bracket, motor mount bracket and just do a lot of wiggiling. It has been done.
But even the HONDA service manual tells you to remove the tranny with it. Now come on if honda tells you to most likely that is the easiest way!

damn i would never want to do that, why dont you wont to remove the axles? its not hard.

Yeah when i was doing this to my integra I posted the same damn thread?
See searching would have helped!

Just pop axle bolt with a breaker bar and a pole (i used my trusty fence post 5ft!) and the bolt will pop right out. Then beat the hell out of the control arm to break the ball joint seal and pop those axles out. Its so much easier.
And besides it would be hard as hell to install a tranny while wiggling it aroung the engine!

dont waste your time. just loosen the transmision mounts and the engine will tilt. no need to take off your crank pulley or anything the engine will just come right out.

Then beat the hell out of the control arm to break the ball joint seal and pop those axles out.

ouch, i never do that
use a pickle fork to split ball joints instead man
alot easier IMO

ouch, i never do that
use a pickle fork to split ball joints instead man
alot easier IMO

im with stupid on this one.

Consensus is........pull tranny with motor!!!

i did it yesterday, it's not too bad a job.

yup i always pull hte whole thing out. like most people if they are changing clutch will just leave the motor in and just drop the tranny. fuck that i pull hte whole thing out. but thats just me

^^i second that

ouch, i never do that
use a pickle fork to split ball joints instead man
alot easier IMO
9 times out of 10 that tears the boot up though.

I have tried to pull the motor without the trans once, and it was a pain in the ass. So I say pull them together.

Now, here is a question. Do you guys go out the top, or down through the bottom? I'm a bottom person myself.

9 times out of 10 that tears the boot up though.

I have tried to pull the motor without the trans once, and it was a pain in the ass. So I say pull them together.

Now, here is a question. Do you guys goe go out the top, or down through the bottom? I'm a bottom person myself.


if u get a good enough fork it wont rip them

and i like it on top.. i mean, i like to take it out the top, funner that way lol, easier imo tho

I came out the top with mine too. It came out just fine.

Never tried the bottom but now that i think about it, it sounds easier. Cuz you always gotta tip it in at a nasty angle and level it in. from the bottom it will kindof just "drop out" basically.

Edit- would the radius rods or anything get in the way?

Never tried the bottom but now that i think about it, it sounds easier. Cuz you always gotta tip it in at a nasty angle and level it in. from the bottom it will kindof just "drop out" basically.

Edit- would the radius rods or anything get in the way?
Yeah, they will. I pull them and the crossmember.

Having a lift makes a big difference on my choice of going out the top, or through he bottom.

Yeah i think you will always fu** up the ball joints. Its much easier beating it and using a pry bar IMO.
Im def. a bottom person. Much easier after you take off the header, and front mount!

i learned to put it in through the top and thats the way i do it. i gotta go at some mean angles. my ls engine was almost vertical :lol:

i took off my whole upper control arm off to get my axle out. i didnt like the pickle fork idea

Try putting a H22 in through the top. That swhen you definatly have to go through the bottom.