2007 Skyline
driftmaster200
03-10-2005, 04:20 PM
I've been reading around and people say that the new skyline will probaly use a Twin Turbo V6 or a NA V8. Both will make around 300+ BHP. If so then what motor would you get in yours?
thegladhatter
03-10-2005, 05:37 PM
An RB20DETT with antilock airshocks and lots of chrome
nismo_power
03-10-2005, 06:21 PM
im assuming you are talking about the new GT-R. the skyline and GT-R are now completly separate cars. if youd bother to read the other threads on this, although the v8 rumor is still a possibility, nissan is more than likley going with a vq32dett or a vq30dett and make 400+ horsepower. ill take whatever they put in it. doesnt matter to me much.
Dreamspawn
03-10-2005, 07:10 PM
Shouldn't this be in teh new R35/R36/GTR thread?
VQuick
03-11-2005, 08:47 AM
The funny thing about the V8 rumor is that people in the US were the ones that started it. It's hardly been mentioned in Japan at all.
With all the details about the VQ(electronically assisted turbos, semi-wet sump, etc), shouldn't we have heard something on a V8(VK or otherwise) if it were going to happen? Higher compression, displacement, hotter cams, something. Instead, we've heard nothing.
One reason the V8 is unlikely is because the V6 will have better weight distribution. Another consideration is that in Japan, I think they are taxed based on cylinders and displacement. A 3.2L V6 is going to raise taxes for customers as it is. Can you imagine how it would be with a 4L+ V8?
Some say that the V8 will just be for the US. Well, that means Nissan would have to develop, test and produce two different engines. Not very cost effective.
Besides, there will apparently be another sports car with a V8. It is supposed to slot between the 350Z and GT-R in performance, which could likely be a coupe version of the new Infiniti M45.
So, a twin turbo VQ is probably it. Possibly as much as 480ps(~473hp), and a curb weight as low as 1390kg(~3064lbs). With those kinds of specs, the GT-R has some serious potential.
With all the details about the VQ(electronically assisted turbos, semi-wet sump, etc), shouldn't we have heard something on a V8(VK or otherwise) if it were going to happen? Higher compression, displacement, hotter cams, something. Instead, we've heard nothing.
One reason the V8 is unlikely is because the V6 will have better weight distribution. Another consideration is that in Japan, I think they are taxed based on cylinders and displacement. A 3.2L V6 is going to raise taxes for customers as it is. Can you imagine how it would be with a 4L+ V8?
Some say that the V8 will just be for the US. Well, that means Nissan would have to develop, test and produce two different engines. Not very cost effective.
Besides, there will apparently be another sports car with a V8. It is supposed to slot between the 350Z and GT-R in performance, which could likely be a coupe version of the new Infiniti M45.
So, a twin turbo VQ is probably it. Possibly as much as 480ps(~473hp), and a curb weight as low as 1390kg(~3064lbs). With those kinds of specs, the GT-R has some serious potential.
Dreamspawn
03-11-2005, 01:35 PM
A v8 would destroy the weight disturbution on the FM platform wouldn't it.
VQuick
03-11-2005, 09:44 PM
A v8 would destroy the weight disturbution on the FM platform wouldn't it.
Well, it wouldn't destroy weight distribution as much as putting in an RB(longer and heavier), but it'd still be worse than with a VQ. I wouldn't mind seeing the GT-R use a turbo VK V8, actually. Still, there are the tax issues I mentioned before.
Using a V8 also might even require a different front suspension. The FX35/45 uses a different setup than the G35s and 350Z, possibly because of the V8's size. I'm not sure if the new M35/45 does it too.
Well, it wouldn't destroy weight distribution as much as putting in an RB(longer and heavier), but it'd still be worse than with a VQ. I wouldn't mind seeing the GT-R use a turbo VK V8, actually. Still, there are the tax issues I mentioned before.
Using a V8 also might even require a different front suspension. The FX35/45 uses a different setup than the G35s and 350Z, possibly because of the V8's size. I'm not sure if the new M35/45 does it too.
Dreamspawn
03-11-2005, 10:52 PM
I'd rather see the VQ but i'm a turbo guy so. Although the VK has defintly shown its self in this years JGTC. Who knows we've got like another year to 2 b4 the next skyline comes out so who knows what is coming.
nismo_power
03-12-2005, 03:55 AM
I'd rather see the VQ but i'm a turbo guy so. Although the VK has defintly shown its self in this years JGTC. Who knows we've got like another year to 2 b4 the next skyline comes out so who knows what is coming.
not in any nissan cars. the xanavi and motul nismo z's were using a vq32dett. which is why its the practical engine choice, the R&D is already done.
not in any nissan cars. the xanavi and motul nismo z's were using a vq32dett. which is why its the practical engine choice, the R&D is already done.
Beauespirit
03-12-2005, 05:56 AM
This is what Car and Driver had to say:
The illustration below depicts the upcoming Nissan Skyline GT-R. The GT-R version of the Skyline has always been a special high-performance offering in Nissan's lineup, and this one will continue that tradition. The GT-R probably has the record for the number of car-mag stories about a vehicle that has never been available in the U.S., and it remains high on our wish list.
Built on a new platform that is not shared with the standard-model Skyline, or Infiniti G35 coupe, as it's known stateside, it will likely make the GT-R far more expensive than run-of-the-mill G35 coupes.
There are conflicting reports out of Japan regarding the powerplant. One camp believes the GT-R will be powered by a Cosworth-developed twin-turbo version of the current 3.5-liter V-6, offering at least 450 horsepower. Others believe a new twin-turbo 3.2-liter V-6 will get the call.
To make sure the GT-R has supercar handling, chassis engineers from Lotus were selected to develop its steering, suspension, and drivetrain. Could this special Skyline so long denied to U.S. enthusiasts finally come to the States? "G35 GT-R" has a certain ring to it, but it's up to Nissan or Infiniti's product planners to decide whether it will come to our shores.
The illustration below depicts the upcoming Nissan Skyline GT-R. The GT-R version of the Skyline has always been a special high-performance offering in Nissan's lineup, and this one will continue that tradition. The GT-R probably has the record for the number of car-mag stories about a vehicle that has never been available in the U.S., and it remains high on our wish list.
Built on a new platform that is not shared with the standard-model Skyline, or Infiniti G35 coupe, as it's known stateside, it will likely make the GT-R far more expensive than run-of-the-mill G35 coupes.
There are conflicting reports out of Japan regarding the powerplant. One camp believes the GT-R will be powered by a Cosworth-developed twin-turbo version of the current 3.5-liter V-6, offering at least 450 horsepower. Others believe a new twin-turbo 3.2-liter V-6 will get the call.
To make sure the GT-R has supercar handling, chassis engineers from Lotus were selected to develop its steering, suspension, and drivetrain. Could this special Skyline so long denied to U.S. enthusiasts finally come to the States? "G35 GT-R" has a certain ring to it, but it's up to Nissan or Infiniti's product planners to decide whether it will come to our shores.
jmrev
03-14-2005, 02:44 PM
the new GTR would be a complete wreck if they add a V8 engine to it...
driftmaster200
03-14-2005, 03:36 PM
Well I just heard it and in my opinion it will use a V6 twin turbo because it weighs less.
Skyline_BNR34
03-14-2005, 04:02 PM
If a V8 was put in it would be okay but they probaly won't beacause how high the gas prices are and if you knew how hight the prices are in Japan (I think it is around 5 bucks a gallon) they'll probaly stick with the twin turbo v6 and not even worry about the V8. It's a good car with the V6 and it dosen't need a V8. Then if they put a V8 in they would need to replace alot of the Drivetrain in order to handle the power and torque it wouldn't be very cost effective like the one guy said and they probaly won't do much to the motor but what should I say im not Nissan they could all suprise us with an optional V8. But if I was Nissan I would give the optional V8 to anyone who wanted it, but over in Japan no one would want the V* (most likely not) they want to rip apart their little I4 and build them up to be ricers and street racers without paying high insurance. (I'm not saying I4's suck because I said their little) If I bought a Skyline I would want the V6, better feul economy and a V8 would ruin the sound of them and it would feel like more of a muscle car, but it would make the handling a lot different than the lighter cars and probaly woudn'y be as fast but they probaly would. If I was Nissan I would keep the Twin turbo V6 and give the option of a Standard V8 or turbocharged V8 one of the two and thats what I think.
driftmaster200
03-14-2005, 04:20 PM
Here is a sketch of the new skyline
http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/500/232688Black_R35-med.jpg
http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/500/232688Black_R35-med.jpg
Skyline_BNR34
03-14-2005, 04:36 PM
Have any of you seen the concept GTR it looks ugly and thats what they said the new car was going to look likeglad it doesnt even though ive seen the sketch aready
nismo_power
03-14-2005, 06:29 PM
Here is a sketch of the new skyline
http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/500/232688Black_R35-med.jpg
that was is a very old concept photo, back when all those kids thought that it was going to be called the "r35". there have been some spy shots which are alot more practical and what the car is more along the lines going to look like. expect it to look severly similar to the v35 curreny in production with a few minor tweaks exterior wise. nissan has had a few test mules at nurburgring.
http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/500/232688Black_R35-med.jpg
that was is a very old concept photo, back when all those kids thought that it was going to be called the "r35". there have been some spy shots which are alot more practical and what the car is more along the lines going to look like. expect it to look severly similar to the v35 curreny in production with a few minor tweaks exterior wise. nissan has had a few test mules at nurburgring.
driftmaster200
03-14-2005, 06:43 PM
I'm hoping there going to give us an AWD version. I know that the skyline is known for its incredible handling because of its AWD, but nissan has had a history of screwing the us market (remember the 155BHP 240SX?).
nismo_power
03-14-2005, 06:51 PM
I'm hoping there going to give us an AWD version. I know that the skyline is known for its incredible handling because of its AWD, but nissan has had a history of screwing the us market (remember the 155BHP 240SX?).
it will be awd, and ive been hearing that they are going to bring back the attessa system. not a definate though, but a possibility. im sure the hicas system will also be present.
and unlike past cars, the Infiniti GT-R will be marketed worldwide, as ghosn said at the tokyo auto show.
it will be awd, and ive been hearing that they are going to bring back the attessa system. not a definate though, but a possibility. im sure the hicas system will also be present.
and unlike past cars, the Infiniti GT-R will be marketed worldwide, as ghosn said at the tokyo auto show.
driftmaster200
03-15-2005, 03:55 PM
The hicas will have to be in the GTR because the skyline isn't a low car like an rx7 or other cars in its class.
thegladhatter
03-15-2005, 06:17 PM
#1 HICAS is shit.
#2 Why is this thread here. There is NO 2007 Skyline in the US
#3 The sig you have there, Driftmaster...is the flat out ugliest Skyline I have EVER seen. It is SIN to do that to a GTR!
#2 Why is this thread here. There is NO 2007 Skyline in the US
#3 The sig you have there, Driftmaster...is the flat out ugliest Skyline I have EVER seen. It is SIN to do that to a GTR!
Dreamspawn
03-15-2005, 06:33 PM
HICAS is good unless u want to go drifting.
idk bout a 2007 skyline but the Ifiniti GTR 2007 will be world wide.
that would be the veil side skyline last i herd 1600Hp and 2nd on the fastest GTR list 346.2 km/h or 215.12mph.
idk bout a 2007 skyline but the Ifiniti GTR 2007 will be world wide.
that would be the veil side skyline last i herd 1600Hp and 2nd on the fastest GTR list 346.2 km/h or 215.12mph.
nismo_power
03-15-2005, 07:44 PM
1.) that isnt veilsides drag car
2.) a GT-R is shit for drifting because of not only hicas but all wheel drive.
IM IN A BAD FUCKING MOOD GOD DAMMIT THIS WHOLE FUCKIN SHIT. i need to sell my car. sorry. off topic.
2.) a GT-R is shit for drifting because of not only hicas but all wheel drive.
IM IN A BAD FUCKING MOOD GOD DAMMIT THIS WHOLE FUCKIN SHIT. i need to sell my car. sorry. off topic.
thegladhatter
03-15-2005, 07:55 PM
HICAS is good unless u want to go drifting.
idk bout a 2007 skyline but the Ifiniti GTR 2007 will be world wide.
that would be the veil side skyline last i herd 1600Hp and 2nd on the fastest GTR list 346.2 km/h or 215.12mph.
The Veilside Skyline LOOKS like shit regardless of how powerful it is.
HICAS is SHIT whether you drift or not. I would deactivate it immediately.
idk bout a 2007 skyline but the Ifiniti GTR 2007 will be world wide.
that would be the veil side skyline last i herd 1600Hp and 2nd on the fastest GTR list 346.2 km/h or 215.12mph.
The Veilside Skyline LOOKS like shit regardless of how powerful it is.
HICAS is SHIT whether you drift or not. I would deactivate it immediately.
driftmaster200
03-15-2005, 08:15 PM
fuck that buddy, awd and rear stear assist helps create cars that handle well and drive extremely well.
driftmaster200
03-15-2005, 08:17 PM
BTW, the veilside r34 makes 1300BHp, not 1600. But it does hold the fastest 5000cc street legal car in the world at 215 mph.
thegladhatter
03-15-2005, 09:44 PM
fuck that buddy, awd and rear stear assist helps create cars that handle well and drive extremely well.
You know this because you've driven one? HICAS is mega over rated.
BTW... 5000 cc?
You know this because you've driven one? HICAS is mega over rated.
BTW... 5000 cc?
nismo_power
03-16-2005, 03:45 AM
the veilside drag car, which is not in that picture, does have 1600 horses at the crank.
nisco
03-16-2005, 03:53 AM
now i know why i stopped coming into teh skyline threads....
its usually got some stupid punk ass know(s) it all posting stupid garbage...
and yes i know who knows what theyre talking about, and who doesnt have a clue...
...carry on
its usually got some stupid punk ass know(s) it all posting stupid garbage...
and yes i know who knows what theyre talking about, and who doesnt have a clue...
...carry on
VQuick
03-16-2005, 09:10 AM
Have any of you seen the concept GTR it looks ugly and thats what they said the new car was going to look likeglad it doesnt even though ive seen the sketch aready
The 2001 GT-R concept is only a concept. A second concept will be shown later this year at the Tokyo Motor Show. The production car will be closer to that.
I'm hoping there going to give us an AWD version. I know that the skyline is known for its incredible handling because of its AWD, but nissan has had a history of screwing the us market (remember the 155BHP 240SX?).
it will be awd, and ive been hearing that they are going to bring back the attessa system. not a definate though, but a possibility. im sure the hicas system will also be present.
and unlike past cars, the Infiniti GT-R will be marketed worldwide, as ghosn said at the tokyo auto show.
Keeping in true GT-R 'Tour de Force of Technology' fashion, the next GT-R might have the new e4wd system, already seen on the Cube and Tiida. The e4wd uses electric motors monted on the wheels instead of additional differentials and driveshafts. It should be lighter and more responsive. That would leave the GT-R as a primarily FR vehicle, but the e4wd will kick in occasionally to aid in handling and traction.
there have been some spy shots which are alot more practical and what the car is more along the lines going to look like. expect it to look severly similar to the v35 curreny in production with a few minor tweaks exterior wise. nissan has had a few test mules at nurburgring.
Don't forget that the V36 Skyline will be out before the GT-R, with a further revised(improved over the F50 Fuga) version of the FM platform. The GT-R should be based on that new FM variant. We don't know what the V36 will look like yet, so there's really no telling what the GT-R will be like. The new concept at this year's TMS should give us some idea.
The 2001 GT-R concept is only a concept. A second concept will be shown later this year at the Tokyo Motor Show. The production car will be closer to that.
I'm hoping there going to give us an AWD version. I know that the skyline is known for its incredible handling because of its AWD, but nissan has had a history of screwing the us market (remember the 155BHP 240SX?).
it will be awd, and ive been hearing that they are going to bring back the attessa system. not a definate though, but a possibility. im sure the hicas system will also be present.
and unlike past cars, the Infiniti GT-R will be marketed worldwide, as ghosn said at the tokyo auto show.
Keeping in true GT-R 'Tour de Force of Technology' fashion, the next GT-R might have the new e4wd system, already seen on the Cube and Tiida. The e4wd uses electric motors monted on the wheels instead of additional differentials and driveshafts. It should be lighter and more responsive. That would leave the GT-R as a primarily FR vehicle, but the e4wd will kick in occasionally to aid in handling and traction.
there have been some spy shots which are alot more practical and what the car is more along the lines going to look like. expect it to look severly similar to the v35 curreny in production with a few minor tweaks exterior wise. nissan has had a few test mules at nurburgring.
Don't forget that the V36 Skyline will be out before the GT-R, with a further revised(improved over the F50 Fuga) version of the FM platform. The GT-R should be based on that new FM variant. We don't know what the V36 will look like yet, so there's really no telling what the GT-R will be like. The new concept at this year's TMS should give us some idea.
nisco
03-16-2005, 09:10 PM
tt v8 m45 coupe......
VQuick
03-17-2005, 03:38 PM
The M45 Coupe should be another model altogether. Picture a bigger G35 Coupe, basically. It could have more sleek styling vs the M45 sedan, and a modest bump in power(360hp?). I think it would be a nice BMW 6-series competitor.
That will help the GT-R be free of heavy amenities and remain more of a hardcore sports car.
That will help the GT-R be free of heavy amenities and remain more of a hardcore sports car.
blight
03-18-2005, 09:57 AM
I thought you all would enjoy this link to auto math stuff. This is what kind of times the gtr might have with that estimated power to weight ratio. - Hey guys i vote twin turbo v6 even though i love v8s btw. i like the v35 concept myself- i just hope it looks different than the g35 or 350z that would just ruin it. and it better have those circle tail lights or i will be ticked. Quick as hell quater mile- whoot!
Front wheel drive
http://www.web-cars.com/cgi-bin/accel2.pl
rear wheel drive.... no awd guys sorry...
http://www.web-cars.com/cgi-bin/accel2.pl
Front wheel drive
http://www.web-cars.com/cgi-bin/accel2.pl
rear wheel drive.... no awd guys sorry...
http://www.web-cars.com/cgi-bin/accel2.pl
nismo_power
03-18-2005, 01:38 PM
the current v35 skyline is still using the "stove top" style taillamps, but you can only see them when illuminated.
VQuick
03-19-2005, 10:27 PM
Yeah, the CPV35 always had them, and the V35 just got them for '05. The new F50 Fuga(Infiniti M35/45) has them, too.
omega_girl_r34
03-31-2005, 02:20 AM
Shouldn't this be in teh new R35/R36/GTR thread?
:shakehead
you are on a skyline thread. that car is not a skyline. it's a nice car but you should post the pic on a thread that talks about your car.
oh and how can you listen to cradle of filth without getting a migraine?
if you want to talk about real rock, talk about ozzy osbourn. cradle is not rock, it's just a bunch of screaming. i could do that. :smokin:
:shakehead
you are on a skyline thread. that car is not a skyline. it's a nice car but you should post the pic on a thread that talks about your car.
oh and how can you listen to cradle of filth without getting a migraine?
if you want to talk about real rock, talk about ozzy osbourn. cradle is not rock, it's just a bunch of screaming. i could do that. :smokin:
2of9
03-31-2005, 01:41 PM
yo, just reading the 1st page and saw that the "new" skyline will be having over the 400 HP mark...? Here in the US, i could believe that but in Japan, they still have the 280 HP regulation dont they? Well...i would be very suprised if the brought back the RB motor series though.
Dreamspawn
03-31-2005, 02:01 PM
You mean 276hp? I thought that was just a agreement between manfactures to keep insurance down. Hell the a VR4 has 320hp the R34 is suppodivly dyno at 300-325hp.
"you are on a skyline thread. that car is not a skyline. it's a nice car but you should post the pic on a thread that talks about your car."
Talking bout my sig? alot of ppl have there cars in it. As for rock i do like ozzy to i think its a shame that this generation of tv has kinda took away alot of the Madman,Evil ozzy away from ppl now most ppl just know him as the guy who yells for sharon and studders. As for my commit on shouldn't this be in the other thred me and nismo were assuming that he is talking bout the new GTR which is seperate from the skyline now. One is a nissian the other is going to be a Ifiniti. I havn't herd much bout the next skyline i'm asumming they'll keep the V designation.
"you are on a skyline thread. that car is not a skyline. it's a nice car but you should post the pic on a thread that talks about your car."
Talking bout my sig? alot of ppl have there cars in it. As for rock i do like ozzy to i think its a shame that this generation of tv has kinda took away alot of the Madman,Evil ozzy away from ppl now most ppl just know him as the guy who yells for sharon and studders. As for my commit on shouldn't this be in the other thred me and nismo were assuming that he is talking bout the new GTR which is seperate from the skyline now. One is a nissian the other is going to be a Ifiniti. I havn't herd much bout the next skyline i'm asumming they'll keep the V designation.
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