Bugatti
Juliette2120
03-04-2005, 07:20 PM
Hello all! I have been frantically searching the web trying to determine if the Bugatti is considered an Italian car or a French car. I saw a thread that was posted on this site earlier where the discussion went back and forth. I know that the Bugatti's were born in Italy, but I believe they only ever produced the cars in France. Soooo, would that make it a French or Italian automobile? Thanks in advance!
993cc
03-27-2005, 03:50 PM
If you've read the thread you should be clear i think but here's the summary
Ettore Bugatti was Italian....
He went to France and made a factory there.....
All Bugattis were made in Molsheim, France until the mid-50s.....
Then, there's a gap of three decades.....
In the 80s another Italian, businessman Romano Artioli bought the rights to the marque and built a new factory in Modena, Italy where he produced the EB110....
That lasted until about the mid-90s (and about 130 cars) when the VW group bought the rights to the name after Artioli went bankrupt and a liquidation took place....
In the same liquidation German tuner house Dauer bought some tools and uncompleted chassis and produced about 5 more EB110's.... supposedly Dauer is the only place you can service an EB110 these days (not certain about that - just an assumption)....
Latest Veyron plant I believe is in Germany but it wouldn't make a difference even if it were in Molsheim since the car is 100% german now beyond any doubt....
So..... French, Italian or German any answer would be correct
:eek7:
Ettore Bugatti was Italian....
He went to France and made a factory there.....
All Bugattis were made in Molsheim, France until the mid-50s.....
Then, there's a gap of three decades.....
In the 80s another Italian, businessman Romano Artioli bought the rights to the marque and built a new factory in Modena, Italy where he produced the EB110....
That lasted until about the mid-90s (and about 130 cars) when the VW group bought the rights to the name after Artioli went bankrupt and a liquidation took place....
In the same liquidation German tuner house Dauer bought some tools and uncompleted chassis and produced about 5 more EB110's.... supposedly Dauer is the only place you can service an EB110 these days (not certain about that - just an assumption)....
Latest Veyron plant I believe is in Germany but it wouldn't make a difference even if it were in Molsheim since the car is 100% german now beyond any doubt....
So..... French, Italian or German any answer would be correct
:eek7:
skiff
03-29-2005, 04:00 AM
To make it even more complicated:
Ettore was born in Italy.
His first designs were built in Milan.
He moved to Germany to work for Deutz, and later Hermes.
He finally opened a factory in Molsheim, at that time German territory.
After the first world war, Molsheim became French, and this stayed that way.
This for the classical Bugatti's
Herman
www.bugattibuilder.com
Ettore was born in Italy.
His first designs were built in Milan.
He moved to Germany to work for Deutz, and later Hermes.
He finally opened a factory in Molsheim, at that time German territory.
After the first world war, Molsheim became French, and this stayed that way.
This for the classical Bugatti's
Herman
www.bugattibuilder.com
993cc
03-29-2005, 10:17 AM
..and yes I just realised that indeed the new Veyron factory is in Molsheim, France..... but like I said you can call the current car german... because it is.
PS I knew about Molsheim going back and forth between Germany and France but I didn't want to start a possible war in here! :biggrin:
PS I knew about Molsheim going back and forth between Germany and France but I didn't want to start a possible war in here! :biggrin:
skiff
03-30-2005, 05:26 AM
Funny thing is that according to sources he was very "France orientated" but opened a factory in Germany... I believe is was Mr. Mathis who found the property at the time. Should check, however.
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