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Converting AT to 6 speed MKIV


GT500916
03-04-2005, 05:54 PM
Is it hard to convert AT to 6speed? What parts would i need? How much might it cost?

Is there any links on this? Im looking at this AT and i think if i can get it for a good deal i might as well convert it to a 6 speed.

any advice?

flyinMKIV
03-04-2005, 06:06 PM
Why convert it. Yeah it's faster on top end when you get past about 170mph but what's the point?
You get a 6 spd and yes it is fun to drive but you actually have better performance out of a AT on the track and the street. Think about boost when your selecting what you want to do. Yes you can leave your foot to the floor and change gears but you have to be damn good at it. But everytime you let off the gas, you lose boost, where as in a AT you never have to let off the throttle so you don't lose your boost you already have built, and on top of that, you can spray a shot to it all day long in a race. So after reading this, are you sure you want a 6 spd?

If so, it's rather expensive and takes a lot of work to do, try looking on MKIV.com and see if it helps. Other than that, there's not much info I can give you at this moment. I'll look aroung though. Good luck.

beerock
03-04-2005, 11:27 PM
so your saying the auto is better then the 6 speed?

i dont know about you but i can shift from 3rd to 4th and 5th to 6th faster then a auto can.
i see your point with the turbo lag when shifting though!

flyinMKIV
03-04-2005, 11:46 PM
so you mean to tell me that you can shift faster than a computer, I think not. When you have to think about staying in the lane, how fast your going, how long you have to wait to shift, when to hit nitrous, and watching the road, you mean to tell me you can shift faster than a computer who's sole purpose is is to know when it needs to shift into another gear. I think you need to reconsider your last statement.

beerock
03-04-2005, 11:54 PM
In a 300zx with a auto turbo, compared to my 300zx twin turbo 5 speed. YES ive been in both.more then one occasion. i use to hold the gas to the floor and shift so fast my friends would be like holy shit, especially how the car jumped when I shifted it.
I understandthe f-1 cars and msot race cars have tip tronic trannies and theres no way im shifting faster then them. so obviously im not sayin all autos. but i drove a supra tt and i can shift just as quick as that auto. granted, i never shifted a supra yet. but, if it was a supra auto and i had my Z YES i can shift faster then that. Im not being some little prick either im being completely honest. if you got the chance to see me shift youd know why.

GT500916
03-05-2005, 02:39 AM
how about we just dont care wich is better, AT is better here Manual is better there, its cool, im not gonna live at the track 24/7 probably go like once a year if that... 6 speed is my final answer, i grew up driving manual cars, so for me its just the way to go unless its a luxury car...

anyhow... any idea?

beerock
03-05-2005, 11:10 AM
i feel you gt, im a stick boy when it comes to sports cars, my rx-7 was, my Z a couple jeeps.

flyinMKIV
03-05-2005, 02:53 PM
I have no arguement about which is better a manual or auto. All I'm saying is there's reasons why people ethier run powerglides, th400s and other types of auto trannys. You don't lose time or momentum as much using a auto because you don't have to waste time changing gears.

beerock
03-06-2005, 03:12 PM
I hear you flyinmk autos have there benfits but i would think for pure driving pleasure a stick would be the way to go.

do the autos shift when you redline them in a certain gear? you know like overide the gear your in and shift up?

GT500916
03-06-2005, 06:31 PM
yes you can manually shift autos, but nothing replaces enjoyment of a clutch, i mean sure sometimes clutch gets tiring and you want to just relax and just drive with auto for a while... but everytime i went to auto for a while i couldnt wait to go back to stick :) once you know how to drive stick good it makes the drive to work fun, instead of just relaxing...

twint88supra
03-08-2005, 04:50 PM
Think about boost when your selecting what you want to do. Yes you can leave your foot to the floor and change gears but you have to be damn good at it. But everytime you let off the gas, you lose boost, where as in a AT you never have to let off the throttle so you don't lose your boost you already have built,

lmao , are you serious?, you actually think for that fraction of a second when shifting a manual you loose enough boost pressure to be felt or even measured. Manuals are always better, unless your building a strictly drag car but most of us dont do that. plus with autos you always have to mash the pedal to even flirt with the redline and if your driving and wanna hold your turbos in their sweet spots it will shift on you, lol. Anyway if you already have $$ put into your auto supra then stick with the auto, unless youve got $$ like that. just remember if you do the swap yourself , you have the reverse light wiring to do, put a clutch in, run all clutch lines n mount mastercylinder somewhere, arc weld some mounts for manual tranny, weld mounts for shifter bracket, and some other minor stuff, oh and i think the ecu might be a little different. hope this helps a little, gl

flyinMKIV
03-08-2005, 10:37 PM
lol, now that's funny. I thought the whole reason you put performance parts on your car was because of... hold on, it's coming to me...oh yeah, the performance!!!

It simply boils down to this, every MKIV owner has they're car and they have one question, how can I make it faster. Having a auto at a track, on the street, is a better platform. That's why all of the high HP and fast track supras all run a th400 3 spd trannys, or a 2 spd powerglides, they don't run 6 spds.

I haven't yet and I never will argue about what's more fun, I drive a n/a auto supra everyday and I get a joy out of driving a 5 spd civic when I get the chance, manuals are fun. But when I want to get serious and go out and race, I open my garrage to my AUTO single turbo supra.

If you want to argue about this topic some more, go right ahead and talk to no one. I don't waste my time having someone who has never owned a MKIV supra or probably never driven one tell me what's better for my car.

youngsuprakid
03-22-2005, 12:35 PM
lol, now that's funny. I thought the whole reason you put performance parts on your car was because of... hold on, it's coming to me...oh yeah, the performance!!!

It simply boils down to this, every MKIV owner has they're car and they have one question, how can I make it faster. Having a auto at a track, on the street, is a better platform. That's why all of the high HP and fast track supras all run a th400 3 spd trannys, or a 2 spd powerglides, they don't run 6 spds.

I haven't yet and I never will argue about what's more fun, I drive a n/a auto supra everyday and I get a joy out of driving a 5 spd civic when I get the chance, manuals are fun. But when I want to get serious and go out and race, I open my garrage to my AUTO single turbo supra.

If you want to argue about this topic some more, go right ahead and talk to no one. I don't waste my time having someone who has never owned a MKIV supra or probably never driven one tell me what's better for my car.

how come my 5SPEED killed come prick who thought he auto supra could take my 5 speed supra of the same year and mods <my brother in law is the prick :rofl: and my car has more miles and he babys his

flyinMKIV
03-22-2005, 03:18 PM
hmm, considering you lose more power going through a auto tranny than you do in a manual would answer your question. I'll let you in on a little secret. When you slam through those gears that I know you probably do, your losing more boost than the prick you reffuring to. I'm not starting an arguement and this is getting to a pissing contest. If you enjoy manual tranny's that fine. But a 1000hp supra in a manual 6spd can run 9's with no problem when dialed in right. Put the same supra with a TH400 tranny or a powerglide and your running 8's or less. I'm not hear to tell you what better or what you should be running, I'm simply saying that if your in the game to be faster than your competition, you'll soon relize that changing out of that manual tranny will be smarter in the long run.

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